[Melee] Optimal Group Makeup (this time with sims) - Page 3

alienangel · 06/19/08, 8:58 PM

Originally Posted by zeusal

Every argument I see for Ret Pali in the melee group is for themselves to increase their DPS; is anyone else seeing this? My questions is for the actual melee dps group what is the best.

Late reply so this may be irrelevant at this point, but...

... the feral in the melee group may yield slightly higher DPS for the melee group yes, but isn't everyone more concerned about raid DPS than just increasing the DPS of the melee group? The ret pally gains massively from windfury, the feral gains nothing. Assuming all else the same that alone tips the raid DPS in favour of the ret pally being in the melee group instead of the feral.

The LotP healing is irrelevant in most encounters since melee will be spending a large amount of time in no danger of dropping dead due to a lack of heals. If anything, stick the feral in the hunter group (if one's present) to keep FI x2 up longer on everyone in the group, and let the pets get some free healing from LotP, since if healing is tight, I'm sure the melee DPS will be higher on healer's priority lists than pets.

seminarca · 06/19/08, 9:17 PM

I'd kindly advise everyone to read the thread in its entirety before posting.

Originally Posted by seminarca

This is a fairly old thread, and since then it has been discovered that the Rogue DPS spreadsheet greatly undervalued Windfury totem. The same sims run with that correction in mind would probably yield a far bigger difference. The optimal melee group at this stage in the game's lifetime is inarguably Arms/Enh/Rogue/Rogue with the fifth being Rogue or Ret Paladin depending on availability/gear/skill. Ferals are best put in the Hunter group or the tank group if your raid doesn't run with a Hunter group (which in my mind is a big mistake considering how well Hunters are doing at the moment).