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Old 10/15/09, 5:29 AM   #2501
 Astrylian
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Yes. Right click, Edit, Delete.

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Old 10/15/09, 5:56 AM   #2502
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Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.23

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Recent Changes:
v2.2.23.0
- Shift+Right-Click will now allow you to custom gem an item. This mirrors in-game functionality.
- Added a Lesser Flask of Resistance to default Buffs.
- Rawr.Cat: Updated default gemming templates. Fixed a bug with white miss rate at extremely high crit rates. Fixed a bug with Berserk uptime calculations.
- Rawr.Moonkin: Tier 10 Idol should now be properly modeled. Lunar Eclipse now properly caps at 100% crit.
- Rawr.Enhance: Smoothed out priority calculations. This module should now be faster, and more accurate.
- Rawr.ShadowPriest: 3.3 PTR Mode checkbox added in the options tab to model the SPriest changes in 3.3.
- Rawr.DPSWarr: Fixed a bug in uptime calculations with stacking special effects.
- Rawr.ProtWarr: You may now specify how often you are using heroic strike in the options panel. (Was previously just Limited/Unlimited) Average Vigilance threat and Base Boss attack values updated for Heroic TotC values.

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Old 10/15/09, 12:24 PM   #2503
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Baelgun
Astrylian undervalued the release in his Recent Changes for Moonkin, by the way. All Moonkin should dowload the 2.2.23 release; there were three important bugfixes that went in, in addition to the performance increases. First, and most importantly, I changed the DoT uptime calculations to match the options selection in WrathCalcs of "3.2 basic" and "Always Refresh". "Lunar Truncation" is still not modeled, but the important part is the "Always Refresh" modeling, because this fixes the common complaint that Rawr's DPS rotation selection doesn't match WC. They match now, although the numbers aren't exactly the same (still working on that). The other two bug fixes are the crit cap for Lunar Eclipse, and a subtle bug that caused Lunar Eclipse Starfires to double-dip from Imp Insect Swarm. All in all, this release should be much more reliable from a math standpoint for Moonkin.
 
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Old 10/15/09, 4:41 PM   #2504
Devloc
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Human Death Knight
 
Spinebreaker
Any chance you could post "patches" vs complete programs every update? I'm sure there's many redundant files within those twenty-something MBs that don't get touched very often. And you could always just attach a disclaimer - "If you don't know what you're doing, get the Full Version."

It takes precious minutes out of my day to download and update to the newest version! (Eh... the though just flashed through my head about how many precious minutes it takes YOU to update to the newest version... and now I feel somewhat silly.)
 
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Old 10/15/09, 4:43 PM   #2505
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"Patches" would be almost the same size as the full program download, there would be no point.

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Old 10/15/09, 4:56 PM   #2506
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Well, half the filesize comes from the images, which I imagine only change every so often around content patches.

But I don't develop Rawr, so I can't know how it works exactly. I just imagined smaller file sizes could work to everyone's benefit (i.e. bandwidth, as well).
 
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Old 10/15/09, 8:27 PM   #2507
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Yeah, images are largely the same, and we could indeed distribute a copy without images. That's pretty much it that wouldn't change though. It's just not worth it for us to do that though, as you guessed.

Rawr - A theorycrafting tool for Bears, Cats, Moonkin, Trees, Healadins, DPSWarrs, Retadins, Mages, ProtWarrs, Tankadins, HealingPriests, ShadowPriests, Warlocks, Rogues, EnhShams, Hunters, Elementals, RestoShams, Tank DKs, and DPS DKs!
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Old 10/15/09, 8:54 PM   #2508
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Elemental is back to showing a negative value for haste with 2.2.23. I'm not sure if others are experiencing this or not. My default armory right now shows a relative stat value for haste of -1.16. You can only imagine the upgrade list.

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Old 10/17/09, 10:43 PM   #2509
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Originally Posted by SoNoFu View Post
Elemental is back to showing a negative value for haste with 2.2.23. I'm not sure if others are experiencing this or not. My default armory right now shows a relative stat value for haste of -1.16. You can only imagine the upgrade list.
I just loaded your character into my copy of Rawr (latest) and it shows haste with a value over spell power in the relative stat values. Perhaps start over with a new file if you still have the issue.

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Old 10/24/09, 7:44 PM   #2510
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Rawr (v2.2.24 released on 10/24)

Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.24

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Recent Changes:
v2.2.24.0
- A debuff was added to represent the "Expose Weakness" debuff used in the ToTC Anub encounter.
- Rawr.Bear: Fixed a bug with Heroic Presense calculation.
- Rawr.Moonkin: DoTs now benefit from Nature's Grace
- Rawr.Enhance: User selected priority system implemnted. Added support for modeling Flame Shock.
- Rawr.Rogue: Many updated applied; this should fix a number of issues with trinkets and talents not being modeled correctly. Haste has been updated, Rawr also now assumes (if you have the talent) that you use Blade Flurry ever 120 seconds.
- Rawr.ProtWarr: Support added for boss dehaste abilities (ie: Thunder Clap, Imp. Icy Touch, etc)
- Rawr.Warlock: Added Glyph of Quick Decay. Fix for a crash when using a non-filler spell as the last spell in your rotation (DPS will be terrible, due to not having a filler, but at least won't crash when you're in the middle of swapping spells around in your rotation).

Rawr - A theorycrafting tool for Bears, Cats, Moonkin, Trees, Healadins, DPSWarrs, Retadins, Mages, ProtWarrs, Tankadins, HealingPriests, ShadowPriests, Warlocks, Rogues, EnhShams, Hunters, Elementals, RestoShams, Tank DKs, and DPS DKs!
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Old 10/25/09, 12:13 AM   #2511
Jothay
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Human Warrior
 
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Astry skipped the notes for DPSWarr but you can find them on the EJ DPSWarr thread (in the Warrior section) or you can view them in the Options pane inside the program.

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Old 10/25/09, 4:34 PM   #2512
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Uther
Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
- Rawr.Moonkin: DoTs now benefit from Nature's Grace
Not sure exactly what you mean by this other than maybe the GCD being lowered for them.
 
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Old 10/25/09, 4:43 PM   #2513
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That's correct.

Rawr - A theorycrafting tool for Bears, Cats, Moonkin, Trees, Healadins, DPSWarrs, Retadins, Mages, ProtWarrs, Tankadins, HealingPriests, ShadowPriests, Warlocks, Rogues, EnhShams, Hunters, Elementals, RestoShams, Tank DKs, and DPS DKs!
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Old 10/27/09, 7:50 PM   #2514
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Nice work on the Protadin module, it's looking pretty good. It does still think Berserking and Executioner are really good tanking enchants though, which is just strange.
 
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Old 10/28/09, 12:40 PM   #2515
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Originally Posted by Capstone View Post
Nice work on the Protadin module, it's looking pretty good. It does still think Berserking and Executioner are really good tanking enchants though, which is just strange.
Seeing Executioner good is strange, but Berserking is the best threat enchant (the default Prot config highly values threat), however it has the side effect of helping you die .

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Old 10/28/09, 3:29 PM   #2516
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I have threat set to zero in my profile, so that's not why it values it so highly.
 
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Old 10/28/09, 7:44 PM   #2517
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Tauren Warrior
 
Baelgun
Speaking of tanking enchants, I don't see Enchant Weapon - Blood Draining - Spell - World of Warcraft in the list of available enchants. Am I just missing it somewhere?
 
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Old 10/29/09, 1:26 AM   #2518
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Originally Posted by Capstone View Post
I have threat set to zero in my profile, so that's not why it values it so highly.
My Prot profile barely has a value for those two enchants (threat has a value of 0.05 for me), so maybe start over with a new profile. Mongoose is the best with 26 agility in second if you value survival the most.

Originally Posted by Sheltim View Post
Speaking of tanking enchants, I don't see Enchant Weapon - Blood Draining - Spell - World of Warcraft in the list of available enchants. Am I just missing it somewhere?
That is quite hard to model, since the enchant could do nothing if you don't have a Blood Draining buff up (it isn't always up) once you drop below 35%.

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Old 10/29/09, 5:12 AM   #2519
Munorion
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Night Elf Druid
 
Silvermoon (EU)
The optimizer just told me (Moonkin module) to equip two [Polished Dragonslayer's Signet] (the quest reward for Onyxia's head). Since I think you can only complete the quest once, this seems a bit off.

 
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Old 10/29/09, 10:33 AM   #2520
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Baelgun
Originally Posted by frmorrison View Post
That is quite hard to model, since the enchant could do nothing if you don't have a Blood Draining buff up (it isn't always up) once you drop below 35%.
Over in the Tanking enchant discussion there is some recent math on the various tanking enchants. I have no idea if it's enough to put Blood Draining into Rawr, but it would be nice to get it in there if possible.
 
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Old 10/29/09, 5:28 PM   #2521
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Originally Posted by Munorion View Post
The optimizer just told me (Moonkin module) to equip two [Polished Dragonslayer's Signet] (the quest reward for Onyxia's head). Since I think you can only complete the quest once, this seems a bit off.
Right-click the item and select Edit. Check the "Unique" box, third row down in the middle. That will stop the optimizer from using two of them, even though the item itself isn't actually unique.
 
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Old 10/30/09, 5:38 PM   #2522
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Tauren Druid
 
Balnazzar
Is there an easy way via the buffcache to simulate the Chill of the throne radiance effect and see what it does to itemization choices? I've been trying to use the <dodge> tag, but that gives me errors when loading.
 
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Old 10/30/09, 6:51 PM   #2523
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Well, Chill of the Throne'll be in next version.
Until then, current version of Rawr.Bear doesn't count plain Dodge as a relevant stat on buffs, so you'd have to add it as the equivalent amount of dodge rating:

  <Buff>
    <Name>Chill of the Throne</Name>
    <Group>Temporary Buffs</Group>
    <Stats>
      <DodgeRating>-905</DodgeRating>
    </Stats>
    <SetThreshold>0</SetThreshold>
    <Improvements />
    <IsCustom>true</IsCustom>
    <AllowedClasses>
      <CharacterClass>DeathKnight</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Druid</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Hunter</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Mage</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Paladin</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Priest</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Rogue</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Shaman</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Warlock</CharacterClass>
      <CharacterClass>Warrior</CharacterClass>
    </AllowedClasses>
    <ConflictingBuffs />
  </Buff>

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Old 10/31/09, 4:22 PM   #2524
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A small suggestion, any chance to add a checkbox for "Fully Buffed" that ticks/unticks all the regular buffs (ie everything but consumables/profession/temporary buffs)?
 
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Old 10/31/09, 4:23 PM   #2525
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There's a feature coming to allow saved buff sets, just like talent specs.

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