Rawr (v2.2.27 released on 11/9) - Page 93

Safo · 08/05/09, 9:05 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

2.2.11 was released with the latest Wowhead data at the time, which included the old JC gem data. I *believe* it has since been fixed, so just a refresh of data from Wowhead will fix it, but not positive. Regardless, you can always just change the color/stats yourself.

I can confirm this is the case. I was able to simply update the gem data from WoW Armory and they changed to the new gem versions perfectly.

Latas · 08/06/09, 5:25 AM

Seems the Mixology benefits have not been updated for 3.2. Also I'm curious why the moonkin module still has a setting for choosing which eclipse type since they no longer lock out each other.

One last thing, would it be possible to add a "Open in WoWarmory" option to the right click menu of items? I'm finding sometimes that wowhead doesn't always have the item when the wowarmory does.

Ugljesa · 08/06/09, 7:27 AM

Any news on the bear? Particularly interested in how the new Sanctuary buff affects the Agility/Stamina balance

edit: qq, just heard it doesn't stack with Kings, ah well, makes sense I guess but a man can dream

• Astrylian · 08/06/09, 7:28 AM

Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.12

Tour of Rawr Movie! - YouTube - Tour of Rawr

Recent Changes:
v2.2.12.0
- NOTE! Everyone, please do NOT reuse your GemmingTemplates.xml file from a previous version of Rawr, due to all the changes in gems in 3.2.
- Updated the default item cache with more 3.2 items, and updated data about existing items in 3.2. More data is still showing up on Wowhead/Armory daily, so be sure to try refreshing from Wowhead/Armory if you see any data that looks old/wrong. Also updated some of the enchants changed in 3.2.
- Rawr.Enhance: Fix for Orcs with Axes. Fixes for default gemming templates.
- Rawr.Hunter: Tons of more calculation improvements and fixes.
- Rawr.Mage: Reverted to 3.1 hot streak model, due to hotfix that was just applied.
- Rawr.DPSDK: Updated for 3.2.
- Rawr.Warlock: Some more calculation improvements to Haunt and Fire & Brimstone.

Latas · 08/07/09, 10:28 AM

Are there any plans to quickly release a new rawr with an update to the buffs to what they are in 3.2? It doesn't just seem to be the mixology buff that wasn't updated but things like inspiration and ancestral healing as well. Inspiration and ancestral healing are still listed as an armor multiplier in rawr when they should now be a flat damage reduction.

Also are there any plans to help deal with so many items being added because of the horde and alliance versions of each item having different names? Something like a filter on those items as horde or alliance would help greatly reduce the clutter.

dmacika · 08/07/09, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

The Furnace Stone, I'll take a look at; it's probably just not adding in BonusArmor after the procs are calculated. As far as procs for tanking, I do want random procs included, and optionally Use procs, but only for mitigation, not survival, since Survival means only reliable sources of damage reduction. I probably won't worry about the meager survival gain from agility procs, but I'll try to split out the survival from Armor or something.

Any update on this? I still don't see any increased value on trinkets with a bonus armor proc. Furnace Stone, Black Heart, etc.

foxglove · 08/07/09, 8:12 PM

Edit: I accidentally equipped a weapon with Executioner when I imported my profile, disregard ArP question.

• Astrylian · 08/08/09, 5:27 AM

There's alot of changes in 3.2, and we're working as fast as we can on them. I'm hoping for another release on Sunday or Monday, with even more enchant changes, special effects, and model changes.

googol · 08/08/09, 5:59 AM

What is rawr going to do to support the two t9 tier sets that have the same name, itemlevel 245 set and the itemlevel 258 set.

Looks like only 232 and 245 tier sets are showing up atm.

Thanks!

• frmorrison · 08/08/09, 10:24 AM

When modeling the new trinkets, Death's Choice (gives X Strength or Agility) isn't stacking with Darkmoon Card (gives 300 of highest stat) in Rawr, but they will on live.

Latas · 08/09/09, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by googol

What is rawr going to do to support the two t9 tier sets that have the same name, itemlevel 245 set and the itemlevel 258 set.

Looks like only 232 and 245 tier sets are showing up atm.

Thanks!

You can manually add the 258 t9 sets using the item numbers of each item.

Endoscient · 08/09/09, 7:47 AM

Originally Posted by frmorrison

When modeling the new trinkets, Death's Choice (gives X Strength or Agility) isn't stacking with Darkmoon Card (gives 300 of highest stat) in Rawr, but they will on live.

While it is definitely possible that they will stack on live, what makes you sure that they will?

janaka · 08/09/09, 9:41 AM

Is anyone still working on the ProtWarr model? Will it also get an update for 3.2?

• Astrylian · 08/09/09, 7:48 PM

Jothay's working on it, trying to get it updated, but it's not his normal model (and it seems to be quite a mess at the moment as well), so it's taking some time. Pretty sure there will be at least some updates in 2.2.13, which should be either late tonight, or late tomorrow night.

• frmorrison · 08/10/09, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Endoscient

While it is definitely possible that they will stack on live, what makes you sure that they will?

DM:G is 300 of your highest stat, while Death's Demise is X to either Strength or agility. I guess leave it not stacking until someone gets the trinket.

I found an oversight, under buffs the Wrath Flasks didn't get the new Mixology values added to it:
Endless Rage is 80 AP
Stoneblood is 650 HP
Pure Mojo is 20 mp5
Frost Wyrm is 47 spell power

• Astrylian · 08/12/09, 4:34 AM

Download - Rawr - Release: Rawr 2.2.13

Tour of Rawr Movie! - YouTube - Tour of Rawr

Recent Changes:
v2.2.13.0
- Adjusted base stats for shamans to match 3.2.
- Tweaks to CharacterProfiler import.
- Updated the stats of several more buffs and enchants to match 3.2.
- Rawr.Retribution: Fixed T9 set bonuses. Added Hand of Reckoning modeling. Added info about switching targets and SoV stacking. Adjustment to JoR procing 2x SoR, since that was hotfixed.
- Rawr.Hunter: Tons and tons of more improvements and additions.
- Rawr.Moonkin: Fixed T9 set bonuses.
- Rawr.TankDK: Added BurstTime and ReactionTime values. Fixes for expertise rating, and for parry rating on weapons. Added support for more trinkets and sigils.
- Rawr.Enhance: Fix for fist weapons in export to EnhSim. Added support for Totem of the Elemental Winds
- Rawr.DPSDK: Fixes for Night of the Dead, Greatness procs, and Unholy Blight damage.
- Rawr.DPSWarr: Updated base stats, talents, and glyphs for 3.2.
- Rawr.Healadin: Support for a few more trinkets and librams.
- Rawr.ProtWarr: Significant updates for 3.2.
- Rawr.Elemental: Further tweaks to how haste affects rotations.

SeanDamnit · 08/12/09, 12:11 PM

Astrylian,

I'm guessing from your signature that there is no longer an active Prot Pally developer...is there anyway for you or one of the other devs to update the module with the avoidance changes for 3.2? That should make it usable for now, so long as we don't pay attention to the threat numbers until SoV is modeled.

• Astrylian · 08/12/09, 2:54 PM

Someone's been submitting a few patches for ProtPally, but they haven't been folded into the main codebase yet. I'll take a stab at doing that for 2.2.14.

Oakenshield_Drenden · 08/13/09, 12:44 AM

Thank you for the continued outstanding work on this tool.

I've been playing around with the latest release including the newest prot warrior model and updated with the 3.2 epic gems. I was surprised to see that in the latest release that +20 Dodge gems now surpass the +30 Stam gems as optimal for my current gear set and spec. I believe this is the first time this has happened. (Yes, I know I still need to make avoidance and survival optimization choices, but historically Stam has won pretty much hands down).

How confident are folks in the new Prot warrior model - does it still need quite a bit of work or are do folks think this is pretty well set for 3.2? Would like to know before I make a gemming strategy shift.

• Astrylian · 08/13/09, 1:26 AM

ProtWarr is still in the middle of getting its 3.2 changes. Not confident yet.

debulla · 08/13/09, 7:54 AM

I think i found a bug regarding the "Enforce Meta-Gem Requirement" after optimizing my gear.

I startet with my normal gear, having equipped Guiding Star and Leviathan Fueling Manual in Main and Offhand. "Purified" gems are equipped in Collar of the Wyrmhunter and in the Spellslingers Slippers. Meta is the Chaotic Skyflare.

For my list containing the items considered for optimizing i chose as Mainhand "Illumination" (Staff, ILvl 245, 3 Sockets) and "Chalice of Benedictus" (ILvl 245, 1 Socket), besides some other options.

After optimizing, the Chalice was equipped and gemmed with a purified, but greyed out because of the equipped 2h-Illumination. The other purified was put into a different piece. Under normal circumstances the meta would be not activated, but rawr says otherwise.

nightlily · 08/13/09, 8:04 AM

• Astrylian · 08/13/09, 8:38 AM

Originally Posted by debulla

I think i found a bug regarding the "Enforce Meta-Gem Requirement" after optimizing my gear.

I startet with my normal gear, having equipped Guiding Star and Leviathan Fueling Manual in Main and Offhand. "Purified" gems are equipped in Collar of the Wyrmhunter and in the Spellslingers Slippers. Meta is the Chaotic Skyflare.

For my list containing the items considered for optimizing i chose as Mainhand "Illumination" (Staff, ILvl 245, 3 Sockets) and "Chalice of Benedictus" (ILvl 245, 1 Socket), besides some other options.

After optimizing, the Chalice was equipped and gemmed with a purified, but greyed out because of the equipped 2h-Illumination. The other purified was put into a different piece. Under normal circumstances the meta would be not activated, but rawr says otherwise.

Nice catch! Never had an offhand with a socket before now, so never noticed that. Gems in offhand items are counting toward the meta requirements (and probably gem uniqueness), even when they're disabled due to a 2H weapon in the MH. We'll see if we can get that fixed soon. Thanks!

hypetech · 08/13/09, 2:36 PM

I have a feature request. Would there be any way to add an option to remove the horde or alliance version of the identical items with different names? I would be more than happy to make two formatted lists of the item IDs, one for horde and one for ally, if that would make it possible. Just something that goes through a list of the alliance item IDs and removes the corresponding entry in the item cache if you're a horde player for example. I know some people play both horde and alliance, but then they could just not use the feature, or maintain two seperate installation folders, one for horde and one for alliance.

I dunno about you guys, but between items with different names having identical stats, and items with the same names having different stats, I just go crosseyed and start drooling when I look at my upgrade list. I know I could just go through and remove the alliance versions manually, since I'm horde, but then when I went to load upgrades from armory/wowhead when new gear is found they would just be replaced. With a feature like this, you could just update your item cache and/or load upgrades, then run this process to remove the items. If you decide you don't want them removed for some reason, just re-load upgrades from armory/wowhead.

I'm not much of a C# guy, but if there is anything else I can do to help a feature like this get put in, I'd be more than happy to do it.

• Astrylian · 08/13/09, 3:02 PM

Filters for horde vs alliance are coming, the data to support them just isn't there yet (and it needs to be parsed from Wowhead/Armory, not manually entered). We're working on it.