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Old 05/13/08, 10:25 AM   #76
Kursed
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Draenei Shaman
 
Blackhand
dude im new to this new forum thing. someone from my guild suggested i go here because its packed with information. I am just trying to figure the best way to gem a shaman. It does not take a genius to figure out a shaman needs to stack some crit in the beggining to become more mana effeicent, and the one stop elemental shop thread is so long i have no idea were it has information about 2.4 on it. if you were going to suggest on looking there.

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Old 05/13/08, 11:08 AM   #77
Daidalos
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Tauren Shaman
 
Korgath
Originally Posted by Kursed View Post
dude im new to this new forum thing. someone from my guild suggested i go here because its packed with information. I am just trying to figure the best way to gem a shaman. It does not take a genius to figure out a shaman needs to stack some crit in the beggining to become more mana effeicent, and the one stop elemental shop thread is so long i have no idea were it has information about 2.4 on it. if you were going to suggest on looking there.
Active refusal to accept good advice should be an instant bannable offense. There is a search button. Use it. There is also a "search this thread button" go to the one stop thread and use it.


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Old 05/13/08, 11:12 AM   #78
Kursed
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Blackhand
You need to calm you're self down good sir, i never said i was refusing good advice. forget what ever i asked im just going to go read every dam page on all the elemental forums on this site before i make myself look even more like a dumbass.

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Old 05/13/08, 12:17 PM   #79
Daidalos
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Korgath
You should also take the time to properly use punctuation, capitalization and the like. The mods here are pretty strict about that.


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Old 05/13/08, 4:32 PM   #80
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
There's even a TTT entry, which you'd know if you read the first post of the "One Stop Shop" thread.


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Old 05/16/08, 2:29 AM   #81
Graze
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Turalyon (EU)
How's the Beta 3 comming along?
Also, thanks for all your hard work, it's a great spreadsheat.

I'm a shaman, a conduit of the ancient forces of nature. A master of the elements, except fire, water or earth really... nor do I have any REAL control of nature. But I do hurl bolts of lightning!

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Old 05/16/08, 11:40 AM   #82
mecra
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Frostmane
Where can I get a new copy of this calc? I just recently went Elemental for raids so this would be an utterly useful tool. Thanks!

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Old 05/16/08, 11:50 AM   #83
Zene
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Skullcrusher
Originally Posted by mecra View Post
Where can I get a new copy of this calc? I just recently went Elemental for raids so this would be an utterly useful tool. Thanks!
Read the first post. I believe it's called "Linky"

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Old 05/18/08, 3:45 PM   #84
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
Getting a few more things added in.

Do we want drums of War (30 dmg) and Restoration (600 mana) included as well as Battle (80 haste)?


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Old 05/18/08, 5:38 PM   #85
Handyhoof
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Tauren Paladin
 
Lightbringer
Bink, in my opinion it's like adding the plethora of gems instead of the 3 everyone uses. You may as well make the choice available at the very least so people can see how different stats affect their dps and ttoom.

In the long run, adding them in will hopefully save some keystrokes answering the posts of "I didn't read, but what about using XXX instead of YYY."

On another note, you'd probably do best to add them now while you're still going strong instead of adding them and re-releasing at some point down the road if you decide they should be included.

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Old 05/18/08, 6:22 PM   #86
Binkenstein
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Then the other question is whether it's just select type, enter number, or defining the number of each used


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Old 05/18/08, 6:58 PM   #87
Handyhoof
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Lightbringer
Easiest and most powerful/accurate would be probably:

|B | R | W|
|0 | 0 | 0|

(Don't know how to do table code on the forums)

And just add the EP (etc) multiplied times the value in the box.

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Old 05/19/08, 8:45 PM   #88
Eleven
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Tauren Shaman
 
Zul'Jin
Originally Posted by Binkenstein View Post
Getting a few more things added in.

Do we want drums of War (30 dmg) and Restoration (600 mana) included as well as Battle (80 haste)?
I don't know how much people use the drums of war but the 25 mp5 for the drums of restoration is pretty nice, considering the few options you have when you're going to run oom

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Old 05/21/08, 3:35 AM   #89
desertswarm
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Daggerspine
After searching I saw no mention of the "Shattered Sun Pendant of Acumen" and I am not sure the spreadsheet models it correctly as it does not seem to factor in the proc effect.

I'll try some tests to see if I can come up with an approximate +dmg equivalent. (Aldor)

Last edited by desertswarm : 05/21/08 at 3:57 AM.

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Old 05/21/08, 7:06 AM   #90
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It's in the next version, which is currently with Moshne for testing calc changes (including heroism) and other updates.


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Old 05/21/08, 11:31 PM   #91
Usof
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Tauren Shaman
 
Kargath
Hey I didn't see this in the previous posts but is WoA included in the formula by default from talents if so the hit rating calculator may be a bit off. If not then you might want to consider adding it because I am about 3-4 % lower than i should be. Great work so far though guys thanks.

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Old 05/22/08, 2:26 AM   #92
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You mean ToW? It is taken into account.


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Old 05/22/08, 6:18 AM   #93
Usof
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Tauren Shaman
 
Kargath
Yeah sorry thats the one. My hit rating seems a little low though But maybe my math was off.

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Old 05/22/08, 5:15 PM   #94
kasouti
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Archimonde
I'm not sure if I'm just seeing it wrong, but slippers of the seacaller and naturewarden's treads seem to have 4 extra spell damage listed on them.

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Old 05/22/08, 9:19 PM   #95
Binkenstein
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Originally Posted by kasouti View Post
I'm not sure if I'm just seeing it wrong, but slippers of the seacaller and naturewarden's treads seem to have 4 extra spell damage listed on them.
I assume this is on the Feet tab?


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Old 05/23/08, 2:06 AM   #96
kasouti
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Archimonde
Yeah, sorry misread the seacaller they seem to be fine, but in the feet tab naturewarden is listed at 48 instead of 44 damage.

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Old 05/25/08, 10:32 PM   #97
Eleven
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Zul'Jin
is the time till oom box going to be making a return in this next release?

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Old 05/25/08, 11:33 PM   #98
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Khaz'goroth
Eventually. It is listed in the first post, so I would like to get those done before beta 3 goes out.

Getting Moshne to double check my heroism math, but we're both kinda busy atm.


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Old 05/27/08, 10:40 AM   #99
Zuathar
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Defias Brotherhood (EU)
1. Could you add somehow Improved Seal of the Crusader to the the selectable buffs/auras list?
2. The same question for the BG vendor epic gems.
3. And please add the spell crit food "Skullfish Soup" to the food list.

Thanks for your effort and keep it up.

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Old 05/27/08, 3:08 PM   #100
Binkenstein
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Originally Posted by Zuathar View Post
1. Could you add somehow Improved Seal of the Crusader to the the selectable buffs/auras list?
2. The same question for the BG vendor epic gems.
3. And please add the spell crit food "Skullfish Soup" to the food list.

Thanks for your effort and keep it up.
1 - should be easy to add
2 - pretty sure that's taken care of in beta3 (and no, you can't have it yet)
3 - already added, but not called skullfish soup (just "crit food")


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