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Old 08/09/08, 1:12 AM   #201
Macblade
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Draenei Shaman
 
Windrunner
so how does one compare a 3LB/1CL to a 4LB/1CL to a LB spam rotation? Is there a rotation sheet that lists dps for each?

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Old 08/09/08, 2:22 AM   #202
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
You use your brain?

This is an item spreadsheet after all. (nevermind the fact that you could just set Chain Lightning to 0 or 1)


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Old 08/13/08, 8:36 AM   #203
PhoenixVynna
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Lothar
Any chance the latest version of this can be made available? I recently had to switch mains and was hoping for some tools to loot whore my new raider appropriately.

Anyone have a post-beta version of this to download?

I found a 4.1.2 beta on another site; if I can't get a post-beta version... did anything change between 4.1.2 and release that would drastically change the DEP calculation, or should this be sufficient?
4.1.2 beta gave me a DEP of...
1 spell dam = 1.066 haste = 0.619 crit = 0.171 int
This has been giving me a pretty solid idea of what to gem, how to gem, what upgrades are actual upgrades...

If there's no response, I'll just continue using 4.1.2 for my DEP; it's served me well so far

Thanks for any help I can get on this, and thanks Bink for the spreadsheet!

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Old 08/13/08, 3:15 PM   #204
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
It is no longer available for download. I have ceased work on it.


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Old 08/14/08, 10:01 AM   #205
Ballam
Glass Joe
 
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Dragonblight
Originally Posted by Binkenstein View Post
It is no longer available for download. I have ceased work on it.
Ouch... totally understand though, these kinds of comparison tools are a PITA to keep up.

Have you found a solid replacement, web site or otherwise?

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Old 08/14/08, 10:25 AM   #206
PhoenixVynna
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Lothar
I know someone was working on a Rawr model, but the last I've heard of that was in March or so, and now the Rawr creator is looking for someone to help with it. If there's anyone who's good with programming and knows the shaman class in and out, the rawr console is pretty promising and looks fairly easy to use.

Thanks for putting your blood sweat and tears into this, Bink.

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Old 08/26/08, 8:33 AM   #207
Anthraax
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Alterac Mountains
To Bink:

Although I'm sad to see that SEIC is no longer being updated, I must thank you for all of the time you spent to make it what it into became. Truely a great piece of work.

I also consider myself very lucky that I found SEIC when I did. I happened accross it when my guild decided that I would be able to raid as Elemental full time as opposed to Resto unless we were heavy on Healers. Your SEIC gave me TONS of valuable information. I logged in recently to find it was discontinued, but at least I still have the last Beta.

Thanks again for your work and time spent. You deserve a Sunflare for it.

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Old 08/26/08, 5:14 PM   #208
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
Originally Posted by Cryonic View Post
Thanks again for your work and time spent. You deserve a Sunflare for it.
Try saying that to our mages (and our GM, who is also a mage )


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Old 08/26/08, 6:20 PM   #209
Anthraax
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Alterac Mountains
lol i noticed that when i was looking at your gear and guild list

Well anyways i'd love to talk to you sometime about Ele and theorycrafting sometime. It's always great to talk to people knowledgeable about thier class. But anyways, thanks again for the all the hard work. Definitely helped me to be a better shaman

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Old 08/26/08, 6:39 PM   #210
Binkenstein
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Khaz'goroth
btw, if you see "Binkenstein" running around the beta server Northrend, yes, that really is me.


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Old 08/29/08, 7:01 AM   #211
Anthraax
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Death Knight
 
Alterac Mountains
Sadly I haven't recieved a Beta invite and don't know anyone who wants to share. How is everything working out for you as Ele on the Beta? And what is the iLevel difference like as you level? replacing any of that T6 yet?

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Old 08/29/08, 7:21 AM   #212
Binkenstein
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See the blog. I'll have to write up more later on.


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