[Mage] A question about coefficients

Moshimoshi · 05/22/08, 12:50 PM

Do talents such as piercing ice and ice shards have an effect on +spell dmg coefficients? If so, how do they effect +spell dmg coefficients?

Do target debuffs such as misery and CoE have an effect on +spell dmg coefficients? If so, how do they effect +spell dmg coefficients?

Etherealz · 05/22/08, 12:52 PM

spell hit = (base+spelldmg*coef)*mult1*mult2*mult3

CoE / misery are considered multipliers

Cryic · 05/22/08, 12:56 PM

I believe the thread you are looking for is http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16781-mage_help_me_please/

Moshimoshi · 05/22/08, 2:05 PM

spell hit = (base+spelldmg*coef)*mult1*mult2*mult3

CoE / misery are considered multipliers

What do you base that on? Also, are piercing ice and arcic winds considered multipliers just like misery and CoE?

And I've already looked around, doubt this question has been asked before, and I'd very much like a definitive answer.

Muphrid · 05/22/08, 2:52 PM

To be honest, this is a question of semantics.

$\begin{align}E &= hq(m+rd)(1+bc) = \mbox{ average damage per cast} \\ h &= \mbox{ spell hit chance} \\ q &= \mbox{ damage multipliers} \\ m &= \mbox{ average base damage} \\ r &= \mbox{ +damage coefficient} \\ d &= \mbox{ +damage} \\ b &= \mbox{critical strike bonus (not multiplier)} \\c &= \mbox{crit chance} \end{align}$

Now, in this formula, you only want to use the original values for the coefficient. If you want to calculate the "net" coefficient, which represents the real increase in damage/cast from 1 point of +damage, then that number is...

$\mbox{"net coefficient"} = hq(1+bc)r$

I know Lhivera likes to use this measure a lot, but I'm not a fan of thinking in terms of net coefficients.

Moshimoshi · 05/22/08, 3:14 PM

Got another question, why does my frostbolt rank 13 tooltip display a 636-686 damage range? Specced 2/0/59, so if anything it should either display the base amount (597-647) or a 662-718 damage range. Anyone here able to explain this?

And muphrid, could you please post a thorough explaination of that formula for all of us that didn't choose math as our major?