Combat Ratings at level 80

Whitetooth · 07/30/08, 8:30 PM

Hello, I'm the author of RatingBuster and TankPoints, I've been able to derive most level 80 conversion rates and formulas in my beta testing, which should be useful for WotLK theorycrafting.

Avoidance stats now have diminishing returns
This includes:
1. Dodge from Dodge Rating, Defense, Agility.
2. Parry from Parry Rating, Defense.
3. Chance to be missed from Defense.
(Blue post)

The following is the result of hours of work gathering data from beta servers and then spending even more time running multiple regression analysis on the data.

1. DR for Dodge, Parry, Missed are calculated separately.
2. Base avoidances are not affected by DR, (Ex: Dodge from base Agility)
3. Death Knight's Parry from base Strength is affected by DR, base for parry is 5%.
4. Direct avoidance gains from talents and spells(ex: Evasion) are not affected by DR.
5. Indirect avoidance gains from talents and spells(ex: +Agility from Kings) are affected by DR
6. $c$ and $k$ values depend on class but does not change with level.

7. The DR formula:

$\frac{1}{x'} = \frac{1}{c}+\frac{k}{x}}$

$x'$ is the diminished stat before converting to IEEE754.
$x$ is the stat before diminishing returns.
$c$ is the cap of the stat, and changes with class.
$k$ is is a value that changes with class.

	$k$	$C_p$	$1/C_p$	$C_d$	$1/C_d$	Lv80 Dodge/Agi	Lv80 Agi/1%Dodge	Base Dodge
Warrior	0.9560	47.003525	0.021275	88.129021	0.011347	0.013600	73.52941176	3.463600
Paladin	0.9560	47.003525	0.021275	88.129021	0.011347	0.019200	52.08333333	3.268500
Hunter	0.9880	145.560408	0.006870	145.560408	0.006870	0.013300	75.18796992	-5.450000
Rogue	0.9880	145.560408	0.006870	145.560408	0.006870	0.024100	41.49377593	-0.590000
Priest	0.9530	0	0	150.375940	0.006650	0.019200	52.08333333	3.183000
Deathknight	0.9560	47.003525	0.021275	88.129021	0.011347	0.013600	73.52941176	3.463600
Shaman	0.9880	145.560408	0.006870	145.560408	0.006870	0.019200	52.08333333	1.675000
Mage	0.9530	0	0	150.375940	0.006650	0.019500	51.28205128	3.457500
Warlock	0.9530	0	0	150.375940	0.006650	0.019200	52.08333333	2.035000
Druid	0.9720	0	0	116.890707	0.008555	0.024000	41.66666667	4.951000

If you're interested in all the work thats been done to arrive at these results, everything is well documented in the following posts in this thread:
DR effect of avoidance stat observed, research begins
Defense data from build 8970
Cross testing with Defense, Dodge Rating and Parry Rating
Parry from Parry Rating and Defense
The DR formula, and Parry calculations
Dodge calculations
Druid dodge cap calculation
Level does not affect the cap
GetAgiPerDodge() algorithm

Lets do a quick example:

Level 60 warrior
Defense without any gear: 300
Dodge% without any gear: 7.0076994895935
Parry% without any gear: 5
Dodge rating: 0
Parry rating: 0
Agility without any gear: 83

Put on some gear which gives
+8 Defense
+24 Dodge Rating
+20 Parry Rating
+21 Agility

How much Dodge% and Parry% do I have now?

Solution:
For a level 60 Warrior
1 Defense = 0.04% Dodge + 0.04% Parry (the rest are not important for this problem)
12 Dodge Rating = 1% Dodge
15 Parry Rating = 1% Parry
1 Agility = 0.0427% Dodge

$Dodge=8*0.04+\frac{24}{12}+21*0.0427=3.2167$
$Parry=8*0.04+\frac{20}{15}=1.653333333$

$Dodge_{DR}=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{c_d}+\frac{0.956}{Dodge}}=3.241011307$
$Parry_{DR}=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{c_p}+\frac{0.956}{Parry}}=1.668054461$

Add the base values and we have:
Dodge = 10.2487108
Parry = 6.668054461

Answer: (These are the values taken in game)
Dodge = 10.248710632324
Parry = 6.6680541038513

Level 80 Combat Ratings and Stats

The following data are verified correct for build 3.0.3.9183 (12/2/2008).

Build 8962 changes:
1. Mana regen from Spirit nerfed at level 71 to 80, at level 80 the amount of regen is nerfed to about 78% of the original value.
2. Players lower then level 34 will now convert resilience ratings at the same rate as level 34 players.

Rating	Level 60	Level 70	Level 80
Expertise(-1% Dodge/Parry)	10	15.76923275	32.78998947
Defense Skill	1.5	2.365385056	4.918498039
Resilience	25	39.42308044	81.97497559
Dodge	12	18.92307854	39.34798813
Parry	15	23.65384674	49.18498611
Block	5	7.884614944	16.39499474
Hit	10	15.76923275	32.78998947
Spell Hit	8	12.61538506	26.23199272
Critical Strike	14	22.07692337	45.90598679
Spell Critical Strike	14	22.07692337	45.90598679
Haste	10	15.76923275	32.78998947
Spell Haste	10	15.76923275	32.78998947
Armor Penetration	4.69512177	7.40384579	15.39529991

NEW: Armor penetration rating, all items had the "ignore armor" stat converted to ArP rating with a conversion ratio of 7 ignore armor = 1 ArP rating.
At level 70, 7.4 ArP rating reduces enemy armor by up to 1%.

To derive the formula, I used haste data from level 70 to 100:

Level	Rating
70	15.76923275
71	16.96694183
72	18.25562477
73	19.6421833
74	21.13405418
75	22.73923683
76	24.46633911
77	26.32461739
78	28.32403564
79	30.47531509
80	32.78998947
81	35.2804718
82	37.9601059
83	40.84327316
84	43.9454155
85	47.28318024
86	50.87445068
87	54.73849106
88	58.89601517
89	63.36930847
90	68.18236542
91	73.36097717
92	78.93292236
93	84.92807007
94	91.37856293
95	98.31898499
96	105.7865524
97	113.8212967
98	122.4663086
99	131.7679138
100	141.776001

With the help of curve fitting tools and decimals to fractions algorithm:
Percentage = Rating / RatingBase / H
70 - 80: H = (82/52)*(131/63)^((level-70)/10)

And for reference, the values for level 1 to 70:
60 - 70: H = 82/(262-3*level)
10 - 60: H = (level-8)/52
1 - 10: H = 2/52

(RatingBase is the conversion at level 60)

Crit Per Agi	Level 70	Level 80
Warrior	0.0333	0.016
Paladin	0.0403	0.0192
Hunter	0.025	0.012
Rogue	0.025	0.012
Priest	0.0401	0.0192
Death Knight	0.0333	0.016
Shaman	0.025	0.012
Mage	0.0407	0.0196
Warlock	0.0412	0.0198
Druid	0.025	0.012

Agi required for 1% Crit	Level 70	Level 80
Warrior	30.03003003	62.5
Paladin	24.81389578	52.08333333
Hunter	40	83.33333333
Rogue	40	83.33333333
Priest	24.93765586	52.08333333
Death Knight	30.03003003	62.5
Shaman	40	83.33333333
Mage	24.57002457	51.02040816
Warlock	24.27184466	50.50505051
Druid	40	83.33333333

Full table for Crit Per Agi, precise formula yet to be found

Level	Warrior	Paladin	Hunter	Rogue	Priest	Death Knight	Shaman	Mage	Warlock	Druid
1	0.258700	0.216400	0.284000	0.447600	0.091200	0.258700	0.103900	0.077300	0.118900	0.126200
2	0.226400	0.216400	0.283400	0.429000	0.091200	0.226400	0.103900	0.077300	0.118900	0.126200
3	0.226400	0.216400	0.271100	0.411800	0.091200	0.226400	0.099000	0.077300	0.113200	0.120200
4	0.226400	0.192400	0.253000	0.381300	0.086800	0.226400	0.099000	0.073600	0.113200	0.120200
5	0.226400	0.192400	0.243000	0.367700	0.086800	0.226400	0.094500	0.073600	0.113200	0.114800
6	0.201200	0.192400	0.233700	0.355000	0.086800	0.201200	0.094500	0.073600	0.108100	0.114800
7	0.201200	0.192400	0.225100	0.332100	0.086800	0.201200	0.094500	0.073600	0.108100	0.109800
8	0.201200	0.173200	0.217100	0.321700	0.082900	0.201200	0.090300	0.073600	0.108100	0.109800
9	0.201200	0.173200	0.205100	0.312000	0.082900	0.201200	0.090300	0.073600	0.103400	0.105200
10	0.201200	0.173200	0.198400	0.294100	0.082900	0.201200	0.086600	0.070300	0.103400	0.097100
11	0.181100	0.173200	0.184800	0.264000	0.082900	0.181100	0.086600	0.070300	0.099100	0.093500
12	0.181100	0.173200	0.167000	0.239400	0.079300	0.181100	0.083100	0.070300	0.099100	0.093500
13	0.164600	0.157400	0.154700	0.214500	0.079300	0.164600	0.083100	0.070300	0.099100	0.090200
14	0.164600	0.157400	0.144100	0.198000	0.079300	0.164600	0.079900	0.070300	0.095900	0.090200
15	0.150900	0.144300	0.133000	0.177500	0.079300	0.150900	0.077000	0.067200	0.094400	0.084200
16	0.150900	0.144300	0.126700	0.166000	0.076000	0.150900	0.074200	0.067200	0.092800	0.084200
17	0.150900	0.144300	0.119400	0.156000	0.076000	0.150900	0.074200	0.067200	0.091400	0.081400
18	0.139300	0.133200	0.111700	0.145000	0.076000	0.139300	0.071700	0.067200	0.089900	0.078900
19	0.139300	0.133200	0.106000	0.135500	0.072900	0.139300	0.071700	0.067200	0.088500	0.078900
20	0.129300	0.123700	0.099800	0.127100	0.072900	0.129300	0.067000	0.064400	0.087100	0.070100
21	0.129300	0.123700	0.096200	0.119700	0.072900	0.129300	0.067000	0.064400	0.085700	0.070100
22	0.129300	0.123700	0.091000	0.114400	0.072900	0.129300	0.064900	0.064400	0.084400	0.068200
23	0.120700	0.115400	0.087200	0.108400	0.070100	0.120700	0.064900	0.064400	0.083100	0.066400
24	0.113200	0.108200	0.082900	0.104000	0.070100	0.113200	0.063000	0.061800	0.081800	0.066400
25	0.113200	0.108200	0.079700	0.098000	0.070100	0.113200	0.061100	0.061800	0.080500	0.063100
26	0.106500	0.108200	0.076700	0.093600	0.067500	0.106500	0.059400	0.061800	0.079200	0.063100
27	0.106500	0.101900	0.073400	0.090300	0.067500	0.106500	0.059400	0.061800	0.078000	0.061600
28	0.100600	0.101900	0.070900	0.086500	0.067500	0.100600	0.057700	0.061800	0.076800	0.060100
29	0.100600	0.096200	0.068000	0.083000	0.065100	0.100600	0.057700	0.059500	0.075600	0.060100
30	0.095300	0.096200	0.065400	0.079200	0.065100	0.095300	0.054700	0.059500	0.074500	0.054900
31	0.095300	0.091100	0.063700	0.076800	0.065100	0.095300	0.054700	0.059500	0.073300	0.053700
32	0.090500	0.091100	0.061400	0.074100	0.062900	0.090500	0.053300	0.059500	0.072200	0.053700
33	0.090500	0.086600	0.059200	0.071500	0.062900	0.090500	0.052000	0.057300	0.071100	0.052600
34	0.086200	0.086600	0.057500	0.069100	0.062900	0.086200	0.052000	0.057300	0.070000	0.051500
35	0.086200	0.082500	0.055600	0.066400	0.060800	0.086200	0.049500	0.057300	0.069000	0.050500
36	0.082300	0.082500	0.054100	0.064300	0.060800	0.082300	0.048300	0.055200	0.067900	0.049500
37	0.082300	0.082500	0.052400	0.062800	0.060800	0.082300	0.048300	0.055200	0.066900	0.048500
38	0.078700	0.078700	0.050800	0.060900	0.058800	0.078700	0.047200	0.055200	0.065900	0.048500
39	0.078700	0.078700	0.049300	0.059200	0.058800	0.078700	0.047200	0.055200	0.064900	0.047600
40	0.075500	0.075300	0.048100	0.057200	0.058800	0.075500	0.045200	0.053300	0.063900	0.044300
41	0.072400	0.075300	0.047000	0.055600	0.057000	0.072400	0.044200	0.053300	0.063000	0.043500
42	0.072400	0.075300	0.045700	0.054200	0.057000	0.072400	0.044200	0.053300	0.062000	0.043500
43	0.069600	0.072100	0.044400	0.052800	0.055300	0.069600	0.043300	0.053300	0.061100	0.042800
44	0.069600	0.069300	0.043300	0.051200	0.055300	0.069600	0.042400	0.051500	0.060200	0.042100
45	0.067100	0.069300	0.042100	0.049700	0.055300	0.067100	0.041600	0.051500	0.059300	0.040700
46	0.067100	0.066600	0.041300	0.048600	0.053600	0.067100	0.040700	0.051500	0.058400	0.040100
47	0.064700	0.066600	0.040200	0.047400	0.053600	0.064700	0.040000	0.049900	0.057600	0.040100
48	0.062400	0.064100	0.039100	0.046400	0.052100	0.062400	0.039200	0.049900	0.056700	0.039400
49	0.062400	0.064100	0.038200	0.045400	0.052100	0.062400	0.039200	0.049900	0.055900	0.038800
50	0.060400	0.061800	0.037300	0.044000	0.052100	0.060400	0.037800	0.048300	0.055100	0.036600
51	0.060400	0.059700	0.036600	0.043100	0.050700	0.060400	0.037100	0.048300	0.054300	0.036100
52	0.058400	0.059700	0.035800	0.042200	0.050700	0.058400	0.036500	0.048300	0.053500	0.035600
53	0.056600	0.057700	0.035000	0.041200	0.049300	0.056600	0.036500	0.046800	0.052700	0.035100
54	0.056600	0.057700	0.034100	0.040400	0.049300	0.056600	0.035800	0.046800	0.051900	0.035100
55	0.054900	0.055900	0.033400	0.039400	0.048000	0.054900	0.034600	0.046800	0.051200	0.034100
56	0.054900	0.055900	0.032800	0.038600	0.048000	0.054900	0.034100	0.045500	0.050400	0.033700
57	0.053300	0.054100	0.032100	0.037800	0.046800	0.053300	0.033500	0.045500	0.049700	0.033200
58	0.051700	0.052500	0.031400	0.037000	0.046800	0.051700	0.033500	0.045500	0.049000	0.032800
59	0.051700	0.052500	0.030700	0.036400	0.045600	0.051700	0.033000	0.044200	0.048300	0.032400
60	0.050300	0.050900	0.030100	0.035500	0.045600	0.050300	0.032000	0.044200	0.047600	0.030800
61	0.047700	0.049500	0.029700	0.033400	0.044500	0.047700	0.031000	0.044200	0.046900	0.029900
62	0.045300	0.048100	0.029000	0.032200	0.044600	0.045300	0.030400	0.044200	0.046200	0.029500
63	0.043100	0.046800	0.028400	0.030700	0.044300	0.043100	0.029400	0.042900	0.045500	0.028500
64	0.042100	0.045600	0.027900	0.029600	0.043400	0.042100	0.028500	0.042900	0.044900	0.027900
65	0.040200	0.044400	0.027300	0.028600	0.042700	0.040200	0.028100	0.042900	0.044200	0.027400
66	0.038500	0.044400	0.027000	0.027600	0.042100	0.038500	0.027300	0.041800	0.043600	0.026900
67	0.037000	0.042200	0.026400	0.026800	0.041500	0.037000	0.026700	0.041800	0.043000	0.026500
68	0.035500	0.042200	0.025900	0.026200	0.041300	0.035500	0.026100	0.041800	0.042400	0.025800
69	0.034200	0.041200	0.025400	0.025600	0.041200	0.034200	0.025500	0.040700	0.041800	0.025400
70	0.033500	0.040300	0.025000	0.025000	0.040100	0.033500	0.025000	0.040700	0.041200	0.025000
71	0.031200	0.036800	0.023200	0.023200	0.037200	0.031200	0.023200	0.037700	0.038400	0.023200
72	0.028700	0.034600	0.021600	0.021600	0.034400	0.028700	0.021600	0.035100	0.035500	0.021600
73	0.026600	0.032100	0.020100	0.020100	0.032000	0.026600	0.020100	0.032900	0.033000	0.020100
74	0.024800	0.029900	0.018700	0.018700	0.029900	0.024800	0.018700	0.030300	0.030900	0.018700
75	0.023200	0.027500	0.017300	0.017300	0.027600	0.023200	0.017300	0.028100	0.028700	0.017300
76	0.021600	0.025800	0.016100	0.016100	0.025700	0.021600	0.016100	0.026200	0.026400	0.016100
77	0.019900	0.024000	0.015000	0.015000	0.024000	0.019900	0.015000	0.024200	0.024500	0.015000
78	0.018500	0.022200	0.013900	0.013900	0.022200	0.018500	0.013900	0.022700	0.022900	0.013900
79	0.017200	0.020600	0.012900	0.012900	0.020700	0.017200	0.012900	0.020900	0.021200	0.012900
80	0.016000	0.019200	0.012000	0.012000	0.019200	0.016000	0.012000	0.019600	0.019800	0.012000

Spell Crit Per Int is the same for all classes over level 70 (even for warlocks)

Level	Spell Crit Per Int	Int required for 1% Spell Crit
70	0.0125	80
71	0.0116	86.2068944
72	0.0108	92.59259244
73	0.0101	99.00990313
74	0.0093	107.526879
75	0.0087	114.9425283
76	0.0081	123.4567927
77	0.0075	133.333327
78	0.007	142.857139
79	0.0065	153.8461534
80	0.006	166.6666709

ManaRegen(SPI, INT, LEVEL) = (0.001+SPI*BASE_REGEN[LEVEL]*(INT^0.5))*5

	Level 70	Level 80
BASE_REGEN	0.009327	0.005575

Level	BASE_REGEN	Level	BASE_REGEN	Level	BASE_REGEN	Level	BASE_REGEN
1	0.034965001	21	0.019733001	41	0.013724	61	0.010701
2	0.034191001	22	0.019156	42	0.013522	62	0.010523
3	0.033465002	23	0.018819001	43	0.013363	63	0.010291
4	0.032527	24	0.018316999	44	0.013176	64	0.01012
5	0.031661	25	0.017936001	45	0.012996	65	0.009969
6	0.031076999	26	0.017577	46	0.012854	66	0.009808
7	0.030523	27	0.017201001	47	0.012687	67	0.009652
8	0.029995	28	0.016919	48	0.01254	68	0.009553
9	0.029307	29	0.016581999	49	0.012384	69	0.009446
10	0.028662	30	0.016233999	50	0.012233	70	0.009327
11	0.027585	31	0.015995	51	0.012114	71	0.008859
12	0.026215	32	0.015707999	52	0.011973	72	0.008415
13	0.025381001	33	0.015464	53	0.01186	73	0.007993
14	0.024301	34	0.015204	54	0.011715	74	0.007592
15	0.023345999	35	0.014957	55	0.011576	75	0.007211
16	0.022748999	36	0.014745	56	0.011473	76	0.006849
17	0.021958999	37	0.014496	57	0.011342	77	0.006506
18	0.021387	38	0.014302	58	0.011245	78	0.006179
19	0.020791	39	0.014095	59	0.011111	79	0.005869
20	0.020121001	40	0.013896	60	0.011	80	0.005575

Roywyn · 07/30/08, 8:54 PM

Thanks a lot!

Seems they made the rating curve even steeper, it used to be an exponential with base 101/52 instead of 131/36 from 70 to 80 in Vulajin's alpha test.

Not sure how you extract data from the client, but is it possible to extract data for agi(int) => (spell)crit and the spirit regeneration ( = levelfactor * sqrt(int) * spi) from it as well?

Whitetooth · 07/30/08, 9:02 PM

Originally Posted by Roywyn

Thanks a lot!

Seems they made the rating curve even steeper, it used to be an exponential with base 101/52 instead of 131/36 from 70 to 80 in Vulajin's alpha test.

Not sure how you extract data from the client, but is it possible to extract data for agi(int) => (spell)crit and the spirit regeneration ( = levelfactor * sqrt(int) * spi) from it as well?

Yes, its possible to extract those data as well.
In fact, RatingBuster's stat breakdown feature was made possible by coding the data in it.

Roywyn · 07/31/08, 4:34 AM

Originally Posted by Whitetooth

Yes, its possible to extract those data as well.
In fact, RatingBuster's stat breakdown feature was made possible by coding the data in it.

Well, could you give us those numbers too? Or don't you simply have the data yet?

The level 80 values for int=>crit (this was the same for all classes at 70), the spirit-regen multiplier (unified), and the agi=>dodge/crit multipliers for War/Pal/DK/Hun/Sha/Rog/Dru is what people are interested in I thnk.

[Edit]: Thanks a ton! So it's a flat 131/63 multiplier of level 70 values on everything but mana regen, makes things easier to project

Whitetooth · 07/31/08, 5:20 AM

Originally Posted by Roywyn

Well, could you give us those numbers too? Or don't you simply have the data yet?

The level 80 values for int=>crit (this was the same for all classes at 70), the spirit-regen multiplier (unified), and the agi=>dodge/crit multipliers for War/Pal/DK/Hun/Sha/Rog/Dru is what people are interested in I thnk.

Sure, first post is updated with the data.

Zurgat · 07/31/08, 5:20 AM

Originally Posted by Whitetooth

Hello, I'm the author of RatingBuster. Although I'm still waiting for my beta key, I've been able to derive the level 80 conversion rates and the formula from the client.

Note that the following data are only verified correct for build 3.0.1.8681 (7/27/08), and may change during beta testing.

Excellent work, I was scouting around for this data, but feared we'd have to wait for the beta to unlock lvl 80.
I've just added a linkback to this post for now.
Is there an official site for Rating Buster, other than the addon download sites?

As Roywyn stated, the agility > crit conversions would be a great help.
For example to expand the http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t19926-r...s_spreadsheet/
Edit: Seems you managed to hit reply a few seconds before me.

This also means we can update the article at Combat rating system - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft soon.
Unless somebody beats me to it, I'll have a look at inserting those values later this week.

Whitetooth · 07/31/08, 5:35 AM

Originally Posted by Zurgat

Is there an official site for Rating Buster, other than the addon download sites?

Nope, I haven't bothered to set one up yet :p

Densor · 07/31/08, 5:42 AM

Those numbers look awful. Everything took such a huge hit in effectiveness, compared to the change from 60 to 70.

Also Whitetooth, your value for Spell Crit per Int at level 80 in your first post is off by a factor of 100, I believe. 0.00006 crit per int doesn't coincide with 166.66 int per crit.

BFG · 07/31/08, 5:43 AM

Hmm... so ratings roughly double? Don't you think that raw stats will have to keep up with ratings (say, agi and crit rating) and will double too? And with lvl 80 epics we'll see tanks with 3000 stamina? Melee with 6-8k AP?

Whitetooth · 07/31/08, 5:50 AM

Originally Posted by Densor

Also Whitetooth, your value for Spell Crit per Int at level 80 in your first post is off by a factor of 100, I believe. 0.00006 crit per int doesn't coincide with 166.66 int per crit.

Fixed, thank you

Akka · 07/31/08, 6:01 AM

God, Blizzard sure entered in full Monty Haul mode.
It's bordering ridiculous how much stats hit a brick wall in efficiency, number inflation will be huge.

Oh, and grats for your add-on, pal, this is one of the rare real "must-have" in the game

Prinsesa · 07/31/08, 6:05 AM

Originally Posted by BFG

Hmm... so ratings roughly double? Don't you think that raw stats will have to keep up with ratings (say, agi and crit rating) and will double too? And with lvl 80 epics we'll see tanks with 3000 stamina? Melee with 6-8k AP?

I'm not sure of the sources (only read about it on the Warlock WOTLK thread), but apparently the spell hit cap has been reduced to 9%, from 16%, and the 1% unremovable miss rate has been abolished as well.

I don't know about melee/ranged hit, but then we're going to see more hit affecting abilities (Winter's Grasp, Elemental Oath, Improved Faerie Fire, etc.)

It did concern me though that 660 Defense Rating was still not enough to hit 5.6% crit reduction for tanks. That was with the highest defense items Wowhead has datamined, double def trinkets and all def enchants everywhere, including Vindicator's Armor Kits.

Akka · 07/31/08, 6:10 AM

Originally Posted by Prinsesa

I'm not sure of the sources (only read about it on the Warlock WOTLK thread), but apparently the spell hit cap has been reduced to 9%, from 16%, and the 1% unremovable miss rate has been abolished as well.

I don't know about melee/ranged hit, but then we're going to see more hit affecting abilities (Winter's Grasp, Elemental Oath, Improved Faerie Fire, etc.)

It probably simply is the effect of the uniformization trend, bringing together most of the stats.
With hit and crit rating being applicable to both magic and mélée, it's somehow logical that magic and mélée now share the same hit cap.

I hope this simplification will not make the game blander, but I see the logic behind in any case, and I think nobody will miss the unremovable 1 % resist.

Zurgat · 07/31/08, 6:34 AM

Originally Posted by Akka

Oh, and grats for your add-on, pal, this is one of the rare real "must-have" in the game

Which sort of makes me wonder when blizzard will implement his addon as a default interface, as they have done in the past with many other "must haves". Even a threat meter is in the works.

◊ Lactose · 07/31/08, 6:42 AM

In your Agi required for 1% crit table, you've got Hunter listed 4 times.
You're missing the following:
Rogue - 40 - 83.33333333
Shaman - 40 - 83.33333333
Druid - 83.33333333

Numbers derived from your Crit Pet Agi table.
Looks like you just need to rename 3 of the Hunter labels.

Akka · 07/31/08, 7:21 AM

One thing that worry me, though : with such a steep decrease in stat effectiveness for each level gained, the levelling phase is about to see a c