Originally Posted by PSGarak
I hope their DPS is as off-the-hook as their talents look right now, because if their tanking and utility is strictly worse than kitty-feral they're a wee bit hosed. The point is that different classes bring different things to the raid, not that some simply bring less than others without compensation. As it stand the only thing of note a warrior would bring over a feral is Sunder, which is replaceable by EA albeit at a non-trivial cost.
(Note: I'm not saying zomg nerf ferals buff wars, I'm saying these are the considerations that I would like voiced and taken into account when blizzard moves from their rough draft to their next polish pass)
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DPS warriors don't need to have off-the-hook dps, just dps better than a feral druid. Which shouldn't be hard, dps warriors have always scaled better than feral druid dps. And EA is a lot more than a "non-trivial" cost, if a rogue were to keep a 5 point EA up, he would almost NEVER be able to use rupture. Maybe twice a minute, at most (EA is a 30 second buff last I checked).
That being said, I just hope my hypothetical wrath 10 man group gets all the buffs we can. :P At least the spellcasting ones, screw melee.
My main will be a warlock, and personally at the moment I think they're going to seriously redo warlock utility in the next pass over the class (should be happening this week or next). What does a destro give? Imp's HP buff (not gonna have 2 warriors or 1 warrior 1 ret pally anywhere in melee?) and CoE (which can be covered by TWO other classes, 3% more in the case of a moonkin). Other than that, you're down to class specific buffs, like healthstones, soulstone. Demo has that 10% spellpower boost talent or whatever (I lose track of what they've changed that thing to these days), and Aff has, um, the Fel Hunter Int/Spr buff, +3% on CoE, and...... um?
(Oh yea, CoWeakness and CoReck, not major buffs to be honest, not compared to CoE.)
Compared to something like mages, giving 10% spell crit, the only class to do so at the moment. Oh, and Moonkins, which give Spell Crit, Spell Haste, Spell Hit, +13% spell damage, a CoR debuff (faerie fire, at the same time as their "CoE").... christ is there anything they DON'T give (and -2% boss hit, though they'll probably glyph that out)?
Originally Posted by sp00n
It's not that it's not allowed or such, the image will just be removed by Imageshack in no time due to the heavy bandwidth.  |
imageshack bandwidth > elitist jerks traffic in my opinion. IS is a big site. Especially for 1 image in a non-class specific thread in class mechanics.
08/31/08, 10:53 PM
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