I don't use comparative values to calculate dps. The DEP values I calculate are there just to make pawn addon more accurate for the people that choose to use it. I could care less about matching the DEP values on the WoW forums.

I could care less about matching them as well. They seem to work well as a rule of thumb in my testing. Here is the scale from the spreadsheet.

(Pawn: v1: "DEP(buffed)": Agility=0.32, Strength=0.47, Ap=0.24, HitRating=0.34, CritRating = 0.47, MetaSocket=5.66, RedSocket=3.77, BlueSocket=0, YellowSocket=3.79)

Now, STR and crit-rating are scoring the same in relative value which is interesting and unexpected. The reason I've become addicted to scales is because adding/removing items from my own copies of different spreadsheets has become tedious and I've gotten to the point where a scale can pretty accurately answer "which item is better" without having to get into advanced modeling.

Also:
Strength=0.47, Ap=0.24

Rounding error?

Yep. If the precision matters to you, Format->Cells to show more.

Can anyone share their knowledge on useful macros?
I'm looking for DPS, tanking, PVP, PVE macros.
I'll really appreciate it if anyone can teach me some useful macros or guide me to a right direction. Thanks alot guys.

http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro

Hope this helps

In generell i find the most usefull macro a /castsequence a, b, c, c, a, and so on
Provided uyou are using instant attacks. If you want to include Heroic strike its a bit tricky due to flurry or other haste effects.

As for tanking Macros. Before 2.0 i used to have macro like
/cast shieldblock
/cast revenge
/cast shieldslam
/cast sunder armor --- and so on.
This doesn't work anymore, but it was really usefull because you where able to implement a priority in your macro.

I guess the only way now would be like /castrandom but herein lies the tragedy it is not very usefull regarding TPS.

This is not correct. I thought the same at one time, but I realized it was an error in my calculations. I have not had time to review your formula, but I suspect you have made a similar error. Please review your rage gen formulas to consider this possible inaccuracy.

Incorrect. You can enable circular references in open office in the options.

Hey guy,
Can any give me a quick post on "how to tank as a fury warrior?"
And what is the best threat generating skill for fury warriors?
Is it: Heroic strike > Revenge > Sunder ?
What is the best(quickest) way to generate threats as a fury warrior?
Thanks alot

You ought to have a look into "Kencos Threat Guide" in this forum.
There you can find a list for warriors how much hate you can generate with each specific skill and how they work.

In generell the threat genreation for a fury warrior is not that different to a protection warrior.
Use revenge as soon as the cooldown is ready - it is probably your skill with the highest amount of threat generated. Use Shieldblock not only for avoiding crushings but to "force" revenge becoming active. Use sunder armor at the beginning for fast and rage efficient threat generation and later only to refresh the debuff and switch to Heroic Strike.

I tend to use Heroic Strike as from midfight on. If you are Fury DW specced you probably have improved HS and you should use your DW-MH-weapon (i use Black Planar Edge) If you have excess rage activate rampage and use bloodthirst. You should take advantage of your fury skills in defensive stance
Since you are probably lacking "defiance", as for offensive specced warriors, my philosophy is threat via damage.

You are right, I was running some numbers after I posted that and I did make a mistake with my formula. It will take several changes to the spreadsheet, its on the TODO list.

Does anyone have any accurate information on the behavior of Unbridaled Wrath? How exactly does it work now?

Anyone have thoughts on Haste Proc weapons in the off-hand?

I'm crafting a Drakefist Hammer and have, as offhand options, either:
- Emerald Ripper (81 dps)
- Blackout Truncheon (69 dps), but with a 132 haste rating proc (not sure if it stacks with Drakefist's proc)

So doing some theorycrafting with the current spreadsheet, I'm trying to decide between the 88 DPS smithing MHs. Without the hammer's proc being modeled, I've got Black Planar Edge coming out at some 57 DPS higher than Dragonmaw with raid buffs. That seems... excessive.

My undestanding is that roughly 16 haste rating is equal to 1% haste, and people report the proc on Dragonmaw et al to be from 1.2 to 1.7 PPM, which tells me it should be worth something like 8-10% average haste give or take. Are my numbers way off?

Anyone DPS-raiding with a 2h Fury build(imp slam)?

pro and cons? (This will be mainly for DPS pve raiding)

And is this a build you are going to stick with or just something to play with until you get better 1hs?

Thanks!

Ok so I have a question on what my goal should be as a DW Fury 17/44/0 build.

Like is there a Hit% cap for DW Fury?

I sit at about

1400 AP
270 Hit Rating + 3% from talents
28.38% crit

In Berserker stance.

I am thinking that I could possibly drop down to 200 Hit + 3% from talents = 15.65% Hit
that I could raise my Crit and AP up more.

Please give me some feed back I would appreciate it.

The proc from the Truncheon does stack with the Drakefist's haste proc, I've had them both affecting me at the same time before.

I've done quite a bit with a 31-30 and a 33-28 build (using Lunar Crescent) with imp slam and I love it. In fact, I feel more gimped without imp slam than other "specials".

If you're going this route, I'd suggest at least 31 in Arms for MS then add imp slam and whatever else you want (for pve, imp execute and at least 3 points in Flurry would be suggestion).

In Kara runs where I haven't had to off-tank or 5-man instances where I'm just dpsing, I'm usually destroying the meter (only been passed once in the meters with this build and that was an epicced-out rogue in Heroic Mana Tombs.

Basically, imp slam takes the place of Heroic Strike (though you can still throw in a good HS here and there) with lots of damage but less threat and more rage generated.

If I can charge, I will (after the tank gets initial agro). If not, I bloodrage and head in. Throw down a Mortal Strike (thunderclap and/or demo shout after battle shout), then a couple of imp slams and I should be ready for execute, or another MS at the very least.

I find MS generally hits harder than Bloodthirst with a 2hander. And with axe spec, I go with 30% crit in battle stance so flurry is usually up most of the time.

I've also tried with with sword spec in the PTR and find it also works nicely even with lower crit.

As far as 1handers, I have Planar Edge and the lvl 70 pvp off-hand axe so the gear isn't too bad for a DW build.

From my experience it is a viable build dps-wise, but i have very limited raiding expirience with it as it is only a twink.
In controlled sitiuations (where i can maintain a constant whitehit->slam->MS/WW->whitehit->slam->etc pp Rotation) i'm able to outdamage our DW-Fury's.
The uge downside is that you will lose up to 30% of your dps if you must be mobile (no slam).
Another thing to consider is that haste-effects are completly useless as you will allready operate on a GCD based swingtime if (5 points) flurry is up.

id like to see a impale/Rampage with drakefist and blackout VS a 26/35 planar edge build\

edit just did a t2 mace with 12/44+ vs a t2 axe with 26/35 and it seems the axe wins by about 15 raw DPS

and im sure it would only continue to grow as gear improved? or would it? would the proc on drakefist line edge out the crit?

Putting some finishing touches on my own spreadsheet. What I'm concerned about accomplishing is a detailed analysis of stats and talent choices. Does anyone have any tips for hosting? Is a fileplanet account expensive?

I do not have any extensive experience with it. I just recieved a Gorehowl and respecced to initially try out 31/30, which allowed me to top the meter on our first Kazzak kill. My reason to go with this over my regular DW build was just to abuse Slam during the periods where the melee are all slowed by his thunderclap. It seemed to work well. I recently respecced to 20/41 (Probably not the optimal 2h Fury, but close enough) and the Slam damage is amazing. They do more damage than what my MS did and what my current BT do and cost just over half of the rage (on a perfectly timed Slam after a white hit). I think the build has the potential to do at least DW damage, possibly just under or just over depending on gear. The biggest problem with a 2h build though I believe is that it relies on perfect or near perfectly timed Slams. If your timing is off, your DPS takes a big hit and your rage generation is really bad. Going to try it out on Gruul and then Karazhan tonight and see how well it performs for me.