Sorry to bother, but shouldn't use of Cleave/HS significantly decrease "rage generated" and thus decrease the overall DPS significantly? I noticed that often, selecting Cleave would increase the DPS higher than HS would, while taking "Rage Used" well above "Rage Generated". Entirely possible this is just Open Office sucking again, but thus far it's been stable with your most recent version.

What about overpower?

Boevis, the white damage cost and its associated rage is factored into cleave and heroic strike. So, for example, heroic strike costs 15 + (average damage of white hit)/(player level/2). This allows me to use the abilities on the spreadsheet without subracting rage from the RagePS field. As for the cooldowns, cleave is just any number the user wants to put in. That's why you can put in an unrealistic number such that your rage usage goes well over your rage generation. This is just another one of those fool-proof things that I'm not going to implement. I'd rather the users of my spreadsheet have to think a little bit, it leads to people asking questions(like you did) and helps me debug the spreadsheet. As for heroic strike cooldown, there's an equation there. Basically, it uses the leftover rage after all the other abilities.

Thanks, Virtua. I may be the author of this spreadsheet, but a lot of people in this thread have helped me get it to where it is now. They deserve credit as well.

Phlare, I'll be honest, I forgot about overpower. But, now that you mention it, it's kind of hard to fit overpower into a priority lineup. How much rage you have when the opponent dodges will be the main factor to whether you want to switch stances to overpower. But overall, I would probably put it between WW and hamstring if you have it talented, below hamstring untalented.

FWIW, I read this thread in open forums and couldn't believe the level of idiocy displayed by some people -- it was nice of you to try to be helpful Morsexy but I've pretty much given up hope on those open forums. Another big thanks to Deathwing for giving us a nice tool to compare setups. I've pointed all of my DPS-ing warrior guildmates at this sheet and they have all found it very helpful. I wish I could get our GL or RL to look at it too so they understand the value of certain weapons between warrior and rogue, but that's another problem entirely.

ObOnTopicComment: At one point when I was playing with the sheet, it seemed like it was double-counting enchants between your MH/OH setup and and your execute switch setup (since the stat totals were simple SUM() formulae) -- for example if you had Iblis/Maladath and 2x crusader, and execute switch to Iblis w/crusader, your "normal" DPS seemed to have the effect of 3x crusader included, rather than 2x. The obvious solution was to not select any enchant for the execute switch but that was counterintuitive. I haven't downloaded the newest one of late so maybe this is fixed but it's just one thing I noticed a few weeks ago.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...42774835&sid=1

If anything that Impreza guy reminds me of some old geezer trying to bash against 'progress' being made in their profession. Like my dad who used to go on complete crusades against computers in his firm in the early 90's. He always used the same kind of arguements as Impreza, "A machine can never replace a human being, it will always be inferior!" - "I prefer an experienced clerk crunching my numbers over a computer any day god damn it!".

what is really scary is that with any formula to predict the new rps that people have come up with top end gear the rage nerf is about 50% (usually from 15-16 rage per sec to 5-8 rps

I was wondering if I am doing something wrong because when I put Earthstrike as trinket compared to other trinkets like maelstrom or blackhand breadth it seems to lowers the dps, also if i replace earthstrike with jom gabbar or slayer's crest it lowers the dps, am I doing something wrong or are those trinket crap heh.

The spreadsheet comes with the highest dps pieces on all spots, but ghoul skin tunic seems to be giving more than ribcage. Is it really giving more, and you just didnt want to use a leather chest for 2 dps; or am I missing something?

BHB and Maelstrom are both better than Earthstrike for sustained dps. Slayers Crest is obviously much better though, Jom Gabbar as well iirc - either they are modelled incorrectly or u did something wrong.

I am pretty sure GST has been ahead (ever so slightly) in the few iterations I've tried -- so I'm not sure if it was just a gearing choice.