Ok, so after reading the suggestions and advice that was given to me here, I'm sitting at 1612 unbuffed ap (add 10% since I'm spec'd prot, so rougly 1773 fury) AP 259+ Hit (~19.42 hit /w precision) 26.65% Chance to crit, what stats should I gain more of, lose of, in order to maximize raid DPS?

No, because it supposedly prevents your off hand from attacking as well while it's being "cast". It's extremely good for 2h builds, but I can't see any practical use for DW, until they come out with a good 3.0+ speed MH coupled with a 1.8 - 1.5 speed off hand.

I recently switched from 44/17 DW set up to the 31/30 MS/Flurry spec using a Deep Thunder. After ironing out some details in PVP for my spec I wanted to try it a raid setting so I assembled my KZ team and we did Maiden and Ilhoof. (left over bosses after clear) On Maided I did around 700DPS. Comparatively when I was DW I did around 450. Thinking that maybe this was a fluke, we went to Ilhoof. I registerd 745 DPS and on this fight I was not using too much WW in order to keep the healers happy. Recap, DPSfu (or whatever it is called), and SWStats all registerd the same readings. I found the results to be staggering given the switch and my long standing belief that DW was better sustained DPS than 2H. Has anyone else experienced this type of result?

For comparison sake: In my DW Gear I had 27%Crit, 13%Hit, (3 Talent) and ~1650AP all in Berserker stance. MH was Decapitator, OH was Edge of Cosmos. For my MS Set up I have 28.50% Crit, 7% Hit, and 1550AP. Using Deep Thunder. (swapped some gear out for MS)

I'm not posting this as a brag post, I am curious if perhaps I was doing something wrong when I was DW? Or have others experienced this type of dramatic increase in DPS going 31/30?

Is the 450dps you quoted dps on the Maiden? I have worse gear than you and do more DPS on that fight. I've only recently been keeping WWS; of the 2 I have for maiden one was me being an idiot and doing a horrible job of eating her holy fire. The other shows 532 DPS which is still low for me while DPSing her on that fight. I think that the week before was 600+. All I can offer for that is here
Anyhow, I would that that incoming damage -> rage favors 2h more than DW, but that doesn't explain the disparity that you're seeing; although the combination of extra rage + better weapon might do it.

I did notice the incoming damage on Ilhoof more than maiden since I was responsible for picking up the Big Imp when he was up. With him hitting me I was able to spam Slam until he died. I will have to give my spec a more rigourous testing, though. Tonight is Gruul so we'll see.

As an aside, a really fun thing to do if you have a strong threat generating tank is to spam WW and Cleave to kill imps on Ilhoof. This brings up Victory Rush literally all the time, which essentially = BT sans the cooldown. Your healers may not like you for doing this, however.

I could never top more than about 415-430DPS on Recap using DW Fury. I was curious if perhaps going to a faster OH might have helped? I was using BT ahead of WW, queing HS/Cleave to dump rage, keeping Rampage and BS up, etc. I wasn't big on Spamming Hamstring though, perhaps that was the issue? .

Did you have windfury?

I did 400 dps as prot on Maiden (no shaman), your number seems really low.

Fury isn't a viable DPS build unless you really have the gear to back it up, and stats of course.

I did not have Windfury in either sample with the 31/30 spec. Relevant Buffs were BS, MOW, and BOK.

FrostShock are you saying that 27% Crit/ 13% Hit/ 1650AP with weapons I cited is insufficient for DW Fury at my progression level or in general? If so please explain why? My suspicion is there may be a flaw in my rotation, which if that is the case I would like to correct it.

I will run a more dedicated test tonight on Gruul. We are still learning him so there will be some variability to the sampling.

Well, that is going to make a HUGE difference.

Exactly how long did it take for you to come up with that astonishing insight?

I have almost the exact same stats that you posted for your DW gear and I'm pulling around 710dps on the illhoof fight, while OTing the imp. That number was without LotP and Windfury. What type of DPS cycle were you using? I use the standard BT WW weaving with hamstring, then heroic strike for rage dump. On fights that have me moving alot more like prince or Gruul I only pull around 600 :/ Remember those numbers are without LotP and Windfury.

It sounds like a flaw in your rotation I can maintain about 500-600 dps in fury gear with a full prot spec.

We did some attempts on Lady V, and I kept up somewhere around 700-800 consistent DPS, and my gear is .. descent, is that a reasonable amount of DPS for such a fight? I changed my spec and item sockets, also along with changing my melee stats, such as reducing hit for more crit/ap, considering these changes, with the amount of DPS i put out, is this a descent amount of DPS for this fight, or is there room for improvement.. Oh I just had raid buffs + Mongoose Elixir (lol).

It's not really a DPS warrior question, but probably belongs here to avoid getting heaped:

I've just respec'd prot, from MS, since we're starting attempts on Gruul atm and I have the best gear currently (got full kara plate except chest so far). What is my best bet for soloing? I was going with the assumption that dual wielding the slowest MH I can get, and the highest dps offhand, while gearing for as much +hit% as I can get is the best plan, but I could use some input if there's other prot wars reading this.

Currently I've got t1 BS axe, waiting for either the next decapitator or a few more p.nethers to upgrade, and am offhanding malchezzar, with about 13% hit iirc. Actually I usually log out in dps gear so armory should be accurate - here (surely there must be a better DPS belt than onslaught for dual-wield? I grabbed everything out my bank with +hit on, but wearing this still pains me.)

If your dps gear is good enough, and it sounds like it, try DWing. It's a little slower than Fury but I find it better than going in with a shield (unless the mobs are caster-heavy so I cab shield reflect).

That said, I know a good number of prot warriors who prefer full tank gear and going for Shield Slam spam.

I have Mooncleaver as well (usually a 2hand DPS spec) but hate not having an instant with it other than WW when prot-specced so I stick with DWing.

As prot solo (or trying to DPS on non-tank fights), I DW the T1 smithing axe with King's Defender, put on max hit gear and go to town. I never got an Onslaught or Mentor girdle so I believe I use a green quest reward from Netherstorm (Engraved Cattleman's Buckle?) or the Deathforge Girdle from Sethekk Halls depending on the situation (balancing stamina, AP, hit, crit). I run between 12-14% hit and it seems to work pretty well.

Assuming you have 4/5 or 5/5 1H spec, you will actually do decent DPS with heavy Devastate/HS, some folks were actually surprised at my DPS in these situations (it's nice to have really low expectations to begin with).

ok, i realize this was a good system for DW Fury, but due to the haste rating and glancing changes, i believe hit rating would be much lower and crit and haste would be much higher.

also, anybody have a DEP for 31/30 2H builds?

Is this spreadsheet based off of 0% mob mitigation? If so, what is the average fully sundered boss mob at, 20% - 30%? Even if that were the case, the "buffed DPS" I am getting with this sheet seems to be quite inflated (1750??) compared to what actually happens.

MobMitigation

Void reaver has ~1.5k armor with sunder + ff + cor. Astromancer has around 200. It all depends on which encounter you're facing, try it out yourself.

Having just started collecting DPS gear for raiding, my unbuffed stats are currently 1678 AP, 25.2% crit, and 11.3% hit, in Battle Stance. My instincts, other warriors I know, and "conventional wisdom" tell me that both my crit/hit are too low. But the spreadsheet rates Strength as considerably more per point than the other stats.

When it comes to selecting gems, is this a case where I should just go with the math and I always go for +8 Str where appropriate?

EDIT: the spreadsheet had a totally wrong AP listed as my unbuffed AP (from the unbuffed tab). Corrected with actual in-game value.

Hmm that's alot of attack power.. i think i have ~1850 in zerker, unbuffed, ;O

Anyways, this spreadsheet is missing many items that I have, either that or I couldn't find them.. Missing X-Bow from Attunemen, Red Belt of Battle (Sp?) along with my rings.. =-/