Once the FT bug is fixed, I feel that slow/slow WF/WF is the way to go. Even with dual HWL with WF, I rarely run OOM before SR is back up again (though I do recommend getting a Black Grasp -- it is fantastic).

For 70, I think a 0/40/21 build is the way to go. SR won't be useful in arenas when compared to NS as I have yet to run OOM in an arena. NS is just too good to pass up, either a max heal to a teammate, or a instant chain lightning on a SS target to get the first arena kill (in all the matches I have played, I have yet to see a team go on to victory when they have had the first team death).

To make better use of Stormstrike, and of course to avoid Windfury overlap. :P

Happily, I don't think there is a wrong answer to this since your style of play will dictate which gear is "better" for you.

Does anyone actually know the solid numbers on the proc rate of JoW and SR? I've been looking around but I haven't seen anybody who's done the tests. I.e. are these PPM procs (if so what ppm), and if chance based, what chance?

JoW has always been 50% (see http://www.thotbott.com/beta?sp=27164 )

Not sure on SR.

i was asking this question for months, and someone finally did some tests on SR and posted here. the procrate was ~35%

edit: beaten

Okies. Since the preparing reroll topic got closed I think this is the right place to ask few pointers about leveling shaman. I've gathered few items for leveling and while checking for upgrades for mail gloves I noticed there weren't too many good ones before level 68+(thottbot beta). Then I checked the Black Grasp of the Destroyer but I don't know if those would be worth the costs. I'm prolly going to grind as dw enhancement. So is the mana going to be problem with shamanistic rage and if so would the black grasps cut the downtime down enough?

Sorry if this has been asked before, I skimmed through the last 10 pages and didn't notice anything there.

I am enhancement and use those gloves and I adore them! I was grinding nonstop for about 4 hours with so little down time. Combined The gloves no longer proc on WF hits however but with a HWL MH and Hakkar's 1H axe in the OH and with Shamanistic rage I had no problems with mana

Same situation than Feles, I have a question about Shaman rerolling. Until I hit level 62 (where I should have done most of the Hellfire Peninsula quests), I have planned to stay Enhancement, but as an healing-freak, I was planning to respec Elemental (click for possible template) to do both things, leveling and healing in 5-man dungeons without having to collect two totally different gears and/or respecing Resto for the few 'hard for an inexperienced PuG' dungeons. Is there so much downtime with Elemental (I'm totally planning to grind Honor Hold tokens to get Mark of Vindication asap, and later the Power Infused Mushroom) ?

No. I have an Ironfoe and the screenshots to prove that (prior to 2.0, I've hardly been on since) I was able to get stuff like a normal hit proccing Windfury hits proccing Ironfoe hits proccing Windfury hits. In one or two unusual cases, even longer strings than that. This was well and truly after they stopped multiple damage procs from the same swing, but it didn't prevent Ironfoe proccing off the windfury swings and vice versa.

As such, if they put a cooldown in on Windfury procs, it was in 2.0 or only on beta, since I was previously able to get multiple Windfury procs in the same fraction of a second.

Well, for whatever it's worth on BGotD....I'm not really seeing costs if your guild has been farming AQ40 for a while. Our guild has a stunningly large stockpile of large/small obsidian shards, and I'm reasonably sure I could scrounge up a flask now that we're not going to be raiding quite as much....

And besides skillups I haven't found a single reason that they're needed.

Of course you'll only use them 60-68, but that's a not inconsiderable chunk of time for mats that really are pretty trivial on the return. And for extremely long fights, fights where there's required mana draining (haven't seen em, but after fighting a 5man rag I'm just gonna assume they exist), or fights where -you- are mana drained, it's a fairly decent ability that cannot be easily replicated.

I guess it comes down to costs of materials for you. 60-68 is somewhere between 6-10 days for a dedicated player, and then you're depending on a sidegrade drop table. Me, I'm going to take the sure thing till 70, then run shattered Halls and upgrade straight to Desolation. If you're not looking at buying the shards from the AH, I think I'd recommend doing the same- and you can always couch it as a skillup point!

Of course, if it's a reroll that's not going to be part of the same guild, or on another server, or some such, then I'd recommend -not- doing it, unless you just find a steal on the shards. I just tend to assume most posters here are in guilds which would have a few of these sitting around (it's not ike they're overly useful for anything else).

Not to derail the thread but I really dont know where else to ask this, and it certainly isn't threadworthy in it's own right.

Anyway, I'm rolling a shaman for the first time (the only class I haven't leveled to 60) come expansion. My end goal is to be either 0/10/51 or 10/0/51. Basically a heavy resto build either way. I'm going to be going fully enhancment from 1-60 (due to melee being much easier to twink), but at SOME point I'm going to have to switch over to restoration...I'm afraid if I wait until I'm level 70 I'm going to end up having 0 healing gear and end up with crap +healing and a shallow mana pool.

Basically my question is, should I just stick with enhancment from 60-70, or at some point switch over (after I get a certain amount of +damage?) to restoration beforehand, like at level 60? I can pretty much guess that at level 60 I'm going to have very very minimal +damage equipment, and I'm not certain it'll be all that smart to switch over at that point to a 10/0/41 type build. Any advice is appricated, thanks.