Shaman expansion thoughts and desires - Page 99

GoG · 03/08/07, 3:34 PM

Originally Posted by Squrf

A clearcasted spell does not trigger the 5SR. So yeah, stringing crits not only gives you free shots, they can get you some regen as well. Use Elemental Mastery for a guaranteed pair of free nukes!

I considered that, but you'd have to stop casting a bolt mid cast in order to do that, unless against my intuition, you can actually pop EM mid cast???

Squrf · 03/08/07, 3:38 PM

Originally Posted by GoG

I considered that, but you'd have to stop casting a bolt mid cast in order to do that, unless against my intuition, you can actually pop EM mid cast???

No, use EM. Free crit, triggers a clearcast, your next bolt is free. Two free shots.

GoG · 03/08/07, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by Squrf

No, use EM. Free crit, triggers a clearcast, your next bolt is free. Two free shots.

Heh, I feel silly, don't know why I missed that. This is good news the above scenario would give you more than 2 free spells it would give you 2 free spells + one tick of out of casting mana regen. Raid buffed that should be good for 150ish mana?

Binkenstein · 03/08/07, 3:53 PM

Originally Posted by GoG

I considered that, but you'd have to stop casting a bolt mid cast in order to do that, unless against my intuition, you can actually pop EM mid cast???

I'd say it'd be used in the same way NS is. LB, EM, LB.

Of course, if the first LB crits then you will waste a clearcast, but it's better than wasting time waiting to see if it crits or not.

Squrf · 03/08/07, 4:00 PM

Originally Posted by Binkenstein

I'd say it'd be used in the same way NS is. LB, EM, LB.

Of course, if the first LB crits then you will waste a clearcast, but it's better than wasting time waiting to see if it crits or not.

Before the patch, I remember that EM and Clearcast wouldn't both be consumed on the same cast. I'll take a look tonight and see if the CC buff is consumed in preference to EM or vice versa.

GoG · 03/08/07, 4:09 PM

Next question, if FTongue can proc lightning capacitor, can it now proc clearcast?

GoG · 03/08/07, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by Argrax

From my experience last night it's nearly impossible to try and make DPS gains by upranking to CL on clearcasts. At +600 damage and 25% crit, the breakeven point is a reacton time of ~0.43 seconds, so unless your standing on top of the mob (and even then I think it's questionable) it's a futile effort.

Does this calculation take into account the fact that 66% of shockinators chain lightnings will proc clearcasting? Could be relevant, that in a sustained fight with mana concerns that stopping midcast actually is preferable if it allows you to throw a bigger spell that procs clearcast more often and soak up one tick of the 5 second rule mana regen.

If there are 3 mobs of course.

Tahotar · 03/08/07, 4:44 PM

Originally Posted by GoG

Next question, if FTongue can proc lightning capacitor, can it now proc clearcast?

Not as of last night.

Argrax · 03/08/07, 5:04 PM

Originally Posted by GoG

Does this calculation take into account the fact that 66% of shockinators chain lightnings will proc clearcasting? Could be relevant, that in a sustained fight with mana concerns that stopping midcast actually is preferable if it allows you to throw a bigger spell that procs clearcast more often and soak up one tick of the 5 second rule mana regen.

If there are 3 mobs of course.

It doesn't no, but I can't think of many mana-taxing fights that have more than one mob next to each other for any length of time; Huntsman maybe and possibly Moroes while you're killing the adds (can be very dangerous with shackled adds however).

GoG · 03/08/07, 5:50 PM

Any clue how EF interacts with "on cast" procs? That is will the free spells still trigger things like the restore on spell cast gem or the spellsurge enchant?

Binkenstein · 03/08/07, 6:49 PM

They should still be affected.

the FSR gets triggered when mana is expended, but those procs are triggered on casts.

EF means no mana expendature, but still a "cast" flag to trigger proc effects.

Miaxi · 03/08/07, 8:48 PM

Originally Posted by Squrf

Before the patch, I remember that EM and Clearcast wouldn't both be consumed on the same cast. I'll take a look tonight and see if the CC buff is consumed in preference to EM or vice versa.

Before the patch, elemental mastery was consumed first and clearcasting remained intact.

Nya · 03/09/07, 9:53 PM

I might be asking the obvious but since the talents are worded slightly differently, does FT crits proc Elemental Devastation?

• Viator · 03/21/07, 7:38 PM

I'm wondering if you guys are using the Stormstrike/Mutilate synergy at all and, if so, how do you coordinate it best? Have a couple Mutilate rogues in my guild though one is respeccing out of it due to not liking its dps. Since he's our most reliable raiding rogue I'd like to entice him back to it.

panny · 03/21/07, 9:47 PM

I have the PowerAura mod show me when Stormstrike is up on a mob. Maybe you could get your Rogue friend the same? The fights where you care most about dps are unlikely to have perfect damage rotations, so it's I don't think it's feasible to set up a static rotation. Other than that... get him to call when he's about to Envenom so you don't ES?