Perhaps I miss spoke, I was supporting your example that a rogue can reach the hit cap and will accordingly never miss with my own experiences.

Oops, I guess this was not clear, I made this discovery looking at my dream gear out of Kara...This includes both the main hand and off hand merciless gladiator swords not my current gear.

-fate

link doesn't work for me...

As has been said many times before, and undoubtedly will be said many more, the first page has the wrong link and has not been updated. If you would take the time to go back a page or two, you would find a link to the current spreadsheets and working links.

Let me guess, you looked at the first posting and the link didn't work?

Congratulations, you are not the first one to notice that and you are not the first one unable to look only one single page before this one to find a link to a working version.
http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.p...129#post413129


Could anybody please insert the link into the original posting?
Pf? Mod? Anyone?
Even if it won't be always the newest version, at least all these questions will stop.

Considering that this particular thread was created when a new author took over the spreadsheet, maybe it's time to make a new thread.

I have a small question that is bugging me.

I have used the search, and tried plug'in my gear in the spreadsheet.

My problem is that tonight I will probably get the last vortex to upgrade my MH mace to Dragonstrike. At the same time i will have points enough tomorrow for the S2 Offhand.

My problem now is what to choose.

1) Go for the 1.4 Shiv, and keep my Current 5/5 mace spec.
2) Go for the quickblade, and pick swordspec and weapon expertise.

From the spreadsheet i get like 0.14 dps difference between the 2, in a raidsetup.

But is there anything the spreadsheet is missing, that i should be aware of, or any trinkes or other things that will swap raiddps towards one of the setups.

I really hate PVP, so i want to use my arenapoints right the first time, since it will take me 4-5 weeks to get points again if i make a mistake.

Hope anyone can help me out, or kick me towards other discussions about the same if my searches has missed it.

In my "Optimum CP Usage" it says: "Cycle: 1s/5r snd cut", what does that mean?

It means you get the most dmg by using a 1 point Slice and dice, followed by a 5 point rupture, and then a new 1 point slice and dice, even though the old slice might still be running.

So basicly:

1s = 1 point Slice and Dice.
5r = 5 points Rupture.
snd cut = start new cycle even if the old one is still running.

If i change the sheet to dagger spec and gear i get: "3s/5s/5r", and that would mean first a 3 point Slice and dice, then another 5 point Slice and dice, and last a 5 point rupture. But what if SnD is still running? should i just build 3 cp up and wait for the snd to run out?

What gear was included in that?

Grips of Deftness will have the same effect.

Hourglass isn't quite a good trinket. With combat potency, haste has become our best stat and when Kiss of the Spider was designed, CP did not exist.

My guild is getting deep into the Kael'thas fight right now (pretty consistent phase 4) and with the Bow debuff up on a target, Eviscerate > Rupture, correct?

Well, i'm considering that there are only 4 or so trinkets better in the game right now when i call Hourglass a "good trinket." Not to mention it is a pretty darn good trinket! One of the best a non-raider can hope for. But really, that's a moot point.

i'm also currently a Mutilate spec, which i should have clarified in my above post. So Combat Potency isn't really an issue (at all) with regards to the haste. That's another reason i'm so surprised that the Kiss outperformed the Hourglass.

i suppose i just wanted to bring this to people's attention. As it currently is, the Kiss is the 4th best trinket out there -- behind the Tsunami Talisman and WSC. Who'd have thought it?

I may be wrong, but as far as I know rupture is physical damage and affected by the bow debuff. Kael himself doesn't have too much armor though, so I prefer eviscerate anyways.

For me the Kiss ot the Spider is a DPS loose against Hourglass.

But will look at haste, just was wondering, I added some haste and this happen:

Melee DPS +9
Finisher DPS -1
Other DPS -1


Well.. we'll see, maybe

Rupture falls under the physical school of damage; bleeding is a mechanic of that school.

Kind of the same way some mobs are immune to poisons, but not to spells that do nature damage

Wanted to send a huge thanks to the new owner of the spreadsheet. I've been looking for this for a while since the bleedo site stopped responding.

And it has already helped me improve my raid DPS quite a bit.

Thanks again!

In reference to exact hit rating conversion numbers, you could use the exact formulas.
Hit rating to 1% hit = 10 * 82 / 52 = 15.769
Crit rating to 1% = 14 * 82 / 52 = 22.077
Skill rating to 1 skill point = 2.5 * 82 / 52 = 3.942

In fact, you can go to that famous Blizzard blue post, multiply the level 60 numbers by 82 / 52 and get the exact conversion factor for all the ratings. I usually edit those myself with new versions.

I recall seeing a post on some board awhile back where someone spent the time looking through the mpq's and found an embedded chart that went to multiple digits for all the levels and they back-calculated this formula from there.
I see the information I referenced on wowwiki, crediting Ratings Buster. I also see a different system applied from 70-100, so corrected the aside below. The formula for 70 remains the same.
(As an aside, the conversion for 69 is 82/55; 68 is 82/58; 67 is 82/61 up to 60 at 82/82 and higher levels, for now are apparently coded to be: 71 is 83/52; 72 is 84/52; up to 112/52 at 100)

okay I'll take those formulas. Will be the best choice I think.

Mmh, does anyone know how to calc the Tunderfury debuff. It decreases the nature resistance by 25. But how much increase is this for poison, envenom etc.

Would think its around 3% but don't know this is right.

If I recall correctly, there is 75% resistance at level x5 (the resist cap for chars) so for a char that is 70, 350. Hence the old MC days where 315 resist was max useable vs. Rags.

So, 75%/(350/25) = (75/14)% less often = 5.357% of resists are essentially converted to full damage. In essence treat it as that percent increase to spell hit I'd think.