heel

Didn't even consider that it might not stack. Let me log on to the PTR and test it now.

Edit: Yes, it stacks - 23 second cooldown with talents.

Also, racials are idiotic, they would be inherenty imbalanced even if an attempt was made to equalize them (and no such attempt has been made). Racials have a pronounced negative effect for min-maxers, pvpers, as well as run-of-the-mill players who didn't realize that a seemingly cosmetic decision would forever gimp their characters. No one likes racials, period, and there's no good reason why they should still be in the . . . I feel a yawn coming on. This shit has been rehashed over and over again for the past three years, and for some reason beyond the comprehension of any of us, all of the otherwise intelligent designers and developers have chosen to ignore the problem. Well, not ignore it, so much as exacerbate it. Beats the hell out of me why they're doing things the way they are.

 

Kobal

So what would be the current answer to the Sunday question:

If I were to roll an alliance PVE shadow priest this sunday, which race should I choose? Night Elf or Draenei?

 

Mearis

Night Elf

 

heel

It's actually arguable; Draenei do more for their party with the hit aura and the mana return thing. Night Elves will win the damage meters, but return less mana. I think I might choose Draenei.

 

◊ Kalman

I'd probably pick draenei, simply because Chastise will have some use in PvP even as shadow (yeah, I'd drop form for an incapacitate if needed) and you provide significantly better mana regen than an elf to your group.

But I think in that case it comes down to personal preference as much as anything. Heel got it right; elves for a little more personal damage, draenei for more mana return and a PvP incapacitate. In the end, I'd probably pick as much based on looks/stereotypes as on racial. And I hate night elves.

http://mmorchive.net

The WoW forums, explained:

 

caskeper

Been thinking a bit.. If going for full damage gear that drops Mount Hyjal / Black Temple, what would be best?
Just getting the random high +dmg with a lot of sockets, or will the +10% damage on mind blast negate the loss of +dmg when you collect 4 pieces of T6?
I'm speaking strickly from a dps output pov here, with 4/5 or 5/5 imp mind blast.
I'm aware T6 is superior when it comes to mana regen, hit, crit and in most cases stamina as well.

 

Caligula

Quick and dirty math:

We'll say that MB accounts for 20% of our damage (low estimate it's more like 22% for me). Just going from personal experience, my MB averages around 2200 (3/5 t6, missing a few pieces of gear here and there). So 2200/1.5 = 1450 DPS (rounded a bit). Increasing that by 10% is another 145 DPS * 20% = 29 total DPS increase. We'll use a number I've seen thrown around around in the new shadowpriest thread ( http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16977-s...s_effectively/ join us there) as 1 damage = .45 dps. So to increase our dps by 29 we'd need 64 + damage to be equivalent to the 4 pc bonus. I don't think you're going to find 64 more damage on the various different pieces you'd use to replace your t6, especially not any with as much mp/5 and other stats to go along with it.

 

caskeper

Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll be going for T6.

 

Caligula

Check out that other thread I linked to as well as this thread if you are concerned about the effectiveness of specific pieces of gear.

shadowpriest.com :: View topic - Best Raiding Gear Available

 

Mimirswell

Does anyone know of a mod that would be capable of displaying the following in the middle of the screen while in combat:

• If Vampiric Touch is not on current target or has a duration of less than or equal to 1.5 seconds, then display "Vampiric Touch"
• If VT is up and Shadow Word: Pain is not on current target then Display "Shadow Word: Pain"
• If VT and SW:P are up and Mindblast is not on cooldown, then display "Mind Blast" If VT, SW:P are up and Mindblast is on cooldown, then display "Shadow Word: Death"
• If VT, SW:P are up and MB and SW: D are on cooldown and player race is Night Elf, then display "Starshards"
• If VT, SW:P are up and MB, SW: D and Starshards are on cooldown, then display "Mindflay"

I tried altering SCT to do it but it doesn't appear capable of tracking cooldowns or dots on targets that do not have a fade message.

 

Obould

You can try Parrott, i think it is able to display things like this mayby not the <1.5sec thing but if the buff/debuff is on the current target i am sure its capable.

 

• alinna

It might be a good idea, if such a mod can do this, to check the player's current health, calculate what a crit Shadow Word: Death would hit for (player's +dmg, maybe mob debuffs) and make sure the player's current health exceeds that before displaying Shadow Word: Death on the screen.