If they keep this multi-shot cost reduction change I'm thinking of this for a 70 marks build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=VxZVEboVzhestMG0hz

I dunno what the hell I'm doing for BM for levelling... maybe something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mVbG0xxRquVoVgboMZ0h

Looking at that is, to me, choosing between getting deterrence +survivalist and more pet damage. Would you say you ended up melee tanking so rarely compared to opportunities for pet DPS that extra pet damage outweighed the times Deterrence would have saved your life?

A well placed trap, in my opinion, would save your life just as well as Deterrence. And I don't actually recall having to tank anything thanks to the scaling growl, misdirection and feign death, although rarely would all of those actually have to used if ever.

Only time I remember dying due to aggro was against the first boss of Sethekk Halls where our group opted to burn him down before the adds he summons could kill us, so the shaman popped Blood Lust, I popped Bladefist's, Blood Fury, and Rapid Fire and soon enough I had aggro over the warrior. I believe that was at level 68 and I didn't have Misdirection and got 2 2000 Auto Shot crits in a row at a 1.56 attack speed.

What scenario do you think would require Deterrence over a trap or any of the afore mentioned abilities in order to survive? Only thing I would think of is getting aggro on multiple mobs, but then I doubt your melee damage will save you in the time that Deterrence is up, but would probably allow enough time to drop a Frost Trap and start kiting or Feign Death if it was on cooldown with not much time left.

Don't put 1 point in improved hunters mark, either you put all points in it, or none. For a raid the optimal is 1 hunter who has this talent and the rest don't, so 1 point in it is a waste, imo. I would suggest you putted it in improved arcane shot instead, or just something else really :P.

Okay thought your spec were for raid damage, then my bad :)

You know, as much as hunters are focusing on wind serpents and how they are emerging and the premier raid dps pet (and to an extent PvP pet) I'm sure a nerf for them in coming.

Anytime a pet has emerged as the premier pet for one thing or another it gets nerfed back in line with the rest. Be it run speed, attack speed, whatever. Poison spit was pretty decent, it didn't even scale with AP and it just got nerfed to be in line with scorpid poison.

So if I were you I'd be hesitant to put all my eggs in the wind serpent basket.

Scaling pet damage does make sense though, even if Wind Serpent might be needing some tuning.

Edit: Other than that, any confirmation or denial on pets & Greater Blessings? Kinda hard for me to test myself before the expansion and all... ;)

You sure he doesn't have Cobra Reflexes as well? It's a 30% haste too.

He does not have Cobra Reflexes. It lists Frenzy as a buff permanently. I'm not sure if it's just a display bug. Also, I am BM specced, so I'm not sure if that is what is causing it.

Even if they get nerfed the ranged attack and what it does to pet surviveability is tough to pass up.

I'd prefer most of the pet abilities to scale though, so that a combination of pet abilities makes the choice instead of pure DPS.

Erm, woops. Sorry in our testing we forgot to mention Imp HM results. It seems bugged. Basically, it seems unless the pet is directly buffed with something that increases it's AP, Growl wont scale. Imp HM is a debuff on the mob rather than a buff on the pet.

We tested this as follows: I buffed Chul and pet with TSA (no other buffs). Chul stood far enough away so that TSA disappeared from him (ie out of range of TSA), such that the pet didnt receive any AP scaling. I beat on the mob till I pulled aggro. Growl produced x amount of threat. Chul then cast Imp HM (no other buffs) and then tested. Growl produced the same amount of threat as no buffs (ie less than x).

So either Imp HM is made to add melee AP damage vs the mob only, or it's bugged and should be adding to the pet such that it can boost Growl too. We made a bug thread, feel free to add to it if you like. Please only add extra information if you have it, as they dont like threads to be mindlessly bumped and may lock the thread.

Also, as Chul's request, has anyone seen how much Growl threat they can get with high level gear and full buffs? Be interesting for theory value to see how high it could get.

Edit: I should add that I agree with your choice of talent placement, even without Growl buff, Migbar. It still helps you solo, and is always there for 1 point compared to all the other choices.

I have a couple of other requests too. Does anyone have the values at level 70 for stat conversion? For example, how much Agi is 1%crit?; How much Agi is 1% dodge; etc.

Also, do we have any working spreadsheets for gear, spec comparison yet?