Speaking of KTM, do you guys find it useful at all as a hunter? I know other dps classes live and die by it. And while we only reduce our threat using FD, it seems that using this consistently is a guranteed way to never aggro(unless the mob aggro wipes, or something like that) thus making KTM useless for us.

I find KTM extremely useful.
I'm not really of the mind to feign whenever its up, i tend to find that it will cause too many issues with a perfect rotation for the next few autoshots until you can get back in the rhythm.

Sure, thats what I do, but it takes away my freedom when to use it, because it can sure take some time until I am forced to use feign death, because on 95% of the fights I can watch my thread just perfectly with KTM, and then it might be too late to use blood fury for its full duration. So, not a satisfying solution.

Edit: As a comment on KTM itself. While many may argue to have the timings in their guts, I can only strongly recommend you to use it, because its the same argument as with autoshot bars and cooldown counts. You might think you are good, but no matter what you think, having the addon makes you better. And in the end, thats what leads the raid to victory. The only drawback with KTM is, you need to convince your tanks to use it.

In groups, I adore KTM, because it lets me evaluate at a glance whether the mob will beat feet back to the tank if I feign, or whether it will chase a squishy. In the latter case, I would greatly prefer the mob attack me, with all my tricks, 10k health and 6k armor. In fact, this type of decision-making is exactly what I look for when I'm evaluating Hunter recruits. The best candidates will already exercise similar judgement; the better candidates will respond to my comments on the matter; and the detritus will continue to Feign with abandon.

In raids, I prefer to not break my rotation if not strictly necessary, so I will push my DPS until I'm cresting the MT's threat, which can take a little while, given Misdirects and how my DPS ramps up as I start chaining procs (Imp Hawk, Trophy, Hourglass, etc.). Then I'll FD once and in most cases I don't have to worry again.

I second this emotion. Although I am rarely constrained by it you get the occasional freak burst of luck which can make you generate a lot more agro than you expect. For example this Wednesday I had a Moroes kill where I averaged a crit rate 5-10% above my expected one for the duration of the kill - without KTM I would likely have overaggroed, as it was well above my normal 'feel' for it.

As an aside, leading a raid I always have to have it up regardless to chastise the unobservant!

This is because Blood Fury has the same icon as Feign Death which is confusing KTM. This was fixed in version 19.17 which is in the beta section on Curse Gaming.

Ok I have to ask this. Is it normal to suffer 0.5 delay for autoshot to go off at the end of casting cycle?

I use ZHunter timers and ZAutoShot timer bar. And whenever bar fills up I wait about .5 seconds for shot to go off. I think it relates to the animation of auto Shot kickback. This is even with just using autoshot nothing else.

Does the dragonspine trophy and other haste effects (abacus, Imp Aoth) big time dps boosters for hunters?
Or does it ruin the rhythm of your rotation too much?

Yes, autoshot has that hidden delay.

I see that Gronnstalker stats are up on mmo-champion and world of raids. The stats are pretty impressive. I noticed that shoulders and gloves have an interesting bonus - "your attacks ignore ### of your opponent's armor." Also... no +to hit, but most pieces havel crit rating.

the worth of +int and mp/5 on our set really annoys me.. look at the rogue set.. almost double the crit with a ton of +hit also along with more stam

the helm I think is an especially bad trade off... its like 26 int 7mp/5 vs 10 stam, 2 ap, 24 crit, 12 hit

Armor reduction should be passive skill given to hunters at level 10 that scales up form there. Nothing game breaking but something sufficient enough to justify having it. They could even limit it to the beasts/dragonking/demons only. So that way it would be useless in pvp.

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I'm confused at your statement.
Are you saying that you think int gives us spell penetration?
Are you saying that spell penetration gear helps our trap resists? Or that it should?
(I think it should so we aren't forced to go 17 pts in survival just to have reliable CC)

Or maybe you're replying to a post that I missed somewhere.

He is saying that new stat on tier 6 "Ignores xx amount of armor" equals to spell penetration.

hes talking about the shoulders that ignore armor

You do realize that more than half of all 25 man raid bosses are Humanoid, right?

Off top of my head maybe 2 pop up and quick search on wowhead.com and thottbot most come up as uncategorized. Even if that's the case add boss classification to the list. Classification is in the game just adapt it to the new skill.

A resisted FD still drops you to zero threat. It just does not take you out of combat.

If you are in a sub 50ms latency situation you could just write a 30s long castsequence that has a FD at the end! That would probably dump you over the 255 characters though.

I'm confused. Are you telling me FD wipes the threat whether it is resisted or not? Sarcasm I hope.

If that is the case, then the version of KTM I'm using is bugged, because it doesn't always show me at 0 threat after an FD.

Hmm, can't find source now that I'm actually looking. I might just be mixing it up with the changes to multiple mob resists changes.

I swear I read that somewhere though. Guess I need more coffee