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Old 02/02/07, 7:01 AM   #16
Ry
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Human Warrior
 
Malfurion
Don't forget [Silver Spellthread]. I know its silly but if you're not willing to commit to an expensive enchant on your legs, this one is good and very cheap to make.

As a bonus the +46 healing works for your [Diamond Flask] if you still have one. :)

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Old 02/02/07, 7:48 AM   #17
Ultramax
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Mal'Ganis
How is silver spell thread cheaper than Clefthoof?

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Old 02/02/07, 8:33 AM   #18
slitz
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Gnome Mage
 
Kazzak (EU)
I'm kinda disappointed about Glyph of the Defender (16 Defense Rating, 17 Dodge Rating) being imo inferior to Presence of Might from Zul'Gurub (10 Stamina, 10 Defense Rating, 15 to Block Value), but not sure I can be bothered to farm Zul'Gurub every single time I get a head piece upgrade that I feel worthy of a enchant.
Am I an idiot for picking 15 to Block Value and 10 stamina over 6 Defense Rating and 17 Dodge Rating?

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Old 02/02/07, 8:59 AM   #19
suicuique
King Hippo
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Antonidas (EU)
Originally Posted by slitz
Am I an idiot for picking 15 to Block Value and 10 stamina over 6 Defense Rating and 17 Dodge Rating?
No you're not.
I already used 2 ZG enchants on 2 helms bacause I somehow assumed the new helm enchant would be clearly better in all cases, but will keep the 3rd one banked ... in case a definite helm upgrade with high stamina surfaces or block value is needed.

The KoT enchant is oviously better for a mitigation helm. In a fight with heavy physical damage i'd take 17 dodge rating anytime over 10 STA. Even more so when you consider that the higher your avoidance mitigation gets the more each % dodge/parry is worth.

On the other hand the KoT enchant does nothing in a caster heavy encounter.

So I'm torn myself.

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Old 02/02/07, 10:27 AM   #20
Fellwraith
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Originally Posted by slitz
Am I an idiot for picking 15 to Block Value and 10 stamina over 6 Defense Rating and 17 Dodge Rating?
No, the same thought has been bouncing around my head too. The ZG enchant seems a bit more well-rounded and actually benefits a bit from talents. The block value is 19.5 when you factor in shield mastery and vitality nets you 105 hp if you hit a break point and round up. The hard part is getting people to actually want to run ZG. I don't think other classes benefit as much from their ZG enchant.

If the other enchant had stamina on it, I'd probably view it in a better light.

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Old 02/02/07, 12:30 PM   #21
 frmorrison
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Originally Posted by Fellwraith
I don't think other classes benefit as much from their ZG enchant.
Locks enchant is 18 damage/10 stamina, while the Sha'tar enchant is 22 damage. The ZG one is better for those two classes in general.

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Old 02/02/07, 2:31 PM   #22
Ry
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Human Warrior
 
Malfurion
Originally Posted by Ultramax
How is silver spell thread cheaper than Clefthoof?
Primal Life is less than half the cost of Earth on my server. Seems that you get tons of it as an herbalist and there's not that many people using it.

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Old 02/02/07, 3:12 PM   #23
Gyshall
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Originally Posted by Ry
Originally Posted by Ultramax
How is silver spell thread cheaper than Clefthoof?
Primal Life is less than half the cost of Earth on my server. Seems that you get tons of it as an herbalist and there's not that many people using it.
I spent all of twenty minutes farming out a few of the mats for Clefthoof. Primal Earths are stupidly easy to obtain as a miner.

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Old 02/02/07, 3:13 PM   #24
Exigent
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Tauren Warrior
 
Turalyon
Originally Posted by Twid
According to the stat conversion thread in this forum, 30 agility = 1% dodge. At this ratio, 12 agility equals 0.4% dodge. Even with Blessing of Kings, it is only 0.44% dodge.
Can someone confirm this? When I made the comment about 12 agility, I'd found it to be 0.6% dodge by simply equipping and then removing my Ring of Emperor Vek'lor, which adds exactly 12 agility. Was I high, blind or is there something else here at work that I have overlooked? I had no buffs at the time.

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Old 02/02/07, 3:17 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Exigent
Originally Posted by Twid
According to the stat conversion thread in this forum, 30 agility = 1% dodge. At this ratio, 12 agility equals 0.4% dodge. Even with Blessing of Kings, it is only 0.44% dodge.
Can someone confirm this? When I made the comment about 12 agility, I'd found it to be 0.6% dodge by simply equipping and then removing my Ring of Emperor Vek'lor, which adds exactly 12 agility. Was I high, blind or is there something else here at work that I have overlooked? I had no buffs at the time.
http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewt...283517#p283517

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Get you some purple drank and slow yo roll.

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Old 02/02/07, 4:19 PM   #26
Ultramax
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Originally Posted by Exigent
Originally Posted by Twid
According to the stat conversion thread in this forum, 30 agility = 1% dodge. At this ratio, 12 agility equals 0.4% dodge. Even with Blessing of Kings, it is only 0.44% dodge.
Can someone confirm this? When I made the comment about 12 agility, I'd found it to be 0.6% dodge by simply equipping and then removing my Ring of Emperor Vek'lor, which adds exactly 12 agility. Was I high, blind or is there something else here at work that I have overlooked? I had no buffs at the time.
You were certianly high or blind because defense gives dodge too.

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Old 02/02/07, 5:38 PM   #27
Exigent
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Turalyon
Gah, I was blind! Thanks for the correction. Now I've got to worry about finding Large Brilliants :)

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Old 02/05/07, 10:36 AM   #28
Fnutt
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Earthen Ring (EU)
Does the threat enchant still actually say 2% threat? I would have expected this enchant to take the same hit every other %-based enchant or ability did to prevent it from scaling too well.

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Old 02/05/07, 12:12 PM   #29
 frmorrison
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Originally Posted by Fnutt
Does the threat enchant still actually say 2% threat?
Yes, it does. I guess when the devs nerfed Crusader and the like, they forgot that enchant.

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Old 03/03/07, 2:08 PM   #30
Rand
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Tauren Warrior
 
Illidan
I'm curious as to what gems people are using too. I suppose it depends what stat you might need at the time, but in general are people using Solid Star of Elune (+12 stam) for Blue slots and Subtle Living Ruby (+8 dodge rating) for Reds?

I used Shifting Nightseye's (+4 agi +6 sta) on a few Red slots until we got to Prince. His faster attack speed tends to eat up shield block charges too fast and crushing blows can sneak through before shield block CD is up (even with imp shield block). Boosting my avoidance with +8 dodge gems seemed to help prolong my shield block enough to where very few crushes got through in stage 2.

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