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Old 03/03/07, 2:29 PM   #31
Emily
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
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How would the ideal enchants/patches on gear differ for Paladin tanks? Mongoose vs +40 spelldamage, and so forth? +6stats vs 150hp?

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Old 03/03/07, 5:08 PM   #32
squiffy
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Originally Posted by Rand View Post
I'm curious as to what gems people are using too.
I'm starting to find that I'm looking at +8 hit gems.

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Old 03/05/07, 7:10 AM   #33
Rand
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Yea, I suppose once you reach ~490 def +8 hit gems would be a nice way to go for yellow slots.

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Old 03/05/07, 7:39 AM   #34
Juno
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I'm finding it a bit hard to figure out what to put on Wrynn leggings before my Timewarden gets blown to bits.
I can go with 3x12sta and get 36sta but loose out on the 6sta bonus to cover for the loss of stamina on Timewarden. I could go with 4agi/6sta or 8 dodge rating and 2x Enduring Talasite.
So 36sta Vs 4agi 8 def rating 24sta. Or 18sta and 8 dodge rating but -4agi. Leaning towards 36stamina now though. So wish there was a blue version of Regal Tanzanite.

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Old 03/05/07, 7:54 AM   #35
Hannes
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Maybe those +hit/+agi ones are quite useful as well :p

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Old 03/05/07, 10:04 AM   #36
Dots
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Originally Posted by Juno View Post
I'm finding it a bit hard to figure out what to put on Wrynn leggings before my Timewarden gets blown to bits...
I would go with 8 dodge and 2x 4def/6sta unless you really lack hitpoints. 18 sta for 16 def/dodge (which is almost the same for evasion) is a good tradeoff.

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Old 03/05/07, 10:30 AM   #37
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Originally Posted by Juno View Post
I'm finding it a bit hard to figure out what to put on Wrynn leggings before my Timewarden gets blown to bits.
I can go with 3x12sta and get 36sta but loose out on the 6sta bonus to cover for the loss of stamina on Timewarden. I could go with 4agi/6sta or 8 dodge rating and 2x Enduring Talasite.
So 36sta Vs 4agi 8 def rating 24sta. Or 18sta and 8 dodge rating but -4agi. Leaning towards 36stamina now though. So wish there was a blue version of Regal Tanzanite.
If you really want to be choosey you could take a look at the gems that drop in heroic Mech. I think there's a dodge/stam or dodge/parry gem from pathaleon (it's a purple gem).

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Old 03/05/07, 2:06 PM   #38
jb55
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Tauren Warrior
 
Azgalor
Originally Posted by Juno View Post
I'm finding it a bit hard to figure out what to put on Wrynn leggings before my Timewarden gets blown to bits.
I can go with 3x12sta and get 36sta but loose out on the 6sta bonus to cover for the loss of stamina on Timewarden. I could go with 4agi/6sta or 8 dodge rating and 2x Enduring Talasite.
So 36sta Vs 4agi 8 def rating 24sta. Or 18sta and 8 dodge rating but -4agi. Leaning towards 36stamina now though. So wish there was a blue version of Regal Tanzanite.
I'm probably going to go with a shifting nightseye (4 agil, 6 stam) and 2 enduring talasites (4 def, 6 stam). Overall you only lose a couple stam and you gain alot more avoidance.

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Old 03/05/07, 3:20 PM   #39
Dots
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Pandaren Warrior
 
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Originally Posted by jb55 View Post
I'm probably going to go with a shifting nightseye (4 agil, 6 stam) and 2 enduring talasites (4 def, 6 stam). Overall you only lose a couple stam and you gain alot more avoidance.
Totally agree with this but 4 agi is really horrible for a warrior. Either go all the way with an 8 dodge gem or just go all stamina. The epic dodge/sta gem works but then again it's also unique.

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Old 03/05/07, 4:00 PM   #40
Juno
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Originally Posted by Dots View Post
Totally agree with this but 4 agi is really horrible for a warrior. Either go all the way with an 8 dodge gem or just go all stamina. The epic dodge/sta gem works but then again it's also unique.
Mm, thinking of this, 4 agi is like 0.13% dodge so pretty crap. 8 dodge rating is around 0.43% dodge, so 0.30% difference vs 6stamina. Regal Tanzanite would be ace though, that's the 5 dodge rating and 6 stamina gem. 2x 4 def 6sta would yield something like 0.15% dodge, parry, block, -hit. None of it is really that great. The reason I'm leaning to 3x12sta is that Wrynn has less stamina, no replacement for Junior bracers yet and I'm at 20.69% dodge at the moment with 17.something parry.

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Old 03/05/07, 4:37 PM   #41
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You can try to grab a Regal Tanzanite off heroic Murmur. 5 dodge and 6 sta. That's what I put in my Wrynn's (and 2x Enduring Talasites).

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Old 03/05/07, 4:44 PM   #42
Fellwraith
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Originally Posted by jb55 View Post
I'm probably going to go with a shifting nightseye (4 agil, 6 stam) and 2 enduring talasites (4 def, 6 stam). Overall you only lose a couple stam and you gain alot more avoidance.
Each talasite is only worth 1.67 to defense skill, that's 0.20% more avoidance and 0.07% more block. That really doesn't seem all that hot imo (especially when you figure my armor will soak 55% of those hits, making that little amount of avoidance that much less useful). I'd have to be taking some astonomical amounts of damage after mitigation to make that better than ~63 hp. I can see the point of using it on the prince, but that's really about it.

Personally, I'd take the 12 stam on the blue spot and find something better for the yellow. Defense skill really isn't worth stacking heavily beyond 490. You can get a lot more mileage from pure dodge or parry gems.

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Old 03/05/07, 6:49 PM   #43
Dots
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Unfortunately those legs don't have a blue gemslot. Enduring Talasite is as good as it gets for a defensive yellow gem. Once you reach a certain level of max HP, I would always try to go for socket bonuses and such, 6 sta being a pretty nice one. On Timewarden's, 3x 12sta gems was an easy choice.

Btw parry rating is a lot worse than defense or dodge (0.27% evasion for a gem with 8 rating compared to 0,4% and 0,42%, respectively). It's also nice to be high on defense for certain resist fights.

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Old 03/06/07, 11:11 AM   #44
jb55
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Tauren Warrior
 
Azgalor
Well, then again, this is speaking from a Tauren perspective. I'm fortunate enough to have the extra hp to focus more on avoidance. I guess it's just preference.

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Old 03/16/07, 1:27 PM   #45
Fellwraith
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Mulack
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Sorry for the bit of thread necromancy here, but has anyone done any definitive testing on PPM for mongoose? My guildmate got the recipe this week, so I'm probably going to petition for a few voidcrystals rather than throwing 15 agi on my blazeguard.

If this has already been covered elsewhere please let me know, I didn't see it anywhere in my search.

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