The healing agro for ES charges goes to the target, it counts as their heal.

Hmmm. Thought I had all that done wrt that Ele 21st point. I'll take a stab at correcting that calculation. And done.
Noticed I missed out Elemental Focus too *fixes*

Ok, uploaded a fixed copy. If it's quiet at work today I'll try to add in all the talents in Ele/Resto (mostly so you can get the talent point totals) and add in some +hit stuff once I work out how I should impliment it (probably with a "mob level" variable).

LO is taken into account, but not as Crit. One of the advantages of having that "# of Casts" value is that I was able to put a multiply by 1+LO% calc on it, so it calcs as it works (ie: for every 20 casts, 1 of these will be a "double", and still account for crits on neither, one, or both of the casts when it procs).

[edit]Got the talent stuff in, and have added a basic +hit calculation. The only problem is how to model the hit chance. Currently I assume that any hit will not be resisted, and any "miss" is a full resist.
Shall upload it shortly[/edit]

Adjusted and uploaded.

Bink, like the spreadsheet. It's fun to play around with.

There's been some confusion with the Elemental Precision talent. Some websites still have it as +1% to hit. In game however, it's 2% to hit per talent with a max of 6%.

Also, I think your hit frequency based on level is a little off. From Maledict's post earlier in this thread:

If the target is +1 level compared to you: 95%
+2 levels: 94%
+3 levels: 83% if the target is a mob, 87% if the target is a player.
+4 levels: mob: 72% player: 80%
+5 levels: mob: 61% player: 73%

I think those numbers are right, never confirmed them.

Awesome, awesome, awesome. I so want to go elemental but (as I said in the other, enhancement-y thread) I can't justify it if there's not an enh. shammy ready to go. Not that I hate enhancement but I prefer hitting up a truer hybrid role with better gear overlap between damage and healing.

Silly question time: Is purification still calculated off base heal, or does it include +heal now?

it includes +heal, as does Healing Way- in fact, these two are multiplicative.

This actually makes shaman the best scalers in every possible way with +healing, and even so mana/5 is probably our best stat. damn our lack of mana recovery options....

I've been toying around with various Resto/Elemental builds with PvP (2v2 or 3v3 arena mostly) in mind. The only must-haves seem to be 4-5/5 Reverberation and NS. Other than that it's like a choice of either improved healing or burst DPS.

Earth shield seems nice in 2v2 when there are many popular combos that do not support dispells such as Pally/Rogue, Pally/Warrior, Druid/Rogue etc.

My only concern is that with the new Stamina and Resilience stuff that people will be stacking up on, the DPS provided by a shaman doesn't make the cut at all, and we're better off just healing. What would you guys spec in PvP? and what kind of partner would you pick up for 2v2?

I'm 11/0/50 currently and I'm starting to wonder, if Earth Shield not being an almost exclusive PvP toy right now. Yeah, I know it's a bit of exaggarated and ankward to say this, but after my first amusement about how brilliant 41 point talent did the shamans receive as their top tier restoration talent, we started to raid Karazhan.

Said that, my biggest problem is the amount for which the mobs hit for. We are not too deep into the instance (trying Romulo and his sweetheart right now), but even the trash started to hit for perverse amounts (Skelethal Ushers, anyone?). Obviously, only the tanks can endure this incoming damage for long. This makes Earth Shield an exclusive tank HoT tool, not really the heal and forget kind of stuff, because everyone else in the raid will be one or two shotted once they got aggro no matter what, even with Earth Shield on. Secondary use for Earth Shield is to actually heal and forget raid members (especially rogues) for collateral / splash damage, but in this case you can use Chain Heal more effectively 90% of the time.

All in all, I'm starting to think that Elemental Fury is a better option for obvious reasons. Improved Chain Heal and Purification is what a restoration shaman is all about: a healing powerhouse with above average damage output.

Don't make me wrong, Earth Shield has it's uses and does a quite good job when utilized. However, after some long Karazhan runs I do feel, that you can be a much more efficient member of your raid, if you are a bit higher on the damage side of things (talking about 21/0/40 at least). This was a really strong feeling of mine on the Moroes fight especially (and going to be on the Curator I guess, too).


Thanks Argrax for the great post, by the way.

Since our problem isn't damage or healing power, it is how we can sustain our mana, I think an elemental shield and a weapon enhancement that help with mana regen would really help us out.

Water shield is great, but it only helps if we are getting hit. In raids and groups where we just dps, we aren't really supposed to be hit. We could get an elemental shield that would give us X amount of mana per 5 while we have it up. Either this, or adding extra mana regen to water shield would be great.

And if we are restoration or elemental we aren't using our weapons. A weapon enhancement spell that gives us X mana per 5 as long as we aren't swinging the weapon would be a nice way to make us want to continue casting and not swinging our weapons for extra dps.

Both of these things won't really change our PVP and solo game, however it will help us and our problems with mana in groups and raiding.

Haven't tried it in Karazhan yet (damn DP >.<) but the fact that it adds ~30% of your +heal to each charge (I think it's 31-33%) it means that you get >300% of your +heal on a base 2700 heal that costs 900 mana (3 hp per mana), so with my current 911 +heal each charge goes for roughly ~600 (includes purification) for 6000 hp for 900 mana (6.67 hp per mana).

That's a pretty good reason IMO to have it (plus the whole causes agro for the person with the buff thing like PoM).