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Old 07/12/07, 12:52 AM   #91
galzohar
Bald Bull
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Darksorrow (EU)
It doesn't matter if you AOE or not, arcane potency is effectively a 3% crit increase. The reason for the multiple procs is simply (and only) the high amount of hits.

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Old 07/12/07, 1:15 AM   #92
Northerner
Great Tiger
 
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Troll Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
Well, not to quibble much but you can somewhat leverage combustion and clearcasts to produce an exceptional amount of crits at the same time in theory. In practice of course it doesn't play out well.

I'm just that guy though so carry on =)

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Old 07/12/07, 1:26 AM   #93
 Hamlet
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Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by galzohar View Post
It doesn't matter if you AOE or not, arcane potency is effectively a 3% crit increase. The reason for the multiple procs is simply (and only) the high amount of hits.
This is correct. Arcane Potency doesn't have any kind of nonlinear synergy with TLC.

If you AoE 10 targets 10 times, Arcane Potency causes 3 more crits to appear (one the one Clearcast spell), which is exactly the same as what you see when you shoot 100 spells at one target.


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Old 07/12/07, 1:33 AM   #94
Logun
Banned
 
Human Mage
 
Dunemaul
Originally Posted by galzohar View Post
It doesn't matter if you AOE or not, arcane potency is effectively a 3% crit increase. The reason for the multiple procs is simply (and only) the high amount of hits.
While Potency does come out to be a 3% with most spells, this is not the case for AM spam. AM has a "double dip" type feature. Clearcast/Potency will proc when mana is consumed, which is at the beginning of Arcane Missile cast, and will last through the next spell to consume the clearcast. Thus granting Arcane Missile spam 30% crit increase for 10 missiles or 6% over all.

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Old 08/09/07, 8:36 AM   #95
Nizari
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Saurfang
Ok there is a lot of talk about Mages here (guess they are the most popular caster crit class) but I myself am an Elemental Shaman...

I have been farming illhoof since our first kill and am Curious if anyone knows the number crunches for this.

On average atm I have 42% crit fully raid buffed, and cast at about 2 seconds (give or take with latency/Drums/Heroism)

I worked it out myself to be roughly 7 casts for a proc, and 14 seconds of cast time (in a desirable environment) So that is roughly 100 extra damage per cast?

Anyone back that up, or figure out just how much of a DPS increase that is?

Unfortunately this guy has been rather cruel, 5 months of zero LC drops... yeah

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Old 08/09/07, 9:34 AM   #96
Docjowles
Mr. Sandman
 
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Well, searching in this very thread for "shaman" gave me the following...

http://elitistjerks.com/364928-post61.html

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Old 08/09/07, 10:25 AM   #97
Nizari
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Death Knight
 
Saurfang
>.< I totally missed that.

Cheers

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Old 08/09/07, 5:01 PM   #98
Rasmfrackn
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Icecrown
Our elemental shaman just got this a couple weeks ago, and loves it. He's also got a ~40% lightning crit, but the especially interesting uses aren't from LB spam. An EMed CL that procs LO (love those acronyms) will indeed shoot 2 proc bolts. Also, and especially, Magma totem builds charges, as does flametongue weapon, since both can crit. (That last bit won us an OOM-fest attrition battle in the arena against 2 paladins with an unexpected burst.)

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Old 08/09/07, 5:09 PM   #99
subscience
Great Tiger
 
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Ner'zhul
Originally Posted by Rasmfrackn View Post
Magma totem builds charges
Just tested on a mob, this is not true. Flametongue and Lightning Shield will build charges, totem crits will not.

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Old 08/09/07, 5:31 PM   #100
Rasmfrackn
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Icecrown
Originally Posted by subscience View Post
Just tested on a mob, this is not true. Flametongue and Lightning Shield will build charges, totem crits will not.
Thanks. Guess I misunderstood what he told me.

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Old 08/09/07, 10:46 PM   #101
Xei
Don Flamenco
 
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Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by subscience View Post
Just tested on a mob, this is not true. Flametongue and Lightning Shield will build charges, totem crits will not.
Molten Armour builds charges too - its fun having melee duels outside raid zones and winning due to TLC and Molten Armour crits.

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