Hunter Spreadsheets -- In development - Page 102

Navras · 02/16/08, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by donsantos

Also for some reason three different /cast dont' work for me

That's because the first cast that procs the GCD would prevent the second cast to happen. In this case, Steady Shot would proc the GCD, and so Arcane Shot won't fire.

ranged · 02/16/08, 10:56 PM

Hello and thanks for the spreadsheet.

Curious if there is anyway you can add drums of battle to this for the 80 haste.

Most high end raiders use haste drums on every encounter. This 80 haste affects the outcome of everything within that final spreadsheet values.

Everyone in the group has them so they are always up. Can this be a constant buff in the spreadsheet? As of now im just making a custom item with the same stats as a current item and smacking 80 haste on it in the spreadsheet to accomplish this.

Also is bloodlust availiable am i missing it?

Using your spreadsheet i was really putting alot into gettign the dragonspine. But fully raid buffed on Teron im just not seeing a dps inscrease. I believe with haste pots and drums running +2 bloodlusts the DST procs are just overboard.

Im just lookign for more RAID specs out of the spreadsheet is that possible to add those or atleast the haste drums. Thanks!!

Sienna · 02/17/08, 12:31 AM

Today I was testing the proc rate of dragonspine, on the contrary to the assumed internal 40 sec cooldown on Cheeky's (you can change it I know) I witnessed Dragonspine proc twice in 23 seconds.

Bikiniwax · 02/18/08, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Sienna

Today I was testing the proc rate of dragonspine, on the contrary to the assumed internal 40 sec cooldown on Cheeky's (you can change it I know) I witnessed Dragonspine proc twice in 23 seconds.

I was always under the impression that the CD was 23 sec. It was posted here on EJ that it was 23 sec.

Cheeky · 02/18/08, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Bikiniwax

I was always under the impression that the CD was 23 sec. It was posted here on EJ that it was 23 sec.

I'll change the default in the spreadsheet.

Naryn · 02/18/08, 10:18 AM

I've noticed with v43 that if I try to change buff profiles in Excel I get an error that I'm trying to change a protected cell. The rest of the spreadsheet functions work fine.

Incidentally, Cheeky, I use the import feature whenever a new version of the spreadsheet is released, since I'm using all 10 profiles. Very useful.

Zediono · 02/18/08, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by Cheeky

I'll change the default in the spreadsheet.

From the testing I did in this same thread a few months back (post here), I found it to be 20sec internal cooldown for the DST. Unless the mechanic has changed, it should still be the same now. WWS log has expired tho.

Cheeky · 02/18/08, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by Zediono

From the testing I did in this same thread a few months back (post here), I found it to be 20sec internal cooldown for the DST. Unless the mechanic has changed, it should still be the same now. WWS log has expired tho.

So I will continue to leave it user-defined.

I wish I had one to test with.

aikiman440 · 02/18/08, 5:21 PM

First post and a big thanks, this spreadsheet has helped me a great deal!

On to my question. I have a Shifting Shadow Draenite (+3agi, +4stam) equipped on my shoulders currently. When I switch to a gem that matches the same socket (bonus is still achieved), but with higher agi (for sake of testing, tried a Delicate Crimson Spinel +10agi and a Delicate Blood Garnet +6agi), the dps listed actually goes down by a fair bit (about 10 Hunter DPS). Perhaps I am missing something regarding why that is the case?

As an FYI, I am using v43 but get the same results in v39 as well.

Thanks much!

Lybohske · 02/18/08, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by aikiman440

First post and a big thanks, this spreadsheet has helped me a great deal!

On to my question. I have a Shifting Shadow Draenite (+3agi, +4stam) equipped on my shoulders currently. When I switch to a gem that matches the same socket (bonus is still achieved), but with higher agi (for sake of testing, tried a Delicate Crimson Spinel +10agi and a Delicate Blood Garnet +6agi), the dps listed actually goes down by a fair bit (about 10 Hunter DPS). Perhaps I am missing something regarding why that is the case?

As an FYI, I am using v43 but get the same results in v39 as well.

Thanks much!

Are you perhaps deactivating your Meta gem by doing this?

Ragnar · 02/18/08, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by ranged

Hello and thanks for the spreadsheet.

Curious if there is anyway you can add drums of battle to this for the 80 haste.

Most high end raiders use haste drums on every encounter. This 80 haste affects the outcome of everything within that final spreadsheet values.

Everyone in the group has them so they are always up. Can this be a constant buff in the spreadsheet? As of now im just making a custom item with the same stats as a current item and smacking 80 haste on it in the spreadsheet to accomplish this.

Also is bloodlust availiable am i missing it?

Using your spreadsheet i was really putting alot into gettign the dragonspine. But fully raid buffed on Teron im just not seeing a dps inscrease. I believe with haste pots and drums running +2 bloodlusts the DST procs are just overboard.

Im just lookign for more RAID specs out of the spreadsheet is that possible to add those or atleast the haste drums. Thanks!!

Much easier way to do this. On the Gear page, scroll down to the blue Hand Adjust line and just type in 80 or however much in the column for Haste. You can easily add stats to see how it would effect your DPS, like manually typing in the value for the drums, or for heroism.

Evanescent · 02/18/08, 6:07 PM

Quick question, is the draenei racial 'heroic presence' taken into account in this spreadsheet? I looked for it but couldn't seem to locate it. I definitely factor in the 15.77 hit rating it grants when calculating my dps and was wondering if it was already included in the spreadsheet or not.

Lactose · 02/18/08, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by Evanescent

Quick question, is the draenei racial 'heroic presence' taken into account in this spreadsheet? I looked for it but couldn't seem to locate it. I definitely factor in the 15.77 hit rating it grants when calculating my dps and was wondering if it was already included in the spreadsheet or not.

Heroic Presence is included in the calculations.

aikiman440 · 02/18/08, 6:59 PM

Originally Posted by Lybohske

Are you perhaps deactivating your Meta gem by doing this?

That looks like what was happening (guess I hadn't scrolled up after testing things). It had counted as my 2nd blue gem.

Thanks!

Glaurong · 02/18/08, 8:02 PM

Regarding proc rates:

Proc Mechanics

Edit: Some known proc rates are at the bottom, also internal cools.