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Old 10/03/07, 6:11 PM   17 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #826
 Tsook
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My tests indicate that in 2.2 RED still applies to arcane shot, but as a special case. It's additive instead of multiplicative for arcane shot while remaining multiplicative for all other attacks.

http://elitistjerks.com/487245-post115.html

Nakari also tested this on ptr before 2.2 and his (her?) results agree: http://elitistjerks.com/482604-post101.html
 
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Old 10/04/07, 3:50 PM   #827
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Was wondering if Curse of Shadow is added in the spreadsheet. It increases dps of 1:1.5 rotations with imp arcane shot greatly.
 
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Old 10/04/07, 4:15 PM   #828
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Originally Posted by Gruknok View Post
Was wondering if Curse of Shadow is added in the spreadsheet. It increases dps of 1:1.5 rotations with imp arcane shot greatly.
It's already there. Target debuffs on the 'Buffs' tab.

 
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Old 10/04/07, 4:34 PM   #829
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On at least the Open Office version, Twinblade of the Phoenix is bugged; it uses the stats for the Twin-Bladed Ripper instead.
 
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Old 10/04/07, 5:19 PM   #830
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Originally Posted by Zurai View Post
On at least the Open Office version, Twinblade of the Phoenix is bugged; it uses the stats for the Twin-Bladed Ripper instead.
That is due to an alphabitizing mistake. I have changed the way lookups work to prevent these from happening in the future.

 
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Old 10/05/07, 12:29 AM   #831
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I'm completely new to this whole spreadsheet thing. When I tried to open it on my computer I got an error message (see below.)

File encrypted: C:\DOCUME~1\JB\LOCALS~1\Temp\Hunter_DPS_Calc.xls

Any idea what this might mean?
 
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Old 10/05/07, 12:42 AM   #832
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Originally Posted by Pakatak View Post
I'm completely new to this whole spreadsheet thing. When I tried to open it on my computer I got an error message (see below.)

File encrypted: C:\DOCUME~1\JB\LOCALS~1\Temp\Hunter_DPS_Calc.xls

Any idea what this might mean?
What program did you use to open it? There are portions of the spreadsheet that are password protected, but you should be able to open and use it in either Open Office or Microsoft Excel.

 
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Old 10/05/07, 11:03 AM   #833
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ah, that might be the issue. I have some generic spreadsheet program from Corel. :-/

are both of those programs things I have to go out and buy or are there any downloads?
 
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Old 10/05/07, 11:04 AM   #834
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OpenOffice is free, but does not support macros.
There is supposedly a OpenOffice version from Novell that does support macros, but it requires some sort of registration.

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Old 10/05/07, 3:22 PM   #835
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I noticed there seems to be a slight problem with the latency figure. It seems to apply against autoshots? This is most easily seen by setting the shot rotation to auto only, then changing the latency value. I believe I back-tracked it to the WeightShotsPerSecond value from the DST calculations, but got a little overwhelmed there =)

For reference, I'm using a 41/20 build, with an Hourglass & Bloodlust Brooch as trinkets, if that figures in.
 
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Old 10/05/07, 4:06 PM   #836
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Originally Posted by Fendryl View Post
I noticed there seems to be a slight problem with the latency figure. It seems to apply against autoshots? This is most easily seen by setting the shot rotation to auto only, then changing the latency value. I believe I back-tracked it to the WeightShotsPerSecond value from the DST calculations, but got a little overwhelmed there =)

For reference, I'm using a 41/20 build, with an Hourglass & Bloodlust Brooch as trinkets, if that figures in.
I apply latency to everything. Not sure if it matters on Auto Shot unless you macro-spam, but you'd have to be running a pretty high latency figure to see it on just Auto Shots. I'll think about it some more though.

 
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Old 10/06/07, 12:41 PM   #837
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Version 31

Version 31 (both regular and OO) is available.

I did not yet incorporate all the bugs found here, there were a few infrastructure changes I focused on. There is also a set of basic instructions which should get posted to the top of the thread soon.

Change Log:
- Corrected item stats ([Band of the Eternal Champion], [Fel Edged Battleaxe], [Grand Marshal's Chain Gauntlets])
- Converted gear matrix to use VLOOKUP instead of LOOKUP. This will allow for more features to be added later.
- Gear sets now save race, talent spec, shot rotations (all 4), and Pet details.
- Added ability to Export and Import all 5 profiles. This only loads them into the database, to see the information you need to Load the specific profile back on the Gear tab. The file CheekyHunterDPS.log is created/read in the My Documents directory.
- Corrected bug in calculating shot numbers for DST rotations.
- Renamed Shot Rotation buttons to better correspond with common naming.
- Changed MaxSpecials rotation to build 1:1.X rotations based on whether or not the user wishes to include Multi or Arcane Shots.
- Changed PriorityRotation to not allow clipping, but only sub in Arcane and/or Multi when the next Steady Shot will not clip because of GCD.
- Provide a 1:1.X rotation button for Quick Shots.
- Updated Scorpid Poison rank 5 to be 55 damage over 10 seconds.
- Changed the Spell Coefficient for Scorpid poison to be 0.1
- Moved custom target information in 'Settings and Results' tab. Display effective reduction values for both Hunter and Pet.

 
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Old 10/06/07, 3:30 PM   #838
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Main posts fully updated. Now includes a guide to using the spreadsheet.

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- Sam & Max
 
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Old 10/07/07, 9:00 AM   #839
Indora
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how can i delete this post? ^^

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Old 10/07/07, 2:12 PM   #840
Ernesti
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Void Reaver Greaves looses the sockets when you change them out for another leggings and then change them back.

Edit: Actually can't even change the gems on it.

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Old 10/07/07, 3:28 PM   #841
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Originally Posted by Ernesti View Post
Void Reaver Greaves looses the sockets when you change them out for another leggings and then change them back.

Edit: Actually can't even change the gems on it.
Is this for the Open Office version, or Excel? I'm not seeing any issue with Legs and sockets.

 
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Old 10/07/07, 4:26 PM   #842
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Version 33's Shot Rotation tab does not seem to properly plot 1:1.X rotations. Flipping Multi and Arcane on and off does nothing to the result. It continues to act as though only Multi is in use.
 
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Old 10/07/07, 6:13 PM   #843
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Originally Posted by Arvak- View Post
Version 33's Shot Rotation tab does not seem to properly plot 1:1.X rotations. Flipping Multi and Arcane on and off does nothing to the result. It continues to act as though only Multi is in use.
Yep. I had moved the cells around and not updated their locations in the code. I will get version 34 posted with a correction in the next few minutes.

Done:
- Fixed bug in 1:1.5 Shot Rotation
- Corrected VLOOKUP() problem with Dragonstalker's Belt.
- Corrected Item Stats (Spiteblade).

Last edited by Cheeky : 10/07/07 at 6:25 PM.

 
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Old 10/07/07, 6:42 PM   #844
Ishmaael
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Cheeky can you model Kiss of the spider please? Im assuming it's not modeled because when i swapped to it from bloodlust broach i lost around 40dps, which shouldn't be the case.
 
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Old 10/07/07, 7:20 PM   #845
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Originally Posted by Ishmaael View Post
Cheeky can you model Kiss of the spider please? Im assuming it's not modeled because when i swapped to it from bloodlust broach i lost around 40dps, which shouldn't be the case.
Can you provide me with the following for [Kiss of the Spider]:
PPM rate
Internal cool down

Then I can start to model it, but understand it will require a specific rotation while active, and I'm pretty loathe to add additional Shot Rotations, as they increase the complexity at a 2^n rate.

 
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Old 10/07/07, 7:39 PM   #846
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Originally Posted by Cheeky View Post
Can you provide me with the following for [Kiss of the Spider]:
PPM rate
Internal cool down

Then I can start to model it, but understand it will require a specific rotation while active, and I'm pretty loathe to add additional Shot Rotations, as they increase the complexity at a 2^n rate.
It's a "on use" trinket cheeky, not a proc one.
 
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Old 10/07/07, 7:58 PM   #847
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Originally Posted by Gurth View Post
It's a "on use" trinket cheeky, not a proc one.
Whoops! I'll look into adding some information for it. I'm not going to get too fancy with it though, since it is a very, very uncommon trinket.

 
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Old 10/07/07, 8:27 PM   #848
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yeah no hurry my overworked friend, its purely for nostalgia. Were running pug naxxes again and my hunter RL ninjad one this week, but with its droprate im still more likely to get exalted with ashtongue b4 i see it again.


edit: And yeah i just wanted a fairly rough analysis between it and the other trinkets i can get for a dps comparison.
 
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Old 10/08/07, 6:02 AM   #849
Ernesti
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Originally Posted by Cheeky View Post
Is this for the Open Office version, or Excel? I'm not seeing any issue with Legs and sockets.
Office 2007 version. Everything else seems to work out good.
 
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Old 10/08/07, 1:41 PM   #850
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How do I rename the set names? When I try and change the name it gives me...

The value you entered is not valid.

A user has restricted values that can be entered into this cell.
I tried to name the set... "Phase One Gear"


SCRATCH THAT: I found where you enter the names on the "Settings and Results" tab. Thanks and sorry!
 
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