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Old 03/16/07, 3:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Decent Configurable Chat/Combat Log Filtering Mod

Like a lot of people, I've got to the point where my chat log is full of messages I don't want, and I'm trying my best to keep it clear as much as possible, so I only see the really important messages. I would really like a decent mod that can filter messages out with particular detail - I don't mean censoring based on keywords or anything, but simply fine control over the types of messages that show up.

For instance, loot messages - I want my main window to only show the actual '[Player X] receives [Twill Vest].', but not the '[Player A] has selected Greed for [Twill Vest]', or the '[Player F] has rolled 35 (need) for [Twill Vest]', but using the default Blizzard UI I can only have all loot messages or none. If I have all of them on, they fill up huge swathes of the chat log, but if I have them off, I can't easily tell who has won what without switching chat tabs to my full loot display.

On a similar note, I want to filter my combat log as well. To see incoming heals, I need to turn on party buff spells, but then I see heals on all members of the group/raid, when (as a tank) I'd rather just see the heals on me. After a wipe where tank death was the cause (as has been on Maulgar quite frequently), I want to be able to scan through my combat log quickly and only see the important bits. That means showing heals on me, but not on anyone else. Unfortunately, all the combat log mods I've found seem to like reordering the combat log message structure to something along the lines of '[Golem] hits [You] [Bad Grammar] [200]'. Now maybe I'm just weird, but I've always thought that prepositions brought quite a lot to the English language, and I'd much rather have the combat messages displayed as they are now - In nice plain understandable English, but I haven't been able to find a mod to do this.

So, does anyone here know any good mods for this kind of thing? It seems like both issues are in effect the same issue, and should be solvable by one mod.

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Old 03/16/07, 5:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good point with the combat log addon.
I as well do not like these rather weird conversions, and I as well would like to see only heals on my own character and not for the whole group.

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Old 03/16/07, 5:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Moogul View Post
For instance, loot messages - I want my main window to only show the actual '[Player X] receives [Twill Vest].', but not the '[Player A] has selected Greed for [Twill Vest]', or the '[Player F] has rolled 35 (need) for [Twill Vest]', but using the default Blizzard UI I can only have all loot messages or none. If I have all of them on, they fill up huge swathes of the chat log, but if I have them off, I can't easily tell who has won what without switching chat tabs to my full loot display.
Blizz has exactly what you want, but you are looking in wrong place - check interface options for "Detailed loot messages" or something like that - if turned off it shows only:
'[Player A] has won [Twill Vest] (need - 99)'
 
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Old 03/16/07, 5:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Elhana View Post
Blizz has exactly what you want, but you are looking in wrong place - check interface options for "Detailed loot messages" or something like that - if turned off it shows only:
'[Player A] has won [Twill Vest] (need - 99)'
Is that a universal option? I want to have a 2nd (by default hidden) frame with all the gory loot details of who selected need and greed, and who rolled what, etc., so that I can look at it if necessary (I guess it's not that important but I like being able to find out everything if I have to).

Still, thanks for the tip, I'll have a look at it next time I log on.

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Old 03/16/07, 5:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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chatlog: Prat or SimpleChatMod
combatlog: SimpleCombatLog

Be prepared to do lots of config, till its like you want it. but the mods are capable of what you want.
 
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Old 03/16/07, 6:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Maybe I've never looked hard enough, but Prat (which I already use), has limited filtering capability, last time I checked it could only squelch a few set types of message (eg. channel join/leave messages). Maybe I need to update.

Similarly, the only time I used SimpleCombatLog I couldnt get it to output anything even approaching parsable grammar. Is there a new version that will leave the message format alone whilst still doing the filtering?

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Old 03/16/07, 6:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ehm, if you want hidden window with loot - make a separate chat window and output only loot there, but you want both at the same time - I haven't seen that anywhere

koaschten, OP asked for a mod that would leave messages intact, while SCL changes them

p.s. as a sidenote - can't you just disable some combat message types via default UI?.. I mean right click and disable all the 'damage to other players' etc?
 
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Old 03/16/07, 6:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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seems i misunderstood your aims in the first place :/
 
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Old 03/16/07, 10:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So I had a fiddle with the latest version of Simple Combat Log, you have a fair amount of control over the combat log output, in that there are format strings for each message, but that still limits you to the varients they have - for example, you cannot differentiate between first and third person, so conjugating verbs correctly is impossible.

Ie. for melee hits, I want something like 'You hit voidwalker for 4.' Unfortunately, putting that into SCL means that when I get hit, I get 'Voidwalker hit you for 4.', which obviously isnt quite right. Doing the reverse means I get 'You hits voidwalker for 4.' Also, as far as I can tell there's no way to turn off the per-term colouring (I'd rather have each row of the combat log the same colour, like the default).

Elhana - The default UI allows you to check and uncheck combat messages, but is limited by the pre-defined categories. Most notably, other players direct heals on me come under 'other players buff spells', but that also shows other players direct heals on other players, and other random buff spells. If I'm tanking a raid instance, I don't want to get spammed with raid healing in my combat log, but I either I have all the healing, or none of it.

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Old 03/16/07, 5:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Along the same lines, I'm trying to set up a combat log pane that helps me figure out why someone (usually the tank) died. I want to see incoming damage and healing. So far I've got the damage coming in part just fine, my heals show up great but I can't get other people's healing without lots of other garbage, am I missing something?
 
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Old 03/26/07, 3:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Any luck with this? I\'m looking for something along the same lines. Right now I have SimpleCombatLog setup to only show damage I take, heals I take, and damage I do. It would be great when learning fights to be able to change it so that I could get that same information about a main tank.
 
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Old 03/26/07, 4:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have actually started using EavesDrop in favour of a true combat log modifying mod. It serves my purposes almost perfectly, it allows me to see data only pertinent to my character in a very easy to read and quickly scan format and still click over to the combat log for more indepth data.
 
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Old 03/26/07, 5:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Wykydtron View Post
Any luck with this? I\'m looking for something along the same lines. Right now I have SimpleCombatLog setup to only show damage I take, heals I take, and damage I do. It would be great when learning fights to be able to change it so that I could get that same information about a main tank.
Do /scl show 2 (or whatever # you have it set to) goto watches set a Victim watch for your MT's name.
 
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Old 03/26/07, 6:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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On a similar note, I want a combatlog where I can see my healing done (to all targets i heal), all the damage on the main tank and all the damage i do (sup holy shock :>).
I seem to lack the brain to get simplecombatlog to do this tho, but I'm hoping someone already has a theme that does this and wouldnt mind sharing
 
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Old 03/26/07, 6:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Wykydtron View Post
Any luck with this? I\'m looking for something along the same lines. Right now I have SimpleCombatLog setup to only show damage I take, heals I take, and damage I do. It would be great when learning fights to be able to change it so that I could get that same information about a main tank.
Does anybody know if it's possible to set up EavesDrop to show damage that's not yours under the Target heading? I'd like to set up what Wykyd's trying to do within EavesDrop - so that when I'm healing a tank, I get more information than just my heals on him. Just playing through the settings menus, I have not found a way to get EavesDrop to show more information under the Target heading besides the damage or heals that you do to your target.
 
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Old 03/26/07, 10:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by chuckg View Post
I have actually started using EavesDrop in favour of a true combat log modifying mod. It serves my purposes almost perfectly, it allows me to see data only pertinent to my character in a very easy to read and quickly scan format and still click over to the combat log for more indepth data.
I second Eavesdrop. It has simple numerical values (The damage taken on the left side and damage down on the right) and you can mouse over the specific numbers to see what exactly it was. It uses proper grammar too! (I think... I haven't really paid attention to that.)
 
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