Is there a mod that tracks hidden cooldowns?

Copernicus · 03/29/07, 2:29 PM

Specifically, with Quagmirran's Eye, but there are other items with an invisible cooldown on their proc. The main reason I'm asking is because I've noticed that Counterspell can proc the ability and doesn't use the global cooldown... so on fights where I have the spare mana and can just add it in whenever the cooldown is up...

• Slake · 03/29/07, 9:17 PM

I'd actually thought a decent bit about this; it should be possible to track your buff gain messages and when you see a buff that pertains to a given trinket, start the "hidden cooldown" timer for that trinket; on the character screen you could have a cooldown graphic and everything.

Something less advanced, but no less functional, is to download my mod SpellWatch (soon to be hosted in the wowace svn!) and set up a timer for a self-buff with the right name and duration.

sp00n · 03/30/07, 4:08 AM

The problem with that is that you would have to know the length of the "hidden cooldown".

• Slake · 03/30/07, 3:38 PM

Well yes, but you would anyway for any other solution. It's not like we have a way of absolutely determining the hidden cooldown on anything; we can only note from combat logs that "it's never procced sooner than x seconds after a proc goes off" and make reasonable guesses.

• Cryect · 03/31/07, 3:26 PM

Originally Posted by Slake

Well yes, but you would anyway for any other solution. It's not like we have a way of absolutely determining the hidden cooldown on anything; we can only note from combat logs that "it's never procced sooner than x seconds after a proc goes off" and make reasonable guesses.

Well the addon itself might as well automatically figure this out on its own as well.

◊ Kyth · 03/31/07, 5:04 PM

Certainly, especially if it were just a "rough and simple" mod that someone wrote mostly for personal use, you could just assume 3x duration (Duration is gettable from the tooltip, yes?) for anything you don't have data for, and mark it in some way (different color?) as potentially unreliable.

And then the mod could be updated periodically as the cooldowns are confirmed.

• koaschten · 03/31/07, 5:29 PM

why would you need something like that, you could simply write down a mod that logs the last 2 occurences of an action and saves the time between if its smaller than the old value !? hence after some decent data-gathering you can safely assume the value saved is the hidden cooldown for the action.

◊ Kyth · 03/31/07, 8:20 PM

Originally Posted by koaschten

why would you need something like that, you could simply write down a mod that logs the last 2 occurences of an action and saves the time between if its smaller than the old value !? hence after some decent data-gathering you can safely assume the value saved is the hidden cooldown for the action.

Because whenever anyone new downloads it, or you reinstall wow, you have to begin the whole data-gathering process again. Which is fine if the data could vary from person to person, but it can't.

You could use that to support unknown cooldowns, but that's a lot of overhead to carry around for stuff "we" (the WoW community) already know.

• koaschten · 03/31/07, 8:51 PM

if i know the cooldown what would i need the addon for then? :X
simply add a custom warning in your spellalert addon of choice, you can even create a custom bar in bigwigs or whatever

◊ Kyth · 04/01/07, 5:22 AM

Originally Posted by koaschten

if i know the cooldown what would i need the addon for then? :X
simply add a custom warning in your spellalert addon of choice, you can even create a custom bar in bigwigs or whatever

For me (not that I have a use for this), having a symbol that shows me when the cooldown is *up* rather than when it's not is far more useful. Hence the issue with bars. And one-time warnings, if I don't see them, I may lose track of whether it's up or whether I missed it.

This is why ghost timers are so useful for locks in dotimer.