Forgive me if I'm re-capping covered ground here, but I gave up my search of the shit heap after page 10. Ive tried a host of raid frames, and havn't really found one that is comprehensive and responsive. Currently I'm using oRA2, bigwigs, and Xperl for raids, but I get the impression that Xperl is slow at reporting. IN the past Ive tried: CTRA, SRaidframes, Xperl, and Grid (although I had trouble setting it up).

I enjoy Xperl for its comprehensive coverage of all raid needs: health/mana, track your buffs, change colour if debuffable, out of range monitor, aggro monitor. As far as I can tell its downfall is its latency.

What Raid frames do you recommend, and why? Do you have links for set up and use that could be helpfull?

Any discussion is welcome ... :-)

Check out Pitbull
PitBull: New UnitFrame Addon

there's some extra addons you can get for it that may fill your neeeds. I'm very happy with it.

Combination of Grid + Clique

Yes, Grid is hard to configure, but any time invested pays back.
Clique is just the best click2cast i can think of, lotsa modifiers, keybinds etc.

What do you want raid frames for? What is your role in the raid?

As a Warlock raid leader I use Grid that I've customized to my use over the past couple months. It works well for me and meets my specific needs. I can definitely see hating it (at least in my current configuration) as a healer, so I think the perfect frames for you will depend a lot on what kind of information you're looking to get.

I don't have a great screenshot in action, but here it is with a raid getting ready for Gruul:

As mentioned, Grid is most definitely worth the time to get setup. The ability to concisely display the information you are interested in, and in a way that isn't flooded with other crap you don't want, makes it stand out from the rest.

It is a bit daunting when you first look at it, but once you get the basics down of what each menu is specifying, the rest is cake - just time to get things put where you want.

A lot of the time I actually use Grid as my party frames, and definitely prefer Grid to party frames in arena settings with it's easily-noticeable-yet-not-obtrusive way of showing debuffs that I need to get rid of.

Pitbull causes me to not be able to click certain parts of my screen, and for some odd reason only when I have that activated my mouse works only sporadically.

All problems related to mouse movement or clicking on my screen went away as soon as I revered back to Ag_uf (from pitbull).

I _think_ this is related to hidden raid frames being placed in the centre of your screen. I had a similar issue with ORA2 MT frames being in the middle of my screen, and unable to move them. Once I un-hide the raid frames I was able to move the ORA frames again.

YMMV but this fixed it for me.

Out of curiosity, I started using SRF when I switched to oRA2 and never really looked back (or around.) Why did you stop using them? I'm just looking to inform myself since I've never really looked in detail at what makes a raid frame mod good, bad, or mediocre.

I use my raid frames exclusively for healing/buff/debuff. I play a resto druid, so heal is my primary role. Sraid frames seemed ok, but the UI was rigid (text only I seem to recall, and altering layout for different applications was tedious to say the least (am I missing something with SRF?).

Perhaps I tried Grid at the wrong time, but I just didnt get how to read the bloody thing, its so unconventional that I didnt understand what it was telling me. Is there a thread or website with an extensive write up on its use?

Of paramout importance is minimal latency with regards health reporting for mine, and although Im entranced my Xperls refined and easy to operate UI, I cant help but think that it is slow compared to others.

http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid is the start of the documentation - what do you want to get it to do?

By default it shows vertical health bars, with various debuffs showing up as they appear.

SRF has a dropout menu very similar to Pitbull, I've never configured it via the command line. It was a little unconventional at first since I'd never used such a mod, but I got used to it + oRA2 + now Pitbull using that style of config, and once I changed the few settings I wanted I didn't have to touch it anymore. I'm looking to drop it completely and switch to the pitbull raidframes once the releases are stable enough.

I know this has been said in a few threads before, but I'll just state it again:

Not using Grid as a healer or raidleader or just as anyone who wants to have some sort of control/information who has what debuff (also non dispellable boss abilities) makes about as much sense as not using CTRA two years ago.

It's somewhat annoying to configure until you get to the point where it does what you want, but it's THE raidframes addon atm.

Despite all your suggestions for Grid, Im going against the grain and have provided my guild with access to RDX6. It seems to be a very clean and lightweight addon with enormous potential. The report latency is excellent, and it has one click functionality which improves your reaction time to no end. Not sure that I can justify the price yet, but its worth a trial.

You'll love it. I suggest that you take a look at the third party windows that Aichi uploaded as an OOBE for the Raid Healing Grid - its pretty similar to the Ace2 Grid addon, and makes for a great healing window for RDX. Pretty much most of my guild uses that a modified version of that particular window, even the DPS classes.

I use Pitbull for my 10 man raids (and unit frames), and grid for the 25 man stuff. I find that I want to know different things in a smaller group, like what spell people are casting, something I don't think grid can do.

Grid is great as a non-healer, but as a healer I always found it a bit too minimalistic. Yeah, you can set it to show what you want to know (or most of what you want to know) but it's compact to the point of diverting attention AWAY from it self.

Thanks Malan, being a complete noob Im not on top of the OOBE functionality as yet, so thanks for the pointer. Where do you generally look to download the OOBE's?

Im starting to get excited about the fact that one person can produce custom reporting windows and broadcast them to the raid ... particularly if you have some tech heavy members the results can be spectacular I imagine ... :-)

I'm using sRaidFrames myself but I was considering trying something else for a change as I find no matter how I configure them I use alot of screen real estate. I agree with the people who posted saying grid is fine for non healers but as a healer you want more information, that's what I also found.

If you have a kick ass raid healing UI setup please post a screenshot as I'm sure alot of people are looking to improve their UI as I am.

Odd... I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum. I feel Grid is hands-down the best solution for presenting exactly what I need to know in the most compact, concise manner. Who's being targeted by mobs, does he already have a heal incoming, are HoT's ticking on that guy, who's low on mana, who's out of range, etc.

Plus, it's customizable to show whatever important buffs/debuffs that are present on any given encounter.

Does anyone have screenies of Pitbull, Perfectraid, or RDX6 raid frames in action?

I used PerfectRaid for a very long time. It was wonderful. However it's been broken and partially updated since TBC that I gave up waiting for it. I'd love it to work again properly, but it's not there right now.

I spent a while using the ag_UF raid windows and hated it.

I found a little PerfectRaid "clone" called OzRaid that works just great. It's a lot like PerfectRaid in style, is pretty fast with refreshing, and hasn't given me any grief since I installed it.

If you liked PerfectRaid, but want to use something that works, try out OzRaid.

(PS: No disrespect to Cladhaire, it's a thankless task giving away things like PerfectRaid for free, and I have nothing but praise for the work that was done on the project, it's just that it's moving slower than _I_ need)

I've stuck with Grid through Naxx and into TBC raiding for these reasons:

* Support. Constant feature additions and bug fixes. Seemless transitions between patches.
* Plugins. Plenty of great modules to add features not supported by the primary authors.
* Customization. Can't beat the fact that I can show the information I want in the format I want.
* Compact. I have a 20" LCD monitor, but screen real estate is still important to me. Less clutter is better, and Grid delivers.

Once you've set up Grid to be visually how you want it to be and understand the information it's relaying to you, it is one of better raid frames for healers and non healers alike. Information about whether your target is OOR, has a debuff you can cure, has a Renew on them, is the target of a heal or is the target of aggro in such a small frame is very valuable for making good decisions when I have to heal.