The only workaround I can think of is to drag the file from WoW Logs folder to another, (one on your desktop for example) before you log your alt
Not perfect, but atleast you retain data to that point and start a new log from your alt, then merge the two logs after

Quite often I'll switch between my priest and paladin (and it doesn't break my logging), I still have full logs.

Splitting the log afterward is a pain in the ass though, best way I've found to do it is key off "your vamp" for my priest and "your flash" for my paladin (although that doesn't always work if I've been flash healing a lot on my priest, but since I play shadow that's rarely an issue).

Sorry for the vague info for this post but I'll be away from my wow computer for a bit.

I wasn't satisfied with the maximum range of 100 yards available in AutoCL. So I did a text search in the AutoCL addon directory for "100" and found a single file containing the value that it uses for the sliders. Simply changing the 100s to 200s in that file increased the range on the in-game slider to 200. I'm fairly certain that this works to set the log range to 200 but without a way of seeing what my combat log range is I can't check.

Just a quick thing I figured out the other night that I thought might be useful to others. AutoCL is great if you're trying to use WWS for every boss fight.

NM, I figured it out.

I have been looking into getting WWS running for the guild I'm in, Cataclysmic, however upon entering the /console set options to extend my combat log range it seems like it's not working (I /dueled and tested how far my log recognized the casting of the other player, it came to about 50 yards, very roughly). I'm worried this will cause incongruent data in fights where we spread over a long distance, Void Reaver and Lurker, things like that. Has this been a problem?

I checked my config.wtf and the settings are all set to 200, but in duels I can't see anything past that 50 meters. So I'm wondering do those settings apply only to the passive /combatlog, and can't be used otherwise?

Anyone been able to figure out how to take trash off WWS reports from combat logs that log an entire raid yet?

Question, how many people are suppose to record the combact log for WWS? Does it have to be say around 3-4 people or just one can do it?

Depends on the fight. If you're fighting in a confined area like Hydross, Lurker, Solarian, Naj'entus, Teron, etc., one person is more than enough. For fights that involve multiple "camps" in a large area like Al'ar, Kael, Supremus, Azgalor, you probably want one person in each area.

ok my ADD must be making it dificult for me...... i can not seem to find the WWS files for hosting them on my own site.

Right under the log listing it has a text field for Output Directory, that's where the directories for personal hosting can be found.

If you extend your combatlog to the max value (200) you will be able to cover most fights alone, I record all boss fights for my guild and never noticed missing data (we cleaned ssc and are trying kael' thas at this time).

You can use Violation with Violation_CombatlogRange to automatically extend the range and start recording when entering any pve instance, this way you do not have to remember to start/stop it every time.

Those parses are done with the new WWS2 beta client.

Well in my oppionion it should count for the caster to get comparable healing values as it costs mana and heals the raid. For this reason I upgraded my WWS client to get these values to the imo right members.

There are absolutely no issues sync'ing people in different time zones.

I typically use the following logs for a raid:
- my own (EST)
- rogue (CST)
- mage (PST)

with absolutely no issues.

If you are getting a sync or a wonky clock error, it is because one of the people you are trying to sync from has a clock that does not consistently count seconds, not because of the time zone. The mage I use to sync had this issue on her old laptop: there was a standard deviation of 0.7 seconds over a typical 4 hour raid.

I find that 2 people is typically enough for most fights; exceptions include most of HS, Kael'thas, and Vashj, just because of the size of the terrain and encounter. In those, I use 3-4 logs.

You can always tell by looking at the amount of new information added by each additional log. I find it goes something like:
- second log: 4.5-5.5%
- third log: 0.3-0.9%
- fourth log: 0.1-0.4%

At that point, who cares? :p

How do you find out who uses food buffs for boss attempts? Im familiar with a fair few tricks with WWS but havent figured this one out yet...

I recorded an entire night, nonstop, of Archimonde attempts (and all the wipe recovery/rebuffing in between) and was curious to check how many people used sta food. However as each archimonde attempt begins when combat starts (as far as the reports online are concerned) - and since all food is eaten before combat - we couldnt find a way to find up who gets any well fed buff before engaging.

Is there some easy way that I missed?

BigBrother will show you who has taken consumables.

I don't know of any good way to find it after the fact, but this should be good enough.

They're supposedly fixing the throttling of channels, in 2.3, according to the UI/Macro forums. The only catch with it however, is there needs to be 25 or less people in the channel.

I really enjoyed the Beta application. It was easy to upload, and the other functions of it were also nice. I hope when he comes back it gets picked up again.

The thing I also thought about. If the owner of the website is gone, and for how long, no one seems to know, and WWS breaks somehow, what will we all do then?

Initially, Blizzard limited messages on all channels and broke WWS. Around two days later, Blizzard did what you described and removed limits on guild and chat channels with less than 25 people and WWS was able to function again. On Tuesday during server maintenance, another filter was put in place, which is currently in place. This limits messages to chat channels (I'm pretty sure guild is excluded now) to 15 messages per 10 seconds for ALL chat channels. Again WWS was broken.

According to the UI & Macros forum, in 2.3:
As of now, WWS is creating it's own channel, keeping it hidden, and sending messages via SendChatMessage(); WWS often sends way more than 10 messages every 10 seconds. Though Blizzard does mention that messages will be sent eventually, timestamps in the WoWChatLog would be incorrect and I'm guessing that would have a negative impact on the functionality of WWS.

I have a few questions for those who have been regularly using WWS as a diagnostic tool. The experience and viewpoints of the people that regularly post on the Elitist Jerks forums led me to push for WWS implementation in my guild. Even though I'm "in charge" of gathering and publishing our raiding data, I still have little idea how to utilize this tool to its fullest (I have read much of this thread, along with other WWS information, but frankly, a lot of it is over my head at this point). Any experience and/or advice would certainly be appreciated.

1) How have your guild members responded to the use of WWS? I have a *feeling* that quite a few of the people in my guild take a look at the first page, see where they placed in damage done, and close the link. If others have had this experience or suspicion, were you able to change your guild mates views, and eventually get them to dig deeper into the WWS report in an attempt to truly analyze and improve their play? How?

2) When spending a night wiping on boss attempts, how do you choose to display or use the data recorded? Suppose your guild spent the evening attempting to down Lady Vashj. Upon calling the raid after 5 wipes, do you display the entire nights data in 1 WWS report? Do you display each attempt individually, starting with the first attack and ending with the last death? What about all of the buffs, flasks, elixirs, etc, that may be used by players before another attempt? I'm just not sure of the most effective way to use WWS in this situation.

3) What is the single most useful part of WWS when looking at the data from failed attempts to down a new boss, in your opinion? I can obviously see an enormous amount of information from each attempt, but I'm not exactly sure how to put the pieces together. I'd like to be able to draw a picture of where things went wrong, and how they can be improved upon as a whole.

Thanks!

2) If you use the web version of WWS (and you should) then it automaticly splits up boss attempts. It is a bit tricky to find pre combat buffs in those splits because they usually end up in either the previous attempt or in the "Trash" split. Checking for the use of mana pots is easy though, they show up as Restore Mana ticks.

3) How people die usually. Or when trying different dps strategies, checking the overall raid dps for improvement.

I'm generating the WWS for my guild since some time now, but it wasn't published for everyone, only the leaders had access to it. We recently switched to publishing it daily for everyone to see, and I admit that I feared the same thing, along with all the usual e-peen competitons and so on.

To prevent that, I created a tutorial to explain the basic stuff:

• What are the limitations of WWS (limited range, problems with "generic" pets like Shadowfiends, etc)
• What is the difference between Presence Time and DPS Time, why can you be first in DPS but not in Total Damage
• How you can isolate a specific attempt between multiple wipes. How to see who gained what from a given buff, who gained what debuff, etc.

For all those points, I linked some example links, referencing one of our recent WWS parses.
The result was as expected: no e-peen'ing, the usual number-crunchers playing with it, and so on. But some peoples started to analyse "their" result too, like "can I use my jugements more effectively ?", "hey, those mobs are weaker than I though, I should try so swap some gear here", etc.

So, even if now everyone is using it, I think it helped some peoples to improve themself a bit. But there are still a lot of people who don't care about it.

Ive got a WWS Problem - I hope someone can help. Im fairly competant using this mod so far, but cant explain this..... Heres a WWS of a recent Archimonde attempts for us: Archimonde - WWS

Now look at Archimondes debuffs:

However this is blatently wrong. Look at one of the shadow priests (Dunni) damage breakdown:

Dunni - WWS

So I can see here the shadow priest is using SW: Pain, but for some reason its not recognised on the boss debuff list at alll. Why is this?

The main reason im asking is because we had an archimonde kill tonight where Judgement of the Crusader (from our ret pally) was not recognised on the Archimonde kill attempt as a debuff to the boss and never appeared on the list either. Therefore people are wondering: 'Was it even put up in the first place?"

It appears that the buff/debuffs being recognised might be affected by whether the player reporting the wws (aka me) is currently dpsing the target. On the attempt I linked, you can see i did only 37 000 damage in the entire fight - I barely touched archimonde and almost no debuffs are registered. Is this co-incidence? Also, I never DPS at the start of archimonde fights (when judgements are initially put up) . Could this explain it or is there another explanation?