Jollygreengiant

I've been a big fan of WWS for yonks but have been going off it of late - support is, well, not always perfect and making changes is somewhat sleepy too...
Just of late i've been trying out World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis which seems to be making really good progress:

The graph tool is bloody magical, the uploader I have been finding to be a hell of a lot quicker and the on the fly "drag and drop" log editing is superb - random honest opinion
Would be interested to see how people are finding it - yes its only in Beta but it looks like it could be really useful...

 

Zorick

For me at least, it took place of recount and any damage meter I was running. Having it literally be updated with in minutes of leaving combat is what sold me on it. I'm interested to see how they expand it, because as you said, it's only in beta. I'm also wondering if you're going to have to subscribe to something to get the service.

 

• Miles

Ack, I still need to take the time to update the docs / faq a bit.


Expansion: yep yep, working on more shinies. The todo list is full of idea's, the forums is a wall of text crit exchange full of suggestions.

Beta: while we're still doing daily updates, you can't really call a product stable; but as far as I can see, the numbers are accurate and the past issues with pets were actually because we didn't guess at all and relied on SPELL_SUMMON's only. Downtimes are rare, we did a svn up + binaries upgrade + alter tables in like 5 minutes today ^^

Subscription: Not if we don't have to - if the ads are enough to pay the bills, no thanks; I'm specced techie, not beancounter, hate to deal with the invoicing and stuff.


If there are more questions, feel free to ask them here (I'm watching the thread, delivered daily in my mail) or on our forums.

 

mdn

I'll make a comment: World of Logs is incredible. Far and away the best log parser I've used yet, and I've been through WWS and WMO; I am really impressed.

One question: are you planning to let reports sit on your server without expiring? I do hope so, but I can also see the ramifications of doing such.

Again though, amazing job with what is available so far.

 

LittleHamster

Back to our original WWS. The Ulduar logs are now split into different bosses. (So someone is working on it). However, it doesn't recognise the "death" of Freya and Hodir. Also, the Iron Council isn't parsed properly. If you kill the first one you pull and and then wipe, WWS will see it as a boss kill. For example, you can end up with a parse of multiple Steelbreaker deaths.

I looked around on the site, and couldn't find a link to any forums. I am sure that exists before. I'm guessing the author really doesn't want any feedback from users.

 

nataku

WWS also doesn't parse the Mimiron fight at all. Considers it all to be trash mobs.

 

• Miles

Thanks for your compliments ^^

We're still looking at what's possible, but for the moment, it looks like that our capacity is around 6 weeks of logs unless we add more disks.

When the reserves run low, we'll start removing the oldest logs first (based on upload date), freeing up space for the new ones. The majority of the users won't bother to re-upload stuff, but if you need to review an old log, you can always upload it again.

I do plan to save up all revenue for more hardware (disk x4 first, and maybe an extra enclosure), but after paying the rent we're still in the negative; ah well, can't expect to break even after just two weeks, but we're getting closer every day.

Miles @ World of Logs - Real time raid analysis

 

Lollersk8er

World of Logs still misses a lot of options. E.g. I can't see, who did how much damage to a specific mob. I don't need to know how much damage the fireballs of all mages together did.
I have to use WMO alongside, even if the site is horribly slow. I pretty sure, that after a while your site will have more statistics available .

 

Balean

Missing the most Power Word: Shield and DIvine Aegis in healing done section (which WMO provides; BUT WMO is terribly slow as a page and in upload and the design of the page is almost worse than the WWS one

The Full report still includes the trash and there's no option for defeated bosses or all bosses only.

All in all a great tool which already outscored WWS, especially due to WWS updating problems.

 

Balean

That option is already there actually.

 

Lollersk8er

Oh, right. I didn't see the tabs at the tops .

 

latrine

On the topic of World of Logs, I think it's a great site but i've been redirected to other websites and it's asked me to download a pdf. Anyone else have that kind of experience?

 

Pelf

They're going through ye olde advertisement gauntlet with who they buy their ads from and what kind of ads they buy and which ads they block. It was likely just a bad ad that got through. They've done away with the interstitial ads because they were causing too many problems, at least.

I'd advise you to just turn on Adblock.

 

rbbrdckybk

Just want to throw in my compliments to World of Logs as well. I've been using WWS forever, and WMO more recently - and World of Logs blows them both away.

The graphs especially are amazing. I really like that I can see at a glance how long it took before a druid battle ressed somebody that died, how well our heroisms are lining up with the last 20% of a bosses's health, etc.

I've been running WWS in parallel for awhile as a sanity check, but I don't see much reason to continue with any other parser.

 

• tsigo

Basically the only advantage WWS has over WoL right now in my opinion is the Log Browser, and I'm sure WoL's will come along a bit more in the future.

 

• Mouce

That along with log merging, which is probably going to take them a while to implement.

 

Pelf

They're working on it currently, AFAIK. For now, if you don't mind a detour, you can run the WMO client and use it to merge your logs, then upload the result to WoL. Most of the logs that the WMO merger produces will import into WoL just fine.

It's a little bit morally questionable, but it works.

 

burghy

Would be nice to have absorbs separated from healing, mainly because absorbs are an estimate not the actual numbers. And yeah, the only reason I can see for wws atm is the better implementation of the event log.

 

Areth

Has anybody tried to upload a log file to WWS recently & noticed that the healing charts are empty?

Even character-specific healing abilities aren't showing up. If there's no problem, then maybe I've done something wrong, but it's always reproducible, even using different log files.

Here's a link: http://wowwebstats.com/nqk6mkurumqfi

Velvetine and Shamanicca were the healers... not a single chain heal, flash heal or PoM... interesting, no? It's one helluva group that can 8-man Ony 10 without a single heal being cast! For what it's worth, the log file does include heals cast by these toons.

 

Myriel

Wow Web Status has lost the majority of its market share as the preferred combat log parser because it hasn't been updated to match the tools provided by other sites, namely World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis . It doesn't look like it's even been updated for Ulduar yet.

I'm calling it.
Time of death: 10:43am.