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Old 12/30/09, 8:23 PM   #501
 Miles
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Afaik, there's no timekeeping application for WoL yet. There's no API page with the required data, but in WoL, the most efficient way to extract the data is via the survivability overview.

If the table cell is '-', the player was not present there. Times can be a bit more tricky, you have to extract them from the menu, the s/e parameter is in seconds, or just award 'time' bonus with fight participation count.

Miles @ World of Logs - Real time raid analysis

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Old 01/04/10, 9:29 PM   #502
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Silversmith: Apostasis (stasiscl but up-to-date) has an ability to dump into SQLite databases. That might make it relatively easy for you to get the information out of the logs that you want. I can't say I have ever used the SQLite side of it though. For your purposes however, Apostasis can be really quite slow parsing, so you might still find having WoL do the parsing and working on the HTML it gives you more efficient, despite the network overheads.

More generally, I'm the project owner of apostasis. It's being kept reasonably up to date thanks to the efforts of a few good contributors, and we're adding a few features as we go too. I've been reluctant to add priest shield tracking since it's just so hard to do right - the best one can do is approximate, and I'm used to accepting that my disc priests will not be coming so far up the meters. If Blizz fix the logs up to show it properly, I'll work on getting it added.

Methyl: Comparing combat logs, aside from the shielding issues, they're all about as accurate as each other, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Hats off to Miles and his crew - World of Logs is a truly awesome tool, and I have no shame in saying I think it's the best out there, even if I don't use it. Personally though, I think there's value in keeping a completely free parser going for the community. WWS died on us, and although stasiscl died on us too, we've been able to take it forwards thanks to that freedom.

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Old 01/28/10, 9:49 AM   #503
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I realize this is not 100% on topic and I apologize for that, but this feels like the place where people might have some insight on it.

I've recently starting logging for upload to WoL. Unfortunately, turning on the combat log causes a really big performance hit for me and I've struggled to find out why or if there is anything I can do about it.

I don't run a particularly nice computer, but it was very solid about 4 years ago when I first bought it and, more importantly, runs wow fine under other circumstances, including hectic 25 man raid situations.

My fps drops down to the low single digits anytime I am logging a boss fight. 10 man is better than 25, but still at best high single digits. Trash is better than boss fights, but also still much worse than without logging. Turning off logging immediately rockets my fps back up to 20-30 and I mean immediately, even mid-fight.

I'm reluctant to blame the hard drive writing since as I understand it the log only actually writes every 10 seconds or so in a busy boss fight, and what I'm experiencing is not a periodic hiccup but a consistent performance loss. On the other hand, it's the only thing that I can think of that is unique about combat logging. I'm also reluctant to generically blame my computers CPU/GPU/RAM since WoW runs so well otherwise, but logging may be particularly taxing on one element of the system that I don't know about. I've had trouble finding anything about it searching straight through google or going over EJ or the WoW forums. It would be surprising to me if this were something very unique about my setup though. I did tell my virus scanner to stay away from the WoW folder, although as far as I can tell it wasn't checking the text file every time it was updated anyhow.

One thing that occured to me is trying to make WoW log combat to a separate hard drive than the one that contains the WoW files and is probably also being used for any memory caching windows is doing. I haven't been able to find any information about how I might do that or if it is even possible. If anyone here knows how to do that I would be eager to try it out.

If anyone here has any direct experience with this, has any tips about improving the relationship of WoW and my harddrive or knows about any resources that might help me solve the problem I would appreciate hearing about them.

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Old 01/28/10, 2:41 PM   #504
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It's somewhat difficult to believe that the combatlog would be causing problems. Instead, I would check with your operating system and privileges. Try right clicking on wow.exe and running it at as an administrator.

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Old 01/29/10, 11:29 AM   #505
 Miles
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Harddisks in PIO mode kills performance, as the CPU has to set some bits in memory, loop and wait untill a status bit changes and read the result. Check it with [win]+[break] -> device manager -> IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers -> controller -> advanced settings. On an intel board, if that option isn't available, use the Intel Matrix Storage Console.

Otherwise, you can try copying around a big file and see if the CPU usage is unusually high, [ctrl]-c-v on WoWCombatLog.txt a few times works. Also, try disabling the windows search service (it tried to index my archive of logs) or any virus scanners.

Miles @ World of Logs - Real time raid analysis

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Old 05/31/10, 8:17 AM   #506
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We've been using WoL for ages in our guild and I love the way it presents the stats, both in the charts and the tables!
I'll probably keep on using it to but I've been looking for some other tool to get it more built into our guild site (joomla based)...

anyone know if there's a combatlog parser that generates some php code, hopefully saving it to a mysql db... Google have some nice chart API's to show the info with to?

As I said, I love the WoL info, but paying 80€/year is to much for our casual guild to keep the stats online

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Old 06/03/10, 8:11 PM   #507
sollaires
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CompareBot: Compare World of Logs Parses

Not sure if this is really the best place for it, but I didn't want to make a new thread for a relatively specialized web app.

Threw together another web app to compare parses on World of Logs against each other and thought the EJ folks would find it interesting/useful:

Kamigami Tools :: CompareBot!

Put in a couple URLs from parse details, wait for it to fetch the information, and then check out a side by side comparison of how you did against someone else in your guild or someone in one of the top guilds in the world. It's pretty open ended and can be used for a number of things:

- See where you fall short on getting on the meters
- Compare a trial against one of your current raiders to see if they're hitting their buttons enough (or the right ones)
- Compare your own performance week-to-week to see if you're getting better (or unlucky procs).
- Compare your raiders against each other to see where they can improve.

I think it's pretty useful since World of Logs doesn't have the ability to this kind of comparison on their own site right now. Hopefully you find it interesting as well.

Please let me know if you find any problems, want to see something added, or have anything else to say.


If you haven't seen it before, the other app I wrote is the WOL Top Parse Analyzer:

Kamigami Tools :: World of Logs DPS Comparisons :: Icecrown Citadel - Lord Marrowgar - 25 Heroic

This collects information on the very best parses from the last 2 weeks and summarizes DPS/HPS based on class/spec. It's updated every day and always provides an interesting snapshot of what the best players are capable of.

- seri

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Old 06/12/10, 9:59 PM   #508
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Many updates to CompareBot over the last week or so.

All bosses have initial support for significant debuffs (things that would help explain higher/lower DPS, etc) including LK normal and heroic. Sadly, bunch of the useful information on the LK fight either isn't easy to detect or is completely impossible to detect from logs.

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Old 11/08/10, 7:06 PM   #509
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I can't start a new thread as I'm still a newbie here. Just wanted to mention that I've made a perl script for merging combat logs. It's completely generic - it doesn't parse and produce a reduced output. It just produces a new log file in the right format, so you can throw two log files at it and get one out at the end, and use that with your log parser of choice.
It's up as part of apostasis - but as I said, you don't need to use it with that parser. The script can be downloaded from here

It's slow, bloated (uses a lot of memory), it needs you to have Perl, and has only been tested on one pair of logs to date. It may do funny things if you try to do anything party-specific with the logs, as the unit flags don't get made uniform when events are pulled from different logs. It won't deal with clocks that suddenly adjust mid-combat, and probably sucks in a couple of other ways too - but you can probably use it to patch a gap in whatever log parser you prefer to use without too much trouble.

It will tell you what it thinks the time difference between the log files is if it doesn't agree with what you say, but it's up to you to rerun it with that extra difference applied. I'll probably make that automatic when I'm more confident it's working.

If you try it and it does something wrong or unexpected, feel free to file a bug report at the apostasis site. Otherwise I hope it's useful in the remaining weeks of Halion before we all get back to the levelling grind.

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Old 12/09/10, 7:44 PM   #510
 Miles
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Phew. After fighting a few HTTP 500's (because I was an idiot when I wrote the code back then), the new bosses should be recognized correctly on World of Logs now. There's no recognition yet for Heroic modes, but if you have a log where you have those attempts, poke me and I'll get it added.

It shouldn't take too long I guess, as there are already Nefarian, Cho'gall and Al'Akir kills... Those 5 levels didn't really slow down people much compared to a standard content patch

Miles @ World of Logs - Real time raid analysis

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Old 01/06/11, 1:41 PM   #511
sollaires
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New expansion, new guild, updated tools! These were previously known as Kamigami Tools but I've moved to a new guild and have made sure everything is fairly up-to-date with Cataclysm (aside from the URL which will get updated at some point).

CompareBot has been updated with basic mistakes and significant debuff information from all normal mode fights in 25 man.

The World of Logs Top DPS analyzer is running against all new fights as well. I'll hopefully be adding a way to graph DPS across specs over time sometime in the nearish future.

There's also one new tool primarily aimed at guild leaders / guild recruiters.

Player Raid Achievements - Roll Initiative Tools :: Player Raid Achievements

Get a quick view of a character's raid experience by pulling their raid achievements and presenting them in a totally sweet color-coded table. Patch dates are used to determine whether someone finished content "on time" or got it at a later date.

This tool was created out of laziness when I got tired of checking through tons of achievements for trials and trying to figure out when they got a particular raid kill.

Feedback

I'm always looking for new ideas to implement or bug reports. Please leave comments or contact me via the tools site if you have any rants, raves, suggestions, or find bugs!

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