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Old 04/27/07, 1:50 PM   #51
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Hmm, can we use wildcards in marker.txt? Since you'll never know the timestaps.. (seems logical you can, just want to be sure)

edit: nvm
edit2: Anyone verified the garbage collection trick? Doesnt seem to work for me.

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Old 04/27/07, 1:54 PM   #52
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I'm suprised someone hasn't mentioned autocl. Its a mod that can both enable logging and change your combat log range when you zone in a raid instance.

I'm completely addicted to the hosted feature. I already have a blank check written out to lossendil for whatever paid features he might be planning.

EDIT: If anyone has a program that splits logs based on the date please, please post it. I'm sick of manually splitting log files because someone forgot to roll theirs for a few days.
 
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Old 04/27/07, 2:11 PM   #53
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A tip on assigning pets from a hunter thread:
Originally Posted by Quasi View Post
WWS has gone through a few updates to include pet damage and respective glancing rates.
Make sure to assign each hunter pet an owner. I usually "auto update" actors and manually look to see if there are any new pets or raid members that are not in my table. WWS is usually pretty good at catching the pet's owner, but if not you can manually select it from the drop down menu.

Hope that helps.
I know some of our raids have suffered from having 4 water elementals that can't be assigned, but at least hunter pets can be assigned fairly easily.
 
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Old 04/27/07, 2:42 PM   #54
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My raid group has 2 demo locks, and unfortunately both of our felguards are named "flaadhun".
 
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Old 04/27/07, 3:49 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Scheme View Post
You can force a garbage collection (/script collectgarbage("collect")), which will flush the log to disk
I'm playing around with getting a more generally usable WWS setup for us (we also would prefer not to use the hosted option), and am trying to force a flush to disk with zero success so far.

Only logging out works -- not the /script, not clicking on performancefu, not using "force a garbage collect" in performancefu, and not reloading my UI with /console reloadui.

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Old 04/27/07, 5:04 PM   #56
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How can I get output like the hosted version, e.g.:
http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=hh6ziu4rwfwlw

Using my local version?

The local version doesn't seem to distinguish between attempts on the same boss... and splitting logs by hand seems to be a LOT of work.
 
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Old 04/27/07, 5:14 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by alcaras View Post
How can I get output like the hosted version, e.g.:
http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=hh6ziu4rwfwlw

Using my local version?
You can't right now, although I have no idea what his long-term plan is.

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0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 04/27/07, 5:17 PM   #58
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Using the hosted feature lets him pick up advertising $, which is good for him being able to keep his work going. Offering extra features encourages people to host, which means more advertising $. Not a bad thing, cause if he wasn't supported in his efforts, we may have no WWS at all.

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Old 04/27/07, 5:29 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Cel View Post
Using the hosted feature lets him pick up advertising $, which is good for him being able to keep his work going. Offering extra features encourages people to host, which means more advertising $. Not a bad thing, cause if he wasn't supported in his efforts, we may have no WWS at all.
Makes sense.

Right now my plan of attack is generate the hosted one, and then use that as a guide to where I need to trim my logs. I like having a permanent history.
 
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Old 04/27/07, 10:06 PM   #60
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Lossendil has stated that there is no way to accomplish client side what he is able to accomplish server side with the reports, specifically splitting. I think its more accurate to say he really doesn't want to do it since I can think of several ways he could, but they would be a pain compared to just having the reports dynamically generated on a server he has complete control over.
 
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Old 04/28/07, 9:37 AM   2 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #61
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New version of the CombatLogSplitter.

Bit of error handeling added, better editing of marker.txt, commandline option to start reading at the end of the file.

Hope this is helpfull for anyone. Works as a charm for me last night.

[edit]New version posted in this thread:
http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=11
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Old 04/28/07, 2:57 PM   #62
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ive just recently picked up wws and am i feel ive gotten a fairly good grasp of it. I feel as though I'm missing something though, is there anyway to view when events are taking place. ie. if i want to find out when a mage takes a mana gem, or a healer takes a mana pot, or when a warlock applies his dots or lets them fall off. I see that there is a timeline feature, but this seems to be missing something. For example, humility's gruul wws report only has 3 events logged in their timeline (gruul hitting their mt, and two shadow word deaths hitting priests).

If anyone could clue me into what I'm missing id greatly appreciate it.

EDIT: i did some snooping around, seems like the feature i'm looking for is not implemented yet but should be soon . http://www.lossendil.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=551

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Old 04/29/07, 9:48 AM   #63
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I find sometimes members of my raid just won't show up at all. It's never constant who the person is and a search through the logfile shows that person was definitely present and dealing damage. Has anyone come across this problem?
 
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Old 04/29/07, 11:20 AM   #64
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Everytime you generate a report make sure you load the actors and review them first. Your missing players were probably not recognized as such and were treated as npcs.
 
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Old 04/29/07, 1:00 PM   #65
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Yes, I noticed they weren't there and added them as actors manually with no change in results.

Edit: Nevermind, I am an idiot. I had duplicates of the raid member in question. One was set to "mob". When I highlighted him to remove him, it also removed the corrected actor.
 
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Old 04/29/07, 1:24 PM   #66
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Perhaps it would be useful to have a list of marker spells that are known to work well? So far, I believe the following have been mentioned:

Sentry Totem (seems like the winner)
Underwater Breathing
Detect Invisibility
Mind Vision
Elune's Grace (NE Priest)
Feedback (Human Priest)

Did I miss any? Can anyone think of any more?

The option of using the hosted version to determine the split times, then basing your local trim on those times seems like a good alternative, and has the benefit of supporting lossendil via the ads on the hosted pages as well.

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Old 04/29/07, 1:49 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Asgorath View Post
Perhaps it would be useful to have a list of marker spells that are known to work well? So far, I believe the following have been mentioned:

Sentry Totem (seems like the winner)
Underwater Breathing
Elune's Grace

Did I miss any? Can anyone think of any more?

The option of using the hosted version to determine the split times, then basing your local trim on those times seems like a good alternative, and has the benefit of supporting lossendil via the ads on the hosted pages as well.
I expect Feedback would work as well.
I doubt anyone uses it especially on a raid.
 
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Old 04/29/07, 1:56 PM   #68
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Detect invisibility is hardly ever cast aside from those stupid ghosts in kara, Demon armor probably also works in a raid setting.

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Old 04/29/07, 3:02 PM   #69
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You can also use tradeskills. For example "You create Runecloth Bandage." Or a certain raid member who is afflicted by mind vision.

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Old 04/29/07, 4:04 PM   #70
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I have to be honest, I have reservations about people generating local splits if it's against the express wishes of the software's author. I realize it's more convenient to manage things locally, but if he's using advertising to generate revenue then it's kind of harsh to deprive him of that. That's a big IF though. If he just doesn't want to take the time to write the program so it can be used locally, that's another thing. Although I have a lot of experience dealing with intellectual property claims, I'm not familiar with IP and how it relates to software. That being said, I have no control over what people chose to do, but I thought I should mention it. Just something to keep in mind.
 
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Old 04/29/07, 4:38 PM   #71
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Originally Posted by The Iron Colonel View Post
I have to be honest, I have reservations about people generating local splits if it's against the express wishes of the software's author. I realize it's more convenient to manage things locally, but if he's using advertising to generate revenue then it's kind of harsh to deprive him of that. That's a big IF though. If he just doesn't want to take the time to write the program so it can be used locally, that's another thing. Although I have a lot of experience dealing with intellectual property claims, I'm not familiar with IP and how it relates to software. That being said, I have no control over what people chose to do, but I thought I should mention it. Just something to keep in mind.
I'm confused as to what possible basis for complaint lossendil would have against whatever methods people use to split the combat logfiles generated by WoW into manageable chunks. He'd have a basis if people got ahold of his source code, modified it to automatically split logs using some method other than the one already included, and released the modified version to the public.

But that's not what this is. This is people working around Blizzard's botched-up logging implementation.
 
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Old 04/29/07, 8:01 PM   #72
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Originally Posted by The Iron Colonel View Post
I have to be honest, I have reservations about people generating local splits if it's against the express wishes of the software's author. I realize it's more convenient to manage things locally, but if he's using advertising to generate revenue then it's kind of harsh to deprive him of that. That's a big IF though. If he just doesn't want to take the time to write the program so it can be used locally, that's another thing. Although I have a lot of experience dealing with intellectual property claims, I'm not familiar with IP and how it relates to software. That being said, I have no control over what people chose to do, but I thought I should mention it. Just something to keep in mind.
There's nothing wrong with manually trimming your log--that's what's been going on since the beginning of WWS. What's he's trying to do on the server-hosted version is develop some logic so you can just heave in your entire log from the night, and it automatically figures out what happened.

Answers to Moonkin questions:
0) Read the TTT/use the spreadsheet: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t66856-moonkin_pve_dps/
1) Maintain high DoT uptime. Use WiseEclipse.
2) Nothing beats 2T8.
3) Sometimes you cast many Wraths and no Eclipse procs. Deal with it.
 
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Old 04/29/07, 9:01 PM   #73
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Originally Posted by Arawethion View Post
There's nothing wrong with manually trimming your log--that's what's been going on since the beginning of WWS. What's he's trying to do on the server-hosted version is develop some logic so you can just heave in your entire log from the night, and it automatically figures out what happened.
I think I misinterpreted what people were doing, my mistake. My impression was that people were copying features from the hosted version to new executables in order to expand the functionality of the client version, but apparently that's not the case.
 
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Old 04/30/07, 12:43 AM   #74
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Originally Posted by Polleke View Post
New version of the CombatLogSplitter.

Bit of error handeling added, better editing of marker.txt, commandline option to start reading at the end of the file.

Hope this is helpfull for anyone. Works as a charm for me last night.
Hey Polleke, I tried your app tonight. I got as far as making one SplitLog1.txt, but it never seemed to pick up on my marker spell. I was using Ice Armor.

In my combat log, the line appears as
4/29 22:09:13.734  You gain Ice Armor.
In marker.txt, I have:
You gain Ice Armor.
I see 3-4 instances of "You gain Ice Armor." in my log, but it never splits. Am I just doing something dumb, or is there a bug? Thanks for any advice.
 
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Old 04/30/07, 7:11 AM   #75
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You probably placed a space after "You gain Ice Armor.". Post an exact copy paste of your marker.txt.
SplitLog1.txt did contain data?

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