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Old 05/21/07, 11:51 AM   #1
tr33hugger
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Reliable Debuff-Duration AddOn

Hello, i'm trying to find an addon that shows the duration of debuffs which are applied to any target of a given encounter. I am currently using NECB, but it's highly inaccurate to my experience and i can't customize it for only specific skills i need (in my case: faerie fire, mangle). NECB doesn't seem to reset the bar if i reapply a debuff before it expires, nor if any other player applies that debuff. Sometimes it does, but it's not reliable.
Are there any mods for this purpose, other than NECB? I know our 'locks have something similar, but i don't know if i can configure them to show my own skills.

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Old 05/21/07, 11:53 AM   #2
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If you'd read the patch notes or logged on to test, you'd have read or seen that this is going to be a default feature of the UI in the next patch.

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Old 05/21/07, 5:04 PM   #3
tr33hugger
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I just logged on PTR to check this out. Well it's not really what i was looking for. All you get is the debuff symbol below the targetframe slowly greying out. It's really not not funny to look for a specific symbol in a boss fight, where 40 debuffs quickly swap places.
Second, it only works with the standart unitframes as i observed, which i'm not going to use.

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Old 05/21/07, 5:09 PM   #4
Azgul
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Chronometer

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Old 05/21/07, 5:10 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by tr33hugger View Post
I just logged on PTR to check this out. Well it's not really what i was looking for. All you get is the debuff symbol below the targetframe slowly greying out. It's really not not funny to look for a specific symbol in a boss fight, where 40 debuffs quickly swap places.
Second, it only works with the standart unitframes as i observed, which i'm not going to use.
They added UI functionality to support it and mods like DebuffFilter will support it the second 2.1 hits.

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Old 05/21/07, 5:24 PM   #6
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I, like many warlocks, use DoTimer, and it's still my tracker of choice. I don't know what you're looking for it to track, but I know for sure that druid HoTs are working properly, and I think Moonfire/Entangling Roots as well (been a while since I last played my druid). I mainly prefer it because I find the Icon view to be much more efficent in terms of screen space utilization than just about every other timer, which all seem to prefer using bars.

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Old 05/21/07, 5:28 PM   #7
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I'll second DoTimers. It's by far the most accurate timer that I have used so far. I love that it splits up debuffs based on raid icons placed on the mobs as well. Makes it very easy to banish 1 mob and dot another (in example of course).

Very lightweight mod and you can configure it to do quite a bit. If I had to choose 1 mod to play with, DoTimers would be it, no question

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Old 05/21/07, 5:28 PM   #8
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Debuffs:
Chronometer, SpellWatch, DoTimer, DebuffFilter

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Old 05/21/07, 5:49 PM   #9
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Thanks, DoTimer and Chronometer both look pretty neat. Gonna test them and see what fits better to the druid

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Old 05/21/07, 5:56 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by tr33hugger View Post
Thanks, DoTimer and Chronometer both look pretty neat. Gonna test them and see what fits better to the druid
Be aware that Chronometer etc aren't going to track another person's application of Faerie Fire or Mangle - Chronometer also has this oddity where it will randomly lose the timer for Rip (I think that it only watches so many debuff slots perhaps).

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Old 05/21/07, 6:42 PM   #11
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I have this issue with DoTimer where it will miss Unstable Affliction fairly often and I don't really know why. Not only at the beginning of fights; a lot of times when i re-apply it the spell will show up on DebuffFilter but not on my DoTimer bars. Anyone know why this is/how I might be able to fix it?

EDIT: Other than this one small issue, DoTimer IS a great timer mod although I'm not entirely certain whether it works for things like Faerie Fire/Mangle (although I don't see why it wouldn't). I especially like how it will at least try to separate debuffs on different mobs.

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Old 05/21/07, 7:16 PM   #12
srg
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I don't have any problem at all with it missing UA. If it's not showing, check your combat log and make sure that it wasn't resisted. That is pretty much the only time it doesn't show it.

Only other exception to the rule is if you have 2 equal level mobs that are not raid marked and you are dotting them both, occasionally it gets confused. Then again while raiding how many times are pulls not marked

If you are having a problem with UA still, try maybe updating your version of DoTimers or you mentioned you are using a different timer mod. Disable the other one.

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Old 05/21/07, 7:19 PM   #13
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ClassTimer is a new ace addon that might do the trick for you.
It looks very hot, though it will only work once 2.1 is here.

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Old 05/21/07, 7:40 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by Eillee View Post
ClassTimer is a new ace addon that might do the trick for you.
It looks very hot, though it will only work once 2.1 is here.
I.E. tomorrow.

Melador> Incidentally, these last few pages are why people hate lawyers.
Viator> I really don't want to go all Kalman here.
Bury> Just imagine what the world would be like if you used your powers for good.

Clearly law school has done wonders for me.

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Old 05/22/07, 4:56 AM   #15
tr33hugger
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Can someone provide a link to ClassTimer? 'Though i doubt we will have 2.1 tomorrow, PTR is still running, and a few encounters still have to be retuned here and there.

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Old 05/22/07, 5:02 AM   #16
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As most of the good stuff lately, it comes from wowace.com.

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Old 05/22/07, 5:11 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by tr33hugger View Post
Hello, i'm trying to find an addon that shows the duration of debuffs which are applied to any target of a given encounter. I am currently using NECB, but it's highly inaccurate to my experience and i can't customize it for only specific skills i need (in my case: faerie fire, mangle). NECB doesn't seem to reset the bar if i reapply a debuff before it expires, nor if any other player applies that debuff. Sometimes it does, but it's not reliable.
Are there any mods for this purpose, other than NECB? I know our 'locks have something similar, but i don't know if i can configure them to show my own skills.

Odd, I use NECB and it shows Mangle/FF just fine - if you only activate the PvE bars you never see superfluous information. I've never noticed it fail to restart the timer when I reapply the debuff.

Having said this, I'd like to get rid of NECB as it isn't Ace compatible, I might give one of the suggestions here a try.

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Old 05/22/07, 6:01 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by tr33hugger View Post
Can someone provide a link to ClassTimer? 'Though i doubt we will have 2.1 tomorrow, PTR is still running, and a few encounters still have to be retuned here and there.
Check the main forum here, in the Dev chat thread.

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Old 05/24/07, 7:41 AM   #19
Asherett
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I have been using Chronometer for a long time and I am currently looking for a replacement. Main reason is that Chronometer only tracks debuffs YOU place on the mob, and that it does not refresh timers on fully stacked debuffs (5/5 imp scorch, for instance).

ClassTimer looks very nice, I haven't tested it yet, but the vital question of if it tracks ALL debuffs on the target (not just your own) is still open - the name of the addon itself and various comments on it's forum page would seem to say no

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Old 05/24/07, 8:55 AM   #20
Papajan
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DebuffFilter did a great job of this yesterday - I didn't even update it for 2.1 yet, and it shows the minutes:seconds left on the debuffs you're watching. (You tell it a list of debuffs and it displays them along with fade times in a separate little display)

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Old 06/04/07, 10:17 PM   #21
Pagarth
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Ok. I'm going crazy here. I want some good debuf timers that don't take up a lot of space, that work like Chronometer but also have dot timer functionality. Basically I want candybars that work for multiple targets that are semi accurate. Nothing exists like this. Chronometer doesn't allow for multiple targets of the same name but dotimer does. Classmeters is not even very dot friendly, it's designed by a rogue.

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Old 06/05/07, 3:05 AM   #22
Wodahs
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I use quartz, an ace2 casting bar, and it works great for tracking debuffs on target or focus target. Im sure this doesnt totally fill your need as you want multiple targets, but this works fine for my lock, hunter, paladin, and rogue. It uses the blizz api, and is quite accurate.

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Old 06/05/07, 4:09 AM   #23
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Does it track other player's debuffs or just my own?

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Old 06/05/07, 5:17 AM   #24
Pagarth
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yea it does.

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Old 06/05/07, 1:17 PM   #25
Uderhart
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Originally Posted by Pagarth View Post
yea it does.
Which one? I only seem to get it to track my own debuffs. Hopefully there's something I don't know bout it.

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