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09/28/07, 3:39 PM
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#1826
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Still alive
Human Rogue
Cenarion Circle
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It was LibParser-4.0, which is bundled with Pitbull. It actually had the correct behavior; the upgrade to it just exposed a bug in Threat that hadn't been visible before.
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09/28/07, 8:33 PM
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#1827
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Hell bent for leather
Orc Hunter
Lightbringer (EU)
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Good job Antiarc - my MTs where experimenting with Omen today after hearing so much about its many virtues - and the last thing I would want was for them to be annoyed with my pet hogging 1st place on the aggro list. ^^
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Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Igor, help me with the bags.
Igor: Soitenly. You take the blonde, I'll take the one in the turban.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I was talking about the luggage.
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09/30/07, 7:54 AM
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#1828
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Piston Honda
Human Mage
Auchindoun (EU)
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Antiarc - I've got a small request. While I think the Display-options are good - there's one thing I do miss.
I like to only show tanks and myself on the aggro-list. Since I'm not raidleading I don't really care too much about other peopls threat-levels.
So far I've just shown warriors, druids or paladins and that works out "okey". Since we run with multiple members of those classes it sometimes takes more time than I'd want it to figuring out how close I am on threat. (I sort of don't like glueing my eyes on a Threat-meter to often).
What I'd like is some way of manually typing in playernames. These names would then compile a list of names wich I could mark or un-mark. Typically we have the same people tanking every raid - but sometimes more or less of them.
Thanks for a superb job on an excellent mod by the way!
edit: Maby - it could be usefull if Omen forced always showing whoever had aggro. Then, if someone else than my filtered-named pulled aggro, I could still see the aggro-holders and act accordingly until tanks regain aggro.
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09/30/07, 8:55 AM
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#1829
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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Did you try the "right click name -> pullout bar" feature? 
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09/30/07, 10:54 AM
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#1830
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Piston Honda
Human Mage
Auchindoun (EU)
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Originally Posted by koaschten
Did you try the "right click name -> pullout bar" feature? 
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That is nice, altho it needs to be refreshed everytime I start a fight, correct? I'm not sure if it entirely helps me and the lazy part of me would cry during trash I guess.
There are fights like Gruul or Bloodboil where I don't want to be above a 2nd-tank. But still it's nice to see the MT-threat. Then also for the occasions of unforseen events where some role-shift could occur.
Last edited by Praanz : 09/30/07 at 11:01 AM.
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09/30/07, 11:14 AM
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#1831
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In the rear with the gear!
Worgen Rogue
Auchindoun (EU)
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I dont think the Pullout Bars are limited, you just have to drag them around. And created Pullout Bars are saved.
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09/30/07, 5:43 PM
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#1832
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Glass Joe
Troll Shaman
Zenedar (EU)
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Seriously, i don't know what was going on, but omen was bugged as hell the whole evening.
My friend only could see himself, while 10 min before that it bugged out it worked fine most of the time.
And people aren't showing up, i keep getting 90% warnings while i didn't even touched the mob, and people are showing up with 2k% threat.

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09/30/07, 10:11 PM
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#1833
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Von Kaiser
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A lot of those people in the screen shot you posted have * by thier names. It means that they are not using a current version or compatable version of Omen.
Have them update, and it should be much better.
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10/01/07, 1:57 AM
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#1834
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Antiarc
It was LibParser-4.0, which is bundled with Pitbull. It actually had the correct behavior; the upgrade to it just exposed a bug in Threat that hadn't been visible before.
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Thanks a TON for the fix, Antiarc, my raid group was ready to lynch me and my pet together! The few 5 mans I've done have been fine, I'll know for certain in tomorrow's raid.
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You pay for the whole chair, but you only need the edge.
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10/01/07, 2:25 AM
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#1835
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Glass Joe
Troll Shaman
Zenedar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Areus
A lot of those people in the screen shot you posted have * by thier names. It means that they are not using a current version or compatable version of Omen.
Have them update, and it should be much better.
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My friend and i had the version and he still got a * and he saw the * at my name aswell
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10/01/07, 4:53 AM
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#1836
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banned
Night Elf Rogue
Wrathbringer (EU)
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Are you still using KTM together with Omen?
Are you using embedded libraries or standalone?
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10/01/07, 6:26 AM
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#1837
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Von Kaiser
Brick
Undead Rogue
No WoW Account (EU)
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One of our maintanks was also geting the * beside his name. If i remember correctly disabling "Send to KTM" on his side fixed it.
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10/01/07, 3:00 PM
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#1838
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Glass Joe
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We still have a OT druid who, when switching to bear, fails to generate Threat in Omen. Any idea what is causing this? We all did a guild update last week.
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10/01/07, 4:08 PM
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#1839
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Still alive
Human Rogue
Cenarion Circle
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Originally Posted by Mega Boris
We still have a OT druid who, when switching to bear, fails to generate Threat in Omen. Any idea what is causing this? We all did a guild update last week.
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That's very odd. He shows proper threat generation when not in bearform?
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10/01/07, 4:26 PM
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#1840
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Antiarc
That's very odd. He shows proper threat generation when not in bearform?
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When he is in Cat form, we all see him generating Threat, but once he switches to Bear (or starts off in Bear, etc.) we see his threat stop and eventually he falls off the list. It has been making his tanking of one of the flames of azzinoth quite interesting!
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10/01/07, 10:02 PM
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#1841
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Piston Honda
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If it helps Antiarc, he appears on people's individual Omens until they perform an action on the mob. I can sit there and watch his threat grow, the moment I autoattack he stops registering new threat on my Omen.
As Mega Boris said, its only in bear form, cat form is completely fine.
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10/02/07, 11:56 AM
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#1842
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Now you're thinking with portals!
Undead Rogue
Twisting Nether
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Any chance of getting a "Always show agro gain" option?
On fights like al'ar where only part of the raid has threat limitations makes following threat really hard unless you have the bar pulled out. For example P1 Al'ar we'll have our sucker warlock, both shadow priests, and a mage or two at the top due to the lack of ranged threat. This of course makes my omen show: Warlock, Spriest, Spriest, Mage, Me (always show self on). I'd rather not drag out the bars because I don't have a good place to put it, and a simple "always show agro gain" that works exactly like always show self would do the trick perfectly :P
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10/02/07, 12:23 PM
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#1843
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Von Kaiser
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So far Omen has been extremely reliable in every fight for us, and resets fine when switching targets.
However, that is no longer the case on Illidan.
When p2 begins on Illidan and the Flames of Azzinoth spawn, the OTs generally keep the aggro they produced in p1, but everyone else resets. In p1 everyone is targetting Illidan, and in p2 he's not even targettable, and you move onto the flames.
Does anyone know how to prevent this, or is it even possible? A few random times throughout our attempts it reset a 10 seconds in, but it was a rarity. The line between maxing dps and pulling aggro on this part of the fight is razor thin, so any input would be appreciated. Basically you have to burn all your cooldowns/lusts VERY early into the phase and the thanks are in max FR gear so their tps is lacking to begin with. Maybe more people just need to update?
Last edited by Urraca : 10/02/07 at 12:31 PM.
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10/02/07, 12:35 PM
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#1844
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Von Kaiser
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Maybe your raid leader or just someone with (A) should manually reset Omen at the transition to p2?
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10/02/07, 12:39 PM
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#1845
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by surrender
Maybe your raid leader or just someone with (A) should manually reset Omen at the transition to p2?
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Someone claimed to be doing it, and said it wasn't working. I did the click request, and nothing seemed to happen. It could be that they are just slacking/ignant 
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10/02/07, 1:59 PM
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#1846
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Lightbringer (EU)
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KTM pets are not shown in Omen?
Maybe this question has come by before, but when a hunter, or warlock in my group has KTM and I have Omen, then only the player shows up in Omen, but the pet doesn't. But when that same player installs Omen and disables KTM, then all works fine and both that player and there pet gets shown.
I update Omen quite regulary, atleast once a week, so that can't be the problem.
Any ideas?
Last edited by denniz : 10/02/07 at 2:07 PM.
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10/02/07, 2:18 PM
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#1847
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Hunter
Laughing Skull
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Originally Posted by denniz
Maybe this question has come by before, but when a hunter, or warlock in my group has KTM and I have Omen, then only the player shows up in Omen, but the pet doesn't. But when that same player installs Omen and disables KTM, then all works fine and both that player and there pet gets shown.
I update Omen quite regulary, atleast once a week, so that can't be the problem.
Any ideas?
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New version 20.5a for KTM is out. The version before that was giving hunters all kinds of problems. Ask your hunter to get the latest KTM and see if that fixes it.
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10/02/07, 4:31 PM
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#1848
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Lightbringer (EU)
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Originally Posted by Bikiniwax
New version 20.5a for KTM is out. The version before that was giving hunters all kinds of problems. Ask your hunter to get the latest KTM and see if that fixes it.
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I just let my friend install the latest version of KTM (v20.5a), and his pet still doesn't show up in my Omen. If he only let his pet attack, then his pets threat gets added to his name. My version of Omen is r50185 with Threat v1.0 r50104
Does Omen somehow not see pets of people using KTM?
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10/02/07, 6:26 PM
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#1849
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Still alive
Human Rogue
Cenarion Circle
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Originally Posted by denniz
Maybe this question has come by before, but when a hunter, or warlock in my group has KTM and I have Omen, then only the player shows up in Omen, but the pet doesn't. But when that same player installs Omen and disables KTM, then all works fine and both that player and there pet gets shown.
I update Omen quite regulary, atleast once a week, so that can't be the problem.
Any ideas?
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KTM transmits only pet or player data, whichever is highest. It does not transmit both. In that case, KTM is "working as intended". Whether or not that's what you want is up to you. Even if you were running KTM, you would see the same thing that you are seeing in Omen.
If you want to see separate player and pet threat, then your groupmates will have to run Omen. KTM isn't capable of sending that information.
From KTM_Net.lua, in the threat transmission method:
myraidthreat = math.floor(0.5 + mod.table.getraidthreat())
-- if our pet has more threat, use his value instead
if mod.pet.petthreat > myraidthreat then
myraidthreat = math.floor(0.5 + mod.pet.petthreat)
end
Last edited by Antiarc : 10/02/07 at 6:36 PM.
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10/03/07, 3:54 AM
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#1850
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Glass Joe
Troll Shaman
Zenedar (EU)
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Originally Posted by Antiarc
That's very odd. He shows proper threat generation when not in bearform?
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When we were on al'ar, our mt druid didn't show up on threat list aswell on the adds, while he did show up on other mobs
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