800 TPS doesn't seem too unreasonable to me. Now that devastate applies sunder armor, the first 5 devastates add the threat of sunder as well (201 threat on top of what devastate normally does).

I'm still having this problem that I've been having for a couple of months now. My threat display seems to be completely incorrect at nearly all times. I'll still get the flashing red warnings when I reach my pre-set threshold, but I'll have people telling me to soulshatter on Kaz'rogal and I'll be 80k threat below the tank, with several people ahead of me on threat on my list.

Here's a screenshot of a recent Magtheridon pug.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6...7195528in3.jpg

Damage Meter is on the left, Omen on the bottom right. Even if DM was screwed up and completely wrong, I normally tie with Baneskwid on damage and we're miles ahead of anyone else on the meter, yet I'm showing to be 136k threat lower than him on Omen. I've updated Omen with every new version, even completely deleted the folder and reinstalled it, and nothing is fixing it. Omen has been almost useless for me for nearly two months because I can't get an accurate display of my threat. Any suggestions?

Hrm. That it's that consistently wrong is just bizarre. Try doing this: Next time you're desynched, after you're partway into a fight, execute this command:

/dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetThreat(UnitName("player"), UnitName("target"))

And see if the produced number is drastically different from your displayed number on Omen. That'll hopefully help me see where the issue is.

Edit: Also, try turning off "Shorten Numbers" in the skin options and see if that gets you the correct numbers.

Did both. Shorten numbers showed the same value in a different form, as expected, and the command gave me the same number that my display was registering.

When you say that you totally deleted the folder, did you then also remember the stuff in the WTF folder?

I've some problem with omen for several weeks.

Sometimes members of the raid disapear from aggro list and unfortunatly it's often the tanks.
When it happens it's general to the raid and other omen user has the same problem. The only things to do to resolve it is to log out / log in.

Has somebody the same problem?

The easiest way is to delete Omen and Threat from your Addons folder and then run WAU. Select File --> Cleanup WoW Saved Variables.

That way you delete all non-used savedvars in \accountname\ and in \accountname\server\character\.

Asa heads-up, Xinhuan tracked down an issue in AceComm that could have caused people with some map mods to not properly send threat data in raids as of 2.3. I committed a fix for AceComm today, which will hopefully address some of the issues that some of you have been seeing.

It appears that only the single target threat is being cleared on phase transitions during the Illidan fight. I have resorted to manually clearing the global threat values from p1->p2. I am not sure if threat is accurately being cleared from p2->p3, as I force reset it as he is landing just in case.

It has been reported but not fixed yet. When he lands after p2 (flames of azzinoth phase) the threat is not cleared automatically. Also threat does not clear at p3->p4, when he stuns everyone and has a dialogue with maiev (but I don't think it's a real threat clear).

Yeh, he maintains threat from the last phase. Which is why we try not to get him to 30% in demon phase because he'd go and punch our warlock in the face

There was a change in AceComm last night that broke Omen (and any other Ace mod that sent tables). It's since been fixed.

I see on your first post it says that it knows about threat enchants, but how exactly does omen handle the "2% threat to gloves" enchant? Is there an option you have to enable if you have this enchant, or does it just check it automatically every time you switch gear? Thanks.

It is checked each time you change gear wether you have that enchant on your gloves. Don't worry about it.

I updated Omen tonight, so I don't think this is an out of date issue:


I'm playing around with skins. I still have yet to find a threat display that I like, but I figure I can shoehorn Omen into what I want if I can make skin switching work.

The idea being for most fights I just want to see me and the tank. But I need to be able to, with a single button, switch to a 10-bar threat view if need be (e.g., staying below multiple tanks on Gurtogg.)

Unfortunately, when I switch skins either with /omen or with the menu, the title bar and column headers turn themselves back on every time.


Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?



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A random musing on threat displays:


In my continuing, fruitless quest to find a display of threat that I like, I actually had a realization tonight:

Threatmeters are designed to show your threat on a scale from 0 to 100. The problem is that I do not want to see my threat on a scale from 0 to 100. Frankly, anything much less than 80% after a certain threat amount might as well be zero; at that point I care about my threat from 90% through about 115%.

And I care about exact threat values only in so much as I want the delta between my threat and the tank at 100%, and the tank at (arbitrary other value -- probably 110%.)

Every threat meter out there treats every value from 0 to 100 (or higher, in omen's case) as equally significant, but that's not at all the case, and if I want to rely on a graphical display (which I do) I need to waste a lot of screen realestate on the first 80% of very large bars solely so I can have some graphical distinction at the end.


This problem also affects damage meters.


This is why I don't find the pullout threat bars terrible useful, nor the threat display that pitbull has. (Nor, probably, the one in mHUD, which I just downloaded tonight.) Although part of the reason I don't find the pullout threat bars useful is I can't read it with any precision like I can just two bars *not* overlapping.

I love the pullout threat bar, either when I'm on my mage or in a dps role on my druid.
I'm comfortable with the overlapped display, but I understand where you're coming from wanting two (or three, as you mentioned) separate bars.

Perhaps, there could be an option to have either an overlapped view or a separated view for the pullout threatbar.
I could see that being implemented as a simple checkbox (on/off) under the Display -> Skins -> Bars menu.

I don't know about the "I don't care about threat under X%" issue.
Do you mean you need screen real-estate, or are you looking for precision, or a mix of both?
I assume you want a more precisise view of your threat, which means you want to "zoom" in on the 90%-115% portion of the graph, ignoring the rest.
My only suggestion I have to offer is a "Ignore threat below X%", with X able to be set by the user, effectively setting the graph to display only people (or in this case, you and the tank) who have threat greater than 80% of the tank's.
Am I reading you correctly here?

The bug I'll see about fixing. However, Threat-1.0 was specifically written as a library so that enterprising folks could write awesome new visualizations for threat, so I openly invite folks to build new cool stuff with it.

I am having the issue of my threat being displayed too low on omen as well, ever since I updated mods for 2.3.2. Icy veins/trinket/combustion is fun times and I don't want to be careless with it because I don't see myself anywhere near the tank on threat.

Would the correct action be to download/install the most recent revision of omen? Is there anything else I should do to clean up problems with it?

EDIT: I downloaded the most recent version of omen from wowace before raid yesterday. My threat seems to be correct, but on Teron Gorefiend, we had our warrior MT him, and was not on anyone's omen, besides his own. He could read his threat on omen (and was calling it out in vent every 5-10 sec), but noone else could see it.

He had some lag issues and opted for our prot pally to come in and tank. I could see the pally's threat just fine the whole fight.

Okay, so, Omen doesn't seem to be doing much at all but display its window. The other night in a raid was the first time I noticed it(the night of the 2.3.3 patch), and ever since, its not sending nor receiving any information.

I've tried deleting Omen's WTF files, reinstalling Omen itself, and I've tried a past version of Omen(January 4th) reinstalling Threat 1.0, etc.

I'd guess that the problem is with Threat 1.0 though, as I'm getting no threat information with Recount, either.

I've checked on a few things, found that no mods are spamming enough to get in its way(in fact, I'm not even getting threat information when I click "Active When Solo" either), so thats out.



Edit before I post: I've reverted to the Threat-1.0-r58222.2 version of Threat 1.0, and its working again. Thats the 2nd January 16th build. Hope it helps.

Is there a way to make a macro which will cast a spell with no threat (as seen in omen/threat-1.0).

The situation is the following: You have two mobs of the same name, and you've reached your threat limit on one of them. You want to throw a couple of nukes at the other mob without Omen indicating that you'll pull aggro.

I looked quickly over the API and the only thing I saw was that you could tell threat-1.0 to deactivate publishing, but I think the threat would still show up on your screen.

I have omen set to auto size itself based on the number of players (It collapses down to just the column headings out of combat). After raiding for a while, it becomes possible to pull out threat bars even though Omen is collapsed and nothing is displayed. This is especially aggravating when I try to move omen and can't because I get a pullout bar instead. The only way I've found to clear the ghost frames is to reload my UI. Has anyone else experienced this? It doesn't seem to happen every time I leave combat, but it's frequent enough that I wanted to ask about it.

No, there is not. There is no way to distinguish threat levels on mobs of the same name. This will change with the 2.4 changes (but that's likely not until April, imo).

I think I understand the spirit of your question, though, so consider if you throw the no-threat nukes because YOU know you won't pull aggro. What happens when that target becomes the focus-fire target and your threat starts climbing? How would you know when you're going to pull aggro? Have another macro to add the 'missing threat'?

I wish I could do what you're asking about when I take my lock back to Kara for badges and helping alt runs, though! Two same-name mobs on <T4 tanks when I'm 5/5 4/9 causes my Omen to go crazy most of the pull.