"Enter World" lag. - Page 4

• Shalas · 06/21/07, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by sp00n

One observation I have made, why does the WAU throw all "sublibrabies" of a library compilation into a seperate folder? I don't want to have multiple BabbleXXX folders in my AddOn directory, I want them all to be under BabbleLib (or whatever it is called, can't remember exactly). That's currently the main issue I have with WAU.

By splitting them up, each individual chunk can be loaded as it's needed, instead of loading the entire thing. This can potentially save almost a second of login time at the cost of a cluttered addons folder, significantly higher memory usage, and potential delays due to Babble loading at far worse times than login.

Aranan · 06/22/07, 10:24 AM

Is one second of login time worth a "significantly higher memory usage", though? Much less the delays in the middle of fights from Babble.

• Chicken · 06/22/07, 10:29 AM

I'm pretty certain that was kind of his point.

• sp00n · 06/22/07, 12:21 PM

So where's the sense in splitting it up then, resp. providing it as splitted up as WAU does?
Is there an option to disable this feature?

funkydude · 06/22/07, 10:36 PM

Splitting the addons up into Load-On-Demand pieces lowers memory, it doesn't increase it, as less addons are being loaded.

For example when babble isn't split up into different addons, what if you have 1 addon that uses babble-boss? The rest is loaded, wasting memory and loading time. By splitting them into LoD chunks only the things that are required are loaded, (babble-boss) and the rest remain unloaded.

kovi · 06/23/07, 8:01 AM

Quote from http://rowne.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater :

"WAU will unpack (move the folders up a directory) any package it encounters, but you can create a folder <addonname>.nounpack to prevent it from being processed. You place it wow's addon directory like a mod, and it has the effect of disabling package functionality for the addon. So, you can make a Cartographer.nounpack and put it in your \Addons directory, and cartographer wont be unpacked."

Personally, though, I run all addons that have that feature in LoD-Mode and haven't encountered any delays midfight at all.

• Shalas · 06/23/07, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by funkydude

Splitting the addons up into Load-On-Demand pieces lowers memory, it doesn't increase it, as less addons are being loaded.

For example when babble isn't split up into different addons, what if you have 1 addon that uses babble-boss? The rest is loaded, wasting memory and loading time. By splitting them into LoD chunks only the things that are required are loaded, (babble-boss) and the rest remain unloaded.

If they all end up being loaded anyways (for me, all but one babble module is used), the end memory usage is significantly higher, as there's a ~100KiB overhead per addon in the WoW addon system. Load time is increased, as WoW appears to create a new lua parser for each LoD addon (which doesn't take very long, but loading the addon itself only takes about .03 seconds).

Obviously if you're only using a little bit of it splitting it up is (slightly) superior, but in the case of something like Babble, you probably aren't using WAU (or disembedded libraries) in the first place if you're only a few pieces of it. The situation where it makes sense is something like Quartz, where there's a pretty good chance you'll be able to completly disable chunks of it.

bloodurst · 06/24/07, 11:56 AM

Ui developers found the problem and it deals with the unitframes and/or how the information in them goes through channels to get there causing other mods to be the "problem" at times.. X-Perl updated yesterday and haven't had a problem since.

Nitz · 06/24/07, 12:16 PM

I have this problem, even without any addon loaded.

• sp00n · 06/25/07, 4:39 AM

Originally Posted by bloodurst

Ui developers found the problem and it deals with the unitframes and/or how the information in them goes through channels to get there causing other mods to be the "problem" at times.. X-Perl updated yesterday and haven't had a problem since.

Do you have a link?

Originally Posted by Nitz

I have this problem, even without any addon loaded.

Without any addons, this is most likely a connection issue. Back when T-Online had problems with Blizzard's server hoster in Europe (can't remember the name anymore), I'd have a generally bad connection with high latency, and when trying to login, I would disconnect quite often due to packet losses.
Could also be your network card. Try following the (sometimes stupid...) advices on the official forums.

bloodurst · 06/25/07, 2:15 PM

I'm at work atm. I can't get on Curse from here but I'll link it when I get home.

ka · 06/26/07, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by sp00n

Do you have a link?

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...12673788&sid=1