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Old 06/08/07, 3:35 PM   #1
Cubeh
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Alternatives to Bartender3?

After having some problems with Bartender3, I would like some advice on any other custom bars there are available that people can vouch for.

I'm not too bothered about extra features, just as long as they are fully movable and relatively easy to use.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 06/08/07, 3:45 PM   #2
Pyre
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The three I hear about the most are Bartender, Bongos, and Trinity Bars. Maybe one of the other two will work better for you.
 
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Old 06/08/07, 3:56 PM   #3
Anaxo
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My bar preference is Bongos, since all I really want are resizeable movable bars. I tried Trinity Bars for a while and dislike the options setup. It was far too confusing and the methodology to choosing bar size, transparency, button arrangement, etc were inconsistent and far too complicated.
 
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Old 06/08/07, 4:22 PM   #4
TheSilverHand
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Trinity was my bar mod of choice until a GUI was incorporated. Now I can't seem to get it to configure the way I want at all. I tried Bongos, then tried Bartender3, and I've settled on Bartender3. Bartender3 just seems the most similar to the old Trinity, being able to turn on a "Configuration" mode and just drag and dropping the bar to where it should be (this very may well be part of Bongos, and I was just too much of a doofus to find it).
 
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Old 06/08/07, 4:43 PM   #5
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/bob to bring up the bongos window... I like Bongo's configuration much more than Bartender3, but Bartender3 is Ace and I was on a kick to get everything Ace to see how my performance would improve.

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Old 06/08/07, 4:52 PM   #6
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I always get keybinding errors when I start up with bartender 3. Don't suppose anyone has seen this before?

I preferred Bongos for the longest time ... but I also jumped on the Ace bandwagon.
 
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Old 06/08/07, 6:54 PM   #7
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I actually went the opposite way of a few people in this thread, going from Bar3 -> Bongos. I like how it's much easier it is to configure, as well as bars snapping in config mode. My only question (to slightly derail) is that I got the first working bongos as soon as 2.1 came out. Question is, does the petbar work on any newer versions? Unfortunately, my pet bar isn't working, which makes playing a hunter a little more annoying, hehe.
 
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Old 06/20/07, 6:11 PM   #8
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I used to use Bongo's, then as many here have as well, went all Ace. Now, I am back to Bongos. Ace is great, but Tuller writes some lean code, and the minor (if any) performance improvement I was getting wasn't worth the features and usability I was sacrificing.
 
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Old 06/20/07, 9:05 PM   #9
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On a related note, is there any way to get Bartender to display the lag bar, or a standalone lag bar addon?

It drives me nuts that people make addons disable part of the default user interface with no way to get it back. DAB used to do the same thing.
 
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Old 06/21/07, 2:42 AM   #10
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For those of you talking about Bongos, make sure you're getting Bongos2. Definitely a big difference there. The original Bongos is still around, and buggy as all heck. ^^

Personally, I'm a fan of Bongos2. I've tried Bartender3, and I'm considering switching to it simply because of the skinning options (CyCircled stuff), but Bongos2 is very easy to use and porting bar setups across characters is a cinch.
 
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Old 06/21/07, 7:48 AM   #11
Krag
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I use Nurfed actionbars, which are very configurable.

The bars can be a little tricky to set up until you understand how they work, but they do pretty much everything I could possibly want. There are though still one or two minor issues due to the way they work (my "biggest" issue being that you can't see if on-next swing abilities are queued as they don't light up).
 
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Old 06/21/07, 7:59 AM   #12
Dirich
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I used bongos2 since March, previously I used Bartender3. Now I'm back to Bartender3 because I felt like bongos2 were giving me some "casting problem". I'm not totally sure that was its fault, and not a lag problems, but it often happened to me to press an hotkey and no cast was put "in queue" (i mean, it was like I hadn't press it at all).

For customization i like bognos2 the most. Bartender3 doesn't support keybindings specific for every character, has a sucky paging system (it doesn't switch bars permanently, it works only when the switch key is on-hold, and that's useless to me because I can afford to display 4 bars, so I hotkey stuff in bars 2 with ALT and 3 with SHIFT (CTRL sucks a bit for keybinding, imo)... I want to switch my bars completely because of a change of gamestyle due to a change of the enviroment (BG, solo PVE i.e.)).

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Old 06/21/07, 8:26 AM   #13
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Anyone know of a decent way to get cooldown timers on Bartender 3, this is the one thing that annoys me about it I hate the clock thing with sparkle and prefer numbers (especially on my warrior).



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Old 06/21/07, 8:29 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Starbucks View Post
Anyone know of a decent way to get cooldown timers on Bartender 3, this is the one thing that annoys me about it I hate the clock thing with sparkle and prefer numbers (especially on my warrior).
I think OmniCC works with Bartender.
 
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Old 06/21/07, 9:26 AM   #15
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CoolDownCount also works with Bartender3
 
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Old 06/21/07, 11:41 AM   #16
Beerbaron
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Has anyone had problems with Bartender3 since the last patch? On my rogue alt, my kick (main cast bar at #6) works for about 2-4 minutes and then becomes unusable with the 6 key or with the mouse button. If I reload my ui, it works again for another 2-4 minutes and then breaks again.

Kick is the only talent that is having this problem and it occurs anywhere in the main cast bar (I've tried 7, 8, etc). I don't have any customized key bindings. I'll have to get a new bar mod if I can't find a fix.
 
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Old 06/21/07, 11:52 AM   #17
Mythological
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I am having the same problem, my maim (keybind or click) wasn't working at all, I could not even get a mouseover tooltip. In addition it spewed tons of lua errors to the effect of 'FuBar Blocked from using BT4Button:Enable()'. I downloaded new versions of fubar and bartender, so I'll see if it works now.

 
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Old 06/21/07, 12:36 PM   #18
 Anias
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Originally Posted by Beerbaron View Post
Has anyone had problems with Bartender3 since the last patch? On my rogue alt, my kick (main cast bar at #6) works for about 2-4 minutes and then becomes unusable with the 6 key or with the mouse button. If I reload my ui, it works again for another 2-4 minutes and then breaks again.

Kick is the only talent that is having this problem and it occurs anywhere in the main cast bar (I've tried 7, 8, etc). I don't have any customized key bindings. I'll have to get a new bar mod if I can't find a fix.
One of your addons is tainting a library that bartender uses, and preventing it from using secure frames (AKA combat actions). Possibly bartender itself is tainting, although I use bartender and do not see anything similiar, so it's likely another addon.

You can:

A - track down the offender and do him in.

or

B - update your addons daily for a few days and hope it fixes itself.
 
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