Healers tools - Page 3

Fulnir · 06/27/07, 5:16 AM

Originally Posted by Jehuty

Figured out it's a healer tool, so posting my request here :
I'm looking for an add-on allowing to measure the percentage of time inside (or outside) the fsr in fights.
I know of fsrt doing that, being then integrated in RegenFu, but last time i tried RegenFu in 2.1 it was bugged so not showing up at all (nor responding to any command).
Does anyone use such a thing?

If you use the Pitbull unitframes the manabar on your Player Frame will have the FSR pulsing in it. It's very cool imo and have been integrated in a very pro way!

Jehuty · 06/27/07, 5:36 AM

Originally Posted by Fulnir

If you use the Pitbull unitframes the manabar on your Player Frame will have the FSR pulsing in it. It's very cool imo and have been integrated in a very pro way!

Thanks! i'll try Pitbull out, hearing mainly good things about it.

Although, i already use an add-on (wish i remembered its name) to display when i'm going in/out of fsr, but i'm looking for some sort of recap that could tell me, for example : in this fight, you spent 45% of the time inside the fsr.
(yes, this is obvously to measure the impact spirit over mp5 could have in my gear choice...)

constantius · 06/27/07, 5:40 AM

I use RegenFu, a plugin for FuBar. It's effective, and gives you a rough guestimate of your II5SR habits.

I was surprised to see that on certain fights, I'm effectively in the 5SR ~ 70% of the time. This led to me emphasizing Mp5 more in my gear, and has made my longevity increase drastically.

Playered · 06/27/07, 5:42 AM

Perfectraid is also still a decent raid frame addon which I feel happier using than when I used Grid. You have the essentials of group/class orders, range check, customizable buff/debuff displayer, health defecit and other various goodies, its also simpler to set up and I prefer a row down the side of my screen to a box in the corner :P

Cephiros · 06/29/07, 1:54 AM

Personally, I've been using Clique + SraidFrames since a month and half before 2.0 came out. Use chronometer to watch my hots/dots. I've tested out Grid and I still might switch to it.

Fulnir · 06/29/07, 4:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jehuty

Thanks! i'll try Pitbull out, hearing mainly good things about it.

Although, i already use an add-on (wish i remembered its name) to display when i'm going in/out of fsr, but i'm looking for some sort of recap that could tell me, for example : in this fight, you spent 45% of the time inside the fsr.
(yes, this is obvously to measure the impact spirit over mp5 could have in my gear choice...)

Then it's Regen_Fu you need

Hiba · 06/29/07, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by mrgrimm316

What are people using nowadays for healing setup within the game?

I used to use "Healing Groups Suck", and loved it...

I'm still using HealingGroupsSuck. I tried last week ace2 addon called HealOrganiser, but had to revert back to HGS. HealOrganiser had 1 major flaw that prevented it's use for me: you could not save the persons, you saved only the titles. So if you loaded an old profile, the healers were not moved to the saved positions, but remained on the pre-load ones. This made for example setting up healing assigments for multi-phase fights like Kael impossible by 1 person. With HGS it always remembers the healer names and positions (even though they would not be in raid), so you could easily just update the few changes from previous raid. This saves at least a lot of my time, and usually healing can be sorted in few seconds when you come to the bosses next time.

Nomad_Wanderer · 06/29/07, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by constantius

I use RegenFu, a plugin for FuBar. It's effective, and gives you a rough guestimate of your II5SR habits.

I was surprised to see that on certain fights, I'm effectively in the 5SR ~ 70% of the time. This led to me emphasizing Mp5 more in my gear, and has made my longevity increase drastically.

Second vote for regenFu. It also has a detachable timer bar that counts down the 5SR.

Naboo5sec is another one, but regenFu is better imo. It has both the timer bar showing you the 5SR, as well as the 'recap'ish stats. (Including the comparisons of int/spi/mp5 with your current stats and 5SR percentages.)

Base · 06/29/07, 11:17 AM

The healers in my guild use Healbot. I have started to raid with my shaman alt now, but I am not too happy with the way you can configure healbot. I would like to try out other addons, however the main reason we use healbot is because it shows incoming heals on any target.

What addons do you use that also do this? I checked Incoming Heals however that seems to be limited to certain unit frames addons like Xperl. Is there a possibility to also get incoming heal info in Grid or Pitbull?

Jokie · 06/29/07, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by Base

What addons do you use that also do this? I checked Incoming Heals however that seems to be limited to certain unit frames addons like Xperl. Is there a possibility to also get incoming heal info in Grid or Pitbull?

If you're looking to see if there is an incoming heal then yes Grid will show you that. Pitbull will estimate the health of the target of your own heals during a cast if you're looking to see that. I don't remember if Grid defaults to Lower Left Corner for incoming heals or if I set that myself.

Sarutobi · 06/29/07, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by Jokie

If you're looking to see if there is an incoming heal then yes Grid will show you that. Pitbull will estimate the health of the target of your own heals during a cast if you're looking to see that. I don't remember if Grid defaults to Lower Left Corner for incoming heals or if I set that myself.

I believe that is the default.

As far as Pitbull's estimated heals are concerned though, I've become less and less enamored with it as time goes on due to the fact that it's very inaccurate if you're switching between multiple ranks of a spell.

Deris · 06/29/07, 2:11 PM

Quartz, and changing all of your healing macros to have a /stopcast built into it. Simply put the largest single healing increase, far beyond any item I could achieve - and I raid with ~100ms. If you raid with more than 300ms, it is absolutely *huge*.

Jokie · 06/29/07, 2:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sarutobi

I believe that is the default.

As far as Pitbull's estimated heals are concerned though, I've become less and less enamored with it as time goes on due to the fact that it's very inaccurate if you're switching between multiple ranks of a spell.

I agree. I know my 3 hotkey heal estimates on tanks vs others (due to blessing of light) and make my judgement calls based on Grid's deficit.

I'm headed back to the 2.1 UI thread tonight to clean up my ui a bit and remove some of the clutter. (Including Pitbull's estimation)

Akomos · 06/29/07, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by Deris

Quartz, and changing all of your healing macros to have a /stopcast built into it. Simply put the largest single healing increase, far beyond any item I could achieve - and I raid with ~100ms. If you raid with more than 300ms, it is absolutely *huge*.

For paladins, absolutely. Less so for druids, for sure, at least for my HoT style. It is funny how massive the DPS gap is though between /stopcasting casters and those without.

Also, regarding macros -- on my Druid I use this style (shamelessly stolen from someone in another thread on this very board) (warning: this is basic info but I figure I'll post it so macro-challenged folks can check it out):

#showtooltip Lifebloom
/cast [target=mouseover, help] [help] [target=targettarget, help] [target=player] Lifebloom

The way the macro system works, this casts lifebloom on the first conditional to evaluate true. So if I'm mousing over a friendly, it casts. If not, but my target is a friendly, it casts on them. If not, but my target's target is a friendly, it casts on them. If none of these are true, it casts on myself.

Oh, and picking the "?" icon for the macro and using #showtooltip makes it so that the button itself on your hotbar is the same as a non-macro'd spell. Particularly nice for DrDamage (or Theorycraft) users like myself.

Golpe · 07/02/07, 1:48 PM

Akomos,
You macro is great. I just set up my 6 healing spells on the macro you posted and works wonderfully. I couldn't be happier.

Additionally to everyone else,
I've recently been trying to use GRID and it keeps bugging my PC out when i enter into Karazhan. I do use other mods and my PC is just a Boxed PC from Best Buy (1G RAM, Pentium D 3.0 Ghz i believe, and some ATI vid). Once i turn GRID off, my PC tends to run fine. Is there any other mod out there that is similiar to GRID or that people use instead of GRID? I don't like Clique because i use hotkeys.

Thanks