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Old 07/25/07, 9:43 AM   #501
Farei
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Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by Farei View Post
Humm...

Just downloaded the latest version r44757 (not updated it since before synch) and it´s throwing errors at me from login. The error it gives me is:

Interface\AddOns\Recount\Sync.lua:167:AceComm-2.0: `SetCommPrefix' must be called before sending a message.

If i click OK, the box keeps coming back. Am I missing something that I should download or is this some slip up in the latest version of Recount?

To answer my own question... I deleted and reinstalled fresh all of Recount, Ace2, GratuityLib and RangeCheck-1.0. Then the errors went away on their own. Just deleting and reinstalling Recount didn't work so it must have been something to do with the library files.

Keep up the good work Cryect
 
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Old 07/25/07, 2:28 PM   #502
madrussian
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Am I the only one still having issues with Recount syncing for 5+minutes after the fight has ended? Its pretty annoying
 
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Old 07/25/07, 3:10 PM   #503
Cryect
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Originally Posted by madrussian View Post
Am I the only one still having issues with Recount syncing for 5+minutes after the fight has ended? Its pretty annoying
The issue is with people who've got old versions which need to upgrade. If you could do /recount verchk and tell me the versions people are using and I can just blacklist anyones that are potential issues).

Originally Posted by Atheuz View Post
I'll ask again seeing as I got no answer to my previous question.

Recount is using obscene amounts of memory(up to 10-30 MiB) after having a lot of information, say in a raid or in Alterac Valley - Is this normal? I'm thinking of replacing the addon because of this, because it's the addon that uses the most memory, nearly 50%.
As has been responded, if the amount of memory it uses bothers you disable some of the data it records (goto the config window and uncheck some items in particular the ones under the stopwatch).

Originally Posted by Yuma View Post
Minor thing that may or may not be an easy fix...

The font replacement addon ClearFont2's default replacement font shifts the details page vertical location by a bit. That is, the crit %, hit%, etc, values. This is the only place I've seen an issue with text placement.

Not sure if its possible to do some sort of relative layout for said values, but briefly installing it would illustrate the issue.
I know what you are talking about hence why if you use the built in Font Selection those fonts don't change. I'm planning to address it but its not quite an easy fix.

Originally Posted by Fireye View Post
I've been trying to figure out how to display this information...

How can I display the amount resisted (not %resist) per spell, and not per type of magic (ie, shadow / fire)?
Sorry, thats not in yet in and needs to be added.

Originally Posted by Vonwen View Post
Ok so another issue regarding sync. I'm in a french guild, so people are using recount with frFR locale, and they sync french data, which means I have in my dps "Fireball" and "Boule de Feu" seperately. And still incoming data when ooc ;x

Could you add an option to disable sync ?
Oh my forgot about that potential issue. I will just have to set it up so you only sync with people of your locale.

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Old 07/25/07, 3:29 PM   #504
Edghar
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I apologize if this has already been suggested, but any plans for an HTML export feature?

Incredible mod by the way, keep up the good work!

Edit: Sorry there was a suggestion earlier, except it specified an XML export (so I missed it )
 
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Old 07/25/07, 3:30 PM   #505
Celandro
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I don't know if this is already in somehwere, but since you show dot and hot ticks, can you also track dot and hot casts then compare to how many casts were done and how many ticks should have occurred? This would give an OverHOT and OverDOT which would be useful for diagnosing early dot/hot renewal and overheal from hots. If this could be shown on the DoT uptime and HoT uptime meters that would be great.
 
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Old 07/25/07, 7:53 PM   #506
rogue9607
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First, this is a great addon.

I can't seem to get the Shift+left click graphs to work. All i get are faded red vertical stripes on the black background. There are items checked on the right, but no lines. The pie charts and real time dps graphs work just fine. I saw someone mention this issues earlier in the thread (long read) but no response. Elsewhere someone had a problem with graphs, and the suggestion was to download the GraphLib. I see some graphs, so i don't know if this is my problem, and if it is, i'm not sure where to put the lib.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 
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Old 07/25/07, 7:57 PM   #507
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This may sound obvious, but are you certain you have time based data enabled for the things you're viewing the shift-click graphs on, and by the time you are checking, are you also certain it hasn't been auto-deleted if you have that option enabled?

Generally it's the simplest things that can cause issues like that, and this seems the most likely of the simple culprits.
 
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Old 07/25/07, 8:13 PM   #508
rogue9607
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I had Record Time Data checked for Self, Grouped, Pets, and Bosses. Since i was just killing random outdoor mobs, i tried checking everything in this column and still had the same results. I just see the black background with a feint red stripe on the background (seems like one per mob).

Thanks for the help so far!
 
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Old 07/25/07, 8:56 PM   #509
Veri
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In your latest release, you added (Overall), (Current), (Last) to the title and the text appears to be layered on higher priority than the buttons, and in order to click the menu buttons, you need to try and get the cursor between the letters. It's annoying, but nothing too big, more of a heads up.
 
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Old 07/26/07, 8:05 AM   #510
Rinced
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Hmm i think resetting is not clearing all data.
When i log in and Recount hasn't done anything it uses like 200 - 300 KiB. After some recording and some resetting, after a reset Recount uses 1 - 2 MiB although it shouldnt have any tracked data.

Is this working as intended ? And if it is, whats the reason ?

Yes i ran the garbage collector.
 
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Old 07/26/07, 8:27 AM   #511
Karandras
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Hello,

First of all, thanks for writing this Addon, I love it.

But I have some questions/feature requests also:

.) Would it be possible to implement a simple voting system for resetting all data via a the sync channel? And/Or maybe resetting the data when first entering that pecific instance that day.
.) /recount verchk writes "Showing Versions" in the messages window, but nothing else. Do you have any explanation? This has never worked for me, regardless of the locales other people use in my group/raid.
.) I'm using the enGB client, but as I'm playing on a german server most of my guildies are using the deDE client. Will there be a sync between all locales in the future?
.) When is the sync channel operating? In Groups or in raids, or both?
.) Some guildies will use recount only when it is localized. I'm not that good in writing lua code but tell me where to start translating and I will dig trough it.
.) I love that graph who tells me why someone died, but unfortunately I can't resize it at the moment.
.) Maybe you could compact the death-report a litte that everyone sees on the first glance what happended., ie.:
Phedara (@4500) -2300 (normal) - Boss (or Ability)
Phedara (@2200) +1500 - Paladin1 - Spell
Phedara (@3700) -3800 (crushing) - Boss (or Ability)
Phedara dies.
.) We use Omen in our raid, so I have installed it too. As you bundled Threat-1.0 into recount, how do you handle the Thread-1.0 updates?

Thanks,
Kara
 
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Old 07/26/07, 10:08 AM   #512
Khydaris
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Stormrage
First of all, great addon.

Sorry if this has been a know issue, but I just installed this addon yesterday and I can't seem to make the Graph Windows to work.

All I see is an empty grid. I ckecked the "normalize", "Integrate" and "Stack" cases in different combinations with no success.

Maybe I overlooked something in the activation of this functionnality.
 
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Old 07/26/07, 12:35 PM   #513
nfw
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I tried it out last night. But when I click on somebody's name to get detailed info, that window gets stuck on the upper left corner and I can't close/move it.

I had to do /console reloadui to make it go away.

I downloaded it from the link in this thread so I assume it's the latest.
 
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Old 07/26/07, 1:33 PM   #514
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After some raids I can confirm that all problems I had with my French client have gone, using FixLogString (and the opp dep you had).

So maybe I could suggest you to add FixLogString in the libs directory of Recount ? Because every French client needs FixLogString, and many of them are not aware of that problem.
 
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Old 07/26/07, 1:58 PM   #515
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One thing that would be super useful in the death recap that I didn't see last time I checked -- parrys done by the killing mob. A lot of the deaths due to burst damage on a tank are caused by someone being in front of the mob and causing parries messing with swing timers, and it would be an awesome addition to be able to immediately debug a "tank just dropped dead" scenario with respect to parries.

Pretty much every brutal combo on a fight like Mother that I've later debugged was caused by her parrying someone, but it's unclear when looking at the death recap what's causing it -- it just looks like a bunch of hits all super fast:

7/25 00:27:27.328 Mother Shahraz hits Diskordia for 8862. (272 blocked)
7/25 00:27:27.828 Mother Shahraz hits Diskordia for 9125. (272 blocked)
7/25 00:27:28.375 Mother Shahraz hits Diskordia for 9146. (272 blocked)

Thats 27133 damage in 1.047 seconds, and was caused by at least one parry between each hit.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 12:00 PM   #516
Cryect
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Originally Posted by Celandro View Post
I don't know if this is already in somehwere, but since you show dot and hot ticks, can you also track dot and hot casts then compare to how many casts were done and how many ticks should have occurred? This would give an OverHOT and OverDOT which would be useful for diagnosing early dot/hot renewal and overheal from hots. If this could be shown on the DoT uptime and HoT uptime meters that would be great.
Can't track casts for anyone but yourself :-/

Originally Posted by rogue9607 View Post
First, this is a great addon.

I can't seem to get the Shift+left click graphs to work. All i get are faded red vertical stripes on the black background. There are items checked on the right, but no lines. The pie charts and real time dps graphs work just fine. I saw someone mention this issues earlier in the thread (long read) but no response. Elsewhere someone had a problem with graphs, and the suggestion was to download the GraphLib. I see some graphs, so i don't know if this is my problem, and if it is, i'm not sure where to put the lib.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Try clicking one of the red rectangles. Sometimes its zoomed out too far due to the autodelete function and it won't display any data (bug I need to find and fix)

Originally Posted by Veri View Post
In your latest release, you added (Overall), (Current), (Last) to the title and the text appears to be layered on higher priority than the buttons, and in order to click the menu buttons, you need to try and get the cursor between the letters. It's annoying, but nothing too big, more of a heads up.
Thanks! So thats what was causing people to say the report button was too small.

Originally Posted by Rinced View Post
Hmm i think resetting is not clearing all data.
When i log in and Recount hasn't done anything it uses like 200 - 300 KiB. After some recording and some resetting, after a reset Recount uses 1 - 2 MiB although it shouldnt have any tracked data.

Is this working as intended ? And if it is, whats the reason ?

Yes i ran the garbage collector.
No, thats not working as intended thanks I will check it out.

Originally Posted by Karandras View Post
Hello,

First of all, thanks for writing this Addon, I love it.

But I have some questions/feature requests also:

1.) Would it be possible to implement a simple voting system for resetting all data via a the sync channel? And/Or maybe resetting the data when first entering that pecific instance that day.
2.) /recount verchk writes "Showing Versions" in the messages window, but nothing else. Do you have any explanation? This has never worked for me, regardless of the locales other people use in my group/raid.
3.) I'm using the enGB client, but as I'm playing on a german server most of my guildies are using the deDE client. Will there be a sync between all locales in the future?
4.) When is the sync channel operating? In Groups or in raids, or both?
5.) Some guildies will use recount only when it is localized. I'm not that good in writing lua code but tell me where to start translating and I will dig trough it.
6.) I love that graph who tells me why someone died, but unfortunately I can't resize it at the moment.
7.) Maybe you could compact the death-report a litte that everyone sees on the first glance what happended., ie.:
Phedara (@4500) -2300 (normal) - Boss (or Ability)
Phedara (@2200) +1500 - Paladin1 - Spell
Phedara (@3700) -3800 (crushing) - Boss (or Ability)
Phedara dies.
8.) We use Omen in our raid, so I have installed it too. As you bundled Threat-1.0 into recount, how do you handle the Thread-1.0 updates?

Thanks,
Kara
1) I will not implement a reset vote option. Ideally once its done it will fully automate saving of fight data etc in a way that resetting doesn't make sense besides the initial one. Automated resetting on zoning is potential just have to figure out something for when you wipe and running back (guess track the ghost debuff)
2) The other players using updated versions? there was some version with a bug resulting in them not sending the message when they should
3) If I can figure out good ways to handle translations yes
4) It operates in boths
5) I will shortly begin to setup something for localization purposes which will be a localization.lua file that makes it farily simple for others to localize.
6) Yeah, it doesn't have resizing because I forgot to add resizing support to graphs in GraphLib besides realtime
7) More complex than it would first seem.
8) In theory, whatever version has the latest threat overrides the other (Ace2 handles all that magic)

Originally Posted by petoulachi View Post
After some raids I can confirm that all problems I had with my French client have gone, using FixLogString (and the opp dep you had).

So maybe I could suggest you to add FixLogString in the libs directory of Recount ? Because every French client needs FixLogString, and many of them are not aware of that problem.
Yeah, I decided to add a built in version that can be disabled if needed as well in the config options.

Originally Posted by Melador View Post
One thing that would be super useful in the death recap that I didn't see last time I checked -- parrys done by the killing mob. A lot of the deaths due to burst damage on a tank are caused by someone being in front of the mob and causing parries messing with swing timers, and it would be an awesome addition to be able to immediately debug a "tank just dropped dead" scenario with respect to parries.

Pretty much every brutal combo on a fight like Mother that I've later debugged was caused by her parrying someone, but it's unclear when looking at the death recap what's causing it -- it just looks like a bunch of hits all super fast:

7/25 00:27:27.328 Mother Shahraz hits Diskordia for 8862. (272 blocked)
7/25 00:27:27.828 Mother Shahraz hits Diskordia for 9125. (272 blocked)
7/25 00:27:28.375 Mother Shahraz hits Diskordia for 9146. (272 blocked)

Thats 27133 damage in 1.047 seconds, and was caused by at least one parry between each hit.
Yeah, agreed I just need to figure out a good way to integrate parries into the system.

Originally Posted by nfw View Post
I tried it out last night. But when I click on somebody's name to get detailed info, that window gets stuck on the upper left corner and I can't close/move it.

I had to do /console reloadui to make it go away.

I downloaded it from the link in this thread so I assume it's the latest.
You've got some sort of error occuring. If you could enable error reporting in interface options and tell me whats it reporting.

Originally Posted by Khydaris View Post
First of all, great addon.

Sorry if this has been a know issue, but I just installed this addon yesterday and I can't seem to make the Graph Windows to work.

All I see is an empty grid. I ckecked the "normalize", "Integrate" and "Stack" cases in different combinations with no success.

Maybe I overlooked something in the activation of this functionnality.
Is there any fights in the lower right side that you can click on? Try clicking one and see if it pops it up likely the same issue of zooming being messed up.

I need to do something useless.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 12:26 PM   #517
Fireye
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While this may not be nescessary, would it be possible to include a text document which details the text command options for recount (/recount), along with how to access those portions within the UI? I totally didn't know about the shift-click a players name, and had to come back and read the first post here to figure it out.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 1:42 PM   #518
Celandro
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Originally Posted by Cryect View Post
Can't track casts for anyone but yourself :-/
Could you track it if they were running recount and sync it? Or at least track it for yourself? My wife has been known to do rediculous heal numbers by using renew and prayer of mending but its very difficult to compare her heaing and overhealing with this method to others using normal methods. Shamans and priests look very bad on heal meters due to hard to track spells like PoM, PW:S and ES, I'd love to be able to quickly compare healers without having to include the MT on the heal graph.

Other random raid leader things (Yes I know some of these may be hard/not possible)
Disable tracking of Out of combat healing as it skews the numbers after a wipe.
A 'Life Saver' tracker that only tracks heals that hit players at <50% health
A 'Shield Block Fuckup' tracker that tracks crushing blows that hit when shield block was not up and not on cooldown.
An 'Attacking from front' tracker that tracks %of attacks that are blocked/parried
A "late interrupt' tracker that tracks interrupting attacks that do not interrupt spells and hit <1s after a spell finishes casting
A consumable usage tracker that tracks what potions are used

I'm sure there is more. I know some of these things may cause lag but Im pushing over 100fps in most raid situations, I can spare cpu cycles to track these kinds of things.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 2:44 PM   #519
Cryect
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Originally Posted by Fireye View Post
While this may not be nescessary, would it be possible to include a text document which details the text command options for recount (/recount), along with how to access those portions within the UI? I totally didn't know about the shift-click a players name, and had to come back and read the first post here to figure it out.
One thing i like to do is have an ingame tutorial/help for learning the more advance abilities of Recount. The other is I need to set it up so you can right click also on names (while still keeping the key modifiers since they can be faster)

Originally Posted by Celandro View Post
Could you track it if they were running recount and sync it? Or at least track it for yourself? My wife has been known to do rediculous heal numbers by using renew and prayer of mending but its very difficult to compare her heaing and overhealing with this method to others using normal methods. Shamans and priests look very bad on heal meters due to hard to track spells like PoM, PW:S and ES, I'd love to be able to quickly compare healers without having to include the MT on the heal graph.

Other random raid leader things (Yes I know some of these may be hard/not possible)
Disable tracking of Out of combat healing as it skews the numbers after a wipe.
A 'Life Saver' tracker that only tracks heals that hit players at <50% health
A 'Shield Block Fuckup' tracker that tracks crushing blows that hit when shield block was not up and not on cooldown.
An 'Attacking from front' tracker that tracks %of attacks that are blocked/parried
A "late interrupt' tracker that tracks interrupting attacks that do not interrupt spells and hit <1s after a spell finishes casting
A consumable usage tracker that tracks what potions are used

I'm sure there is more. I know some of these things may cause lag but Im pushing over 100fps in most raid situations, I can spare cpu cycles to track these kinds of things.
PoM and Earthshield I've got a solution in mind on how to handle it though requires the users run Recount (most healers would love to switch though if it means their healing numbers look higher I know).
Life saver heals sounds like a good idea and easier to implement than my idea for saving heals (which is if I remove your heal would this person die within x amount of time).

Most the other stuff you are asking for will be good for implementation in some shape or form in Relog which is a combat logger. Its no where near the point of being usable. Another thing I want that you might be interested in is from the combat log creating a Markov Chain of player actions so you can see how players do whatever they do easily and succinctly.

I need to do something useless.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 3:00 PM   #520
Celandro
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As far as tutorials go, it would be easier and more user friendly to create a 'graph' button that would open up a new frame that would have a UI for creating all the available graphs. For example a drop down list with names and a drop down list with available meters and a button next to it that says show pie chart that when you mouse over gives a 'hint' that says you can do the same thing with click. Below that you have the same interface for creating a graph and below the same for creating a realtime graph. Then at the bottom you have a scrollable checkbox with peoples names and a drop down of the available graphs and a button to create the comparison graph. You can gray out those options that arent available and explain how to turn on the tracking to make them available.


Also change Integrate to Total and Normalize to Percentage. Id also split the tracking options and the frame color/font into seperate sub tabs.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 4:31 PM   #521
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Instead of a tutorial, I think all you have to do is make the different features of Recount visible through a mouseover tooltip. For example, mousing over a name would say "Ctrl+Click for time-based graph".
 
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Old 07/27/07, 5:03 PM   #522
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Wow, I saw the first picture and said "So what?" and then saw the pie-graphs. This will be outstanding!

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Old 07/27/07, 6:35 PM   #523
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Originally Posted by Cryect View Post
Is there any fights in the lower right side that you can click on? Try clicking one and see if it pops it up likely the same issue of zooming being messed up.

Yup, done all that, and the grid is still empty. The zoom can be for 5 secs or 30 secs, I still don't see anything.

I can post a screenshot if you think it could help.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 8:56 PM   #524
Cryect
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Recent Major Updates
-New Syncing System (yes again) and it seems to work well from my limited testing (its in the fashion of SWStats so all you get is Damage meters etc no details on the players)
-Summary Mode has had the bottom section redone so it can have fonts applied
-Summary Mode now hides unused damage types and expands the rest
-Now tracks resists on a per spell basis (in the detail mode under damage done)
-Many bug fixes and a couple memory leaks fixed

Originally Posted by Celandro View Post
...

Also change Integrate to Total and Normalize to Percentage. Id also split the tracking options and the frame color/font into seperate sub tabs.
Comments noted.

Yeah, I want the config window to be tabbed I just been kinda lazy at writing that code (its GUI code and I hate writing GUI code if its not fancy graphics).



On the graph window, try posting a picture but I doubt it will help me. I'm about as baffled as you are at the moment. Maybe something will trigger if i see a pic

I need to do something useless.
 
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Old 07/27/07, 9:15 PM   #525
petoulachi
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Just played with the r44674 and it seems that the /recount stanby comment doesn't work well if in a raid and synching with others (it was on AV and /recount vrchk shows me that we were 5 Recount users. I'm used to stop recount while pvp, but it doesn't work anymore.
 
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