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06/24/07, 7:10 PM
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#101
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Don Flamenco
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I can't wisper (only) my Reports, it only shows it on the last checkboxed area then.
MB Usage after 2h is about 30mb on a 25 Man Raid, wasn't mentioned somewhere it should be about 5mb at all? That's far to much for me.
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06/24/07, 7:22 PM
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#102
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What would you have me do?
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Originally Posted by Myul
MB Usage after 2h is about 30mb on a 25 Man Raid, wasn't mentioned somewhere it should be about 5mb at all? That's far to much for me.
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Time data is pretty intensive on the memory, hence the auto-delete functionality. As a question, though, why is 30mb far too much? If your system is strapped for resources (I.E under 1GB of memory total), you're really better off not running this addon and going with something as simplistic as possible. If your system isn't strapped for resources, just enable the auto-delete and reset your data when you're done with it.
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What are you waiting for, a certain shade of green?
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06/24/07, 7:27 PM
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#103
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Druid
Stormreaver
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I've got in place something for trying to figure out if a data point is really useful now when it adds new ones in which should reduce time data usage.
Fixed one of those bugs and currently working on tracking down an issue with logging out (or UI unloading).
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I need to do something useless.
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06/24/07, 7:28 PM
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#104
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Druid
Stormreaver
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Originally Posted by Myul
I can't wisper (only) my Reports, it only shows it on the last checkboxed area then.
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Did you check whisper under the report to and wrote a name in the whisper box?
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I need to do something useless.
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06/24/07, 7:37 PM
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#105
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D:
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I am a bit confused as to if it sync's or not. I am assuming if it does, that it will sync with anyone within a 200m range with the addon. Has anyone had any experience with it, and if so, how accurate is it say compared to, SWStats?
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06/24/07, 8:59 PM
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#106
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Von Kaiser
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Is it possible to nuke all the data on Recount? When I reset the data, it still shows Recount taking up 10Mb.
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06/24/07, 9:30 PM
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#107
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Glass Joe
Undead Mage
Kor'gall (EU)
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Originally Posted by Lumines
Is it possible to nuke all the data on Recount? When I reset the data, it still shows Recount taking up 10Mb.
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I found that forcing a garbage collection after reseting the data reduces the showed memory usage back to 2Mb or less.
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06/24/07, 9:59 PM
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#108
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Druid
Stormreaver
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Originally Posted by Lumines
Is it possible to nuke all the data on Recount? When I reset the data, it still shows Recount taking up 10Mb.
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Yeah, you have to garbage collect to see the difference. WoW will garbage collect on its own if you wait long enough.
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I need to do something useless.
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06/24/07, 10:00 PM
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#109
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Druid
Stormreaver
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Originally Posted by Koosha
I am a bit confused as to if it sync's or not. I am assuming if it does, that it will sync with anyone within a 200m range with the addon. Has anyone had any experience with it, and if so, how accurate is it say compared to, SWStats?
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Syncing is disabled at the moment due to issues. I'm going to change how syncing works to a SWStats/Violation style mode which means you will only have synced data for the tables but not the extensive detailed data. 200yd range is for the combat log messages, if syncing works in theory you could be in Azeroth and receive messages from someone in Outlands.
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I need to do something useless.
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06/24/07, 11:47 PM
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#110
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D:
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Originally Posted by Cryect
Syncing is disabled at the moment due to issues. I'm going to change how syncing works to a SWStats/Violation style mode which means you will only have synced data for the tables but not the extensive detailed data. 200yd range is for the combat log messages, if syncing works in theory you could be in Azeroth and receive messages from someone in Outlands.
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Alright sweet, I just really really want to use this but, without syncing pretty much no point for me to use it for raid parses over SWStats, unless I just want to look at the graphs for my self 
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06/24/07, 11:49 PM
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#111
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Disillusioned Lifebloom Whore
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Originally Posted by Koosha
Alright sweet, I just really really want to use this but, without syncing pretty much no point for me to use it for raid parses over SWStats, unless I just want to look at the graphs for my self 
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Are you really more than 200 yards away from the other members of your raid that often? I use only my logs for WWS with my radii set to 200 yards and they always match up with SWS numbers pretty well. I don't recall anyone complaining about stuff missing from the reports I generate, anyways.
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06/24/07, 11:53 PM
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#112
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D:
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Well, I have been running both at the same time, to see the differnces, and they were definately there. Last night on Al'ar, the numbers were about 50k total damage done difference. And the people with the 50k total damage done difference, were 2 warlocks, who were right next to me the entire raid.
EDIT: Also, the melee were much much lower than they were on SWStats.
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06/25/07, 1:10 AM
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#113
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Druid
Stormreaver
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Originally Posted by Koosha
Well, I have been running both at the same time, to see the differnces, and they were definately there. Last night on Al'ar, the numbers were about 50k total damage done difference. And the people with the 50k total damage done difference, were 2 warlocks, who were right next to me the entire raid.
EDIT: Also, the melee were much much lower than they were on SWStats.
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Al'ar is basically worst case fight currently in game. If people next to you are 50k difference that means there is something else different (example no pet merging in at the time you were running so if they were using felguards with the melee it wasn't getting added in).
If it really bothers you then check back in a while but exact numbers are worthless and really the numbers SWS gives you is worthless besides an epeen contest or telling you who is asleep but I know thats what a lot of people look for in meters. Its meant as I said a raid analysis tool mainly though it has some work to go towards that task I admit but currently working on fixing those issues 
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I need to do something useless.
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06/25/07, 1:20 AM
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#114
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Piston Honda
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Looks awsome so far, getting my guild to try it out.
Keep up the good work.
Maybe add a little note for people to download the Graphlib if using the autoupdater without externals and relying on standalone libarys.
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06/25/07, 2:02 AM
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#115
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D:
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Originally Posted by Cryect
Al'ar is basically worst case fight currently in game. If people next to you are 50k difference that means there is something else different (example no pet merging in at the time you were running so if they were using felguards with the melee it wasn't getting added in).
If it really bothers you then check back in a while but exact numbers are worthless and really the numbers SWS gives you is worthless besides an epeen contest or telling you who is asleep but I know thats what a lot of people look for in meters. Its meant as I said a raid analysis tool mainly though it has some work to go towards that task I admit but currently working on fixing those issues 
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I wasn't trying to complain about the addon, perhaps I should have quoted the person who I was talking to, he said, how often are you 200yrds away from the rest of the raid, so I was telling him the differneces I saw, even from affliction warlocks on top of me.
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06/25/07, 4:03 AM
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#116
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Don Flamenco
Gnome Warlock
Dragonblight
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Yup, got flooded with errors, so I installed BugGrabber. Now, nothing shows up in the display, ever. I do damage by myself or in a party, it isn't there. In a raid, no damage is shown. Since the primary interface is clicking on bars for info, all I've got now is a box and some options menus.
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06/25/07, 4:12 AM
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#117
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Glass Joe
Troll Shaman
Frostmourne (EU)
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Since using Recount I deactivated SWStats, but when I compare my numbers with the synced SWS Data from other raid members. I never saw significant differences, highest was probably 1-2k dmg difference in a boss fight. Maybe Al'ar is a problem, I haven't been there yet, but so far I have gotten very good results from using Recount.
I really like this addon, it's great to analyze my raid's performance and figure out where people could improve, instead of just seeing low numbers from them in SWS.
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06/25/07, 4:20 AM
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#118
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Rogue
Zenedar (EU)
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I had really bad bug while testing yesterday - tried that special raid dps graph feature and I got a softlock - I resized it's window before we engaged trash pack, at the moment I got in combat my fps just dropped from 40 to 0 over about 2-3 seconds(looked like Matrix effect :p) , then I had to alt-f4 out and relog,
that window display also got corrupted - my guess it has something to do with onupdate handler and probably window size that causes it go fall into slower and slower loop over time
I'd call this very bad bug
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06/25/07, 5:21 AM
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#119
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Von Kaiser
Orc Warlock
Skullcrusher (EU)
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I used it in our last nights Hyjal Raid and it seemed to work quite well. Memory use from my point of view was SWstats level, which is quite a lot. Though info in this compared to swstats it's just something amazing.
I had to delete all data after each boss though and force garbage collection. Also to reply to someone saying is computer hung on specs, I want to reply that mine isn't, I have very high end computer, but still fps clearly jumps up after you delete all data.
Some stuff that I would love to see improved:
1) Moving through different views should be done via pulldown menu. Why? Cause now when I press next it loads each chart to memory thus increasing kib per action. This would optimize memory use and in my opinion would easier to find view you want to see (especially in the future if more views are added). Also swstatslike quickbuttons for most commonly used isn't a bad idea.
2) checkbox view where you could checkbox what data is being monitored and recorded. I see pros and cons here though, especially after syncing is done, since if people monitor different data, then syncing might not be best. But with 200 yard combatlog it works well even now.
This is just something that could be further worked on. But main idea if it would be that you have a freedom of choosing what data you record. This would help with memory problems. Or one option: how closely it monitors, like "very simple info, dps, top three dps sources, medium info, full info etc".
3) Some option to force garbage collection after you delete data.
4) Dot-overlapsing, this would track when you renew your dots on top of old ones, thus doing it too early, would be great for warlocks and shadow priests.
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Thank you for your work with great mod, if stuff I typed helps think something / add some functions I asked it would even better.
Keep up the great work.
Last edited by Nyarlathotep : 06/25/07 at 6:36 AM.
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06/25/07, 5:47 AM
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#120
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Von Kaiser
Human Rogue
Tarren Mill (EU)
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Wouldn't it be possible after each boss fight, save all data for that. Then delete/garbage collect. And you could be able to import data to the addon whenever you please. This will save up tons of memory, and you're still able to closer inspect fights.
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06/25/07, 6:36 AM
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#121
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Von Kaiser
Orc Warlock
Skullcrusher (EU)
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Also could you add partial resistances info there, if it's not already in. I'm at work now, so just confirm if it's in, or say if it's not 
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06/25/07, 7:05 AM
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#122
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Glass Joe
Undead Mage
Shadowmoon (EU)
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Am i totally retarded/stupid/blind, or there isnt any way to change Recount appearence(color, width, height)?
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06/25/07, 7:17 AM
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#123
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Von Kaiser
Lilybée
Blood Elf Death Knight
Non-US/EU Server (EU)
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You can't change the color (yet) but you can resize it by dragging the bottom right corner 
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06/25/07, 7:41 AM
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#124
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Glass Joe
Undead Mage
Shadowmoon (EU)
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Omg it works. Another stupid question. Any way to lock it in place?
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06/25/07, 8:27 AM
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#125
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I'm not crazy, no, really, I'm not.
Askledarea
Blood Elf Shaman
No WoW Account
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I assume that it's possible to flag in-combat only recording, and I'm just blind :p
If not, can we have that too? (currently it'll define one fight as "over", then add any OOC healing etc into the next fight, distorting the stats).
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
my surpriseometer isn't registering anything here
is it broken
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