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Old 06/24/07, 5:09 PM   #1
Kota
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostwolf
Standby DKP Addon

Hey guys my guild uses EQDKP and i am looking for a addon that will keep track of the comings and goings of people who aren't in the raid. I am looking to award standby DKP based upon how long they stay online.

I heard about a addon that creates a channel for the standby people to be in and it keeps track of when they leave/join it. I looked on cursed gaming but was unable to find one that wasn't over 6 months old.

Any help would be nice.

Thanks,

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Old 06/24/07, 6:09 PM   #2
Rumpeskum
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Night Elf Priest
 
Grim Batol (EU)
CT_raidtracker is the addon our guild is using for this. You can export a string that you can parse into your EQDKP site.

It keeps track of which loot got to who, when people joined and left and which players was present at a kill.

http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5892/

First time you activiate it you will get up the options menu. In the bottom of the window, remember to set the export format to EQDKP before you export the strings.

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Old 06/24/07, 7:06 PM   #3
Kota
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Frostwolf
Oh i have that plugin and use it.

I am looking for another plugin to monitor how long people outside the raid are logged in so i can award them DKP for being standby.

Say we raid 7pm-11pm and i have 30 people online at the time. I can only take 25 to the raid so 5 are left out. 5 people who are good raiders and i would take them normally but there just isn't enough room. I want to reward them full DKP for being online during the whole time of the raid as a standby but with the raid going on i can't track that and the raid at the same time.

Just trying to make it simiplier for me and more fair for the others.

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Old 06/25/07, 7:21 AM   #4
Kebinusan
Glass Joe
 
Human Warlock
 
Shu'halo
CT_RaidTracker has an option to add online guildies to the DKP list automagically at boss kill. It works pretty well, but you need to go through the attendance list and remove friends/sub alts, etc.

Also you could try NRT (http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/nrt.html) which has a CTRT export function and the option to take attendance. The attendance function basically asks in guild (or a specified channel) for people not in the raid to message you with their mains name to be added to raid attendance. It doesnt seem to track DKP values of drops though.

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Old 06/25/07, 8:02 AM   #5
Daboran
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Twisting Nether (EU)
Originally Posted by Kota View Post
Oh i have that plugin and use it.

I am looking for another plugin to monitor how long people outside the raid are logged in so i can award them DKP for being standby.

Say we raid 7pm-11pm and i have 30 people online at the time. I can only take 25 to the raid so 5 are left out. 5 people who are good raiders and i would take them normally but there just isn't enough room. I want to reward them full DKP for being online during the whole time of the raid as a standby but with the raid going on i can't track that and the raid at the same time.

Just trying to make it simiplier for me and more fair for the others.
Just add them into the raid in group 7 or 8? That's what we do - everyone on the backup list gets put in those groups and they go farm or do some other guild activity. Most UI can hide those groups anyway and they are in the raid as far as your mod is concerned.

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Old 06/25/07, 9:13 AM   #6
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Night Elf Rogue
 
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Originally Posted by Kebinusan View Post
CT_RaidTracker has an option to add online guildies to the DKP list automagically at boss kill. It works pretty well, but you need to go through the attendance list and remove friends/sub alts, etc.
You can define which alts belong to which mains in plugins\ctrt\config.php.


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Old 08/04/08, 1:51 AM   #7
cerbul
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
Hi,
I checked the internet for some time now and I have a similar problem.
I need to award DKP to the players that are online but not in raid.
I would love to be able to give DKP every hour to all players that are online, not only in raid and on boss kills. CT_RaidTracker is able to remember the alts after I enter them into that file, so that I won't have to do it again next boss kill?
The situation in my guild is not nice at the moment, most ppl are not active, they play like 2 times a week.
I want to sort them, without eating up my play time. An addon that does both raid dkp award and passive dkp award would be nice if any of you know such an addon.

Last edited by cerbul : 07/13/10 at 8:59 AM. Reason: Grammar

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Old 08/04/08, 2:49 AM   #8
Bach
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Shattered Hand
Try this mod Queeg

Raiders dont have to be in the raid, they can also be tracked on an Alt

It tracks when then signed in and if they went offline

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Old 08/04/08, 6:42 AM   #9
cerbul
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
Thank You for the answer, but can it be activated hourly? Or can i give dkp to the entire guild (only for online players) at any moment other then boss killing?
I do want to reward mostly attendance and boss killing less.

Last edited by cerbul : 07/13/10 at 9:00 AM. Reason: Grammar

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Old 08/04/08, 7:17 AM   #10
Grillkohle
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Originally Posted by cerbul View Post
thank you for the answer, but can it be activated hourly? or can i give dkp to the entire guild (only for online players) at any moment other then boss killing?
as I want to reward mostly attencence and boss killing less.
HeadCount is currently being developed and promises to have a feature implemented to read current players in a channel and add them to an attendance set. This mod is very promising and to me looks like the best DKP alternative out there at the moment. However, there haven't been any updates for a while, so I'm not sure about it's delevopment status.

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Old 08/05/08, 6:47 AM   #11
cerbul
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
Nice addon, but still the same ideas..
No filters for giving DKP, or at least some feature separate from the dkp points that can count how many times a player is online while the raids, not necesary being in the raid.
This might help to see over some time that I might have some solcial ranked players that are more online that the actual raiders, and this will make the raider get replaced if he has poor attendence.

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Old 08/05/08, 10:00 AM   #12
seppyk
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Mug'thol
I have been rather busy in the past month, but recently continued work on HeadCount, specifically to add a more full-featured wait list management feature so the addon can track members who are not currently in the raid group. It is possible to track how long a player is online even if they are not in the raid, but it is a more complex feature. The addon tracks how long members in the raid are online/offline because a event is triggered whenever a player goes offline or comes back online while that player is in the raid group. That is the core event on which HeadCount does its data gathering.

From the context of a raid, there is less that can be done to track the online/offline times of players outside of the raid for obvious reasons. It looks to be a stretch goal at this point, but I will do some due diligence to estimate what's involved in tracking that data.

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Old 08/05/08, 12:12 PM   #13
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I think the outside of raid online/offline time would largely depend on the granularity which you require. If its every hour just sending a whisper in reply to a "List check!" spam would work, but for lower intervals you'd probably need a "client" addon that players have to run. I guess that's not exactly an optimal solution but it would workaround a lot of the issues you mentioned.

One question I did have was how robust is the "crash recovery" feature in headcount? Would a sync feature be overkill? It wouldn't have to be extremely frequent as people just don't crash *that* often

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Old 08/05/08, 4:46 PM   #14
seppyk
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Gnome Mage
 
Mug'thol
Originally Posted by Giant View Post
I think the outside of raid online/offline time would largely depend on the granularity which you require. If its every hour just sending a whisper in reply to a "List check!" spam would work, but for lower intervals you'd probably need a "client" addon that players have to run. I guess that's not exactly an optimal solution but it would workaround a lot of the issues you mentioned.

One question I did have was how robust is the "crash recovery" feature in headcount? Would a sync feature be overkill? It wouldn't have to be extremely frequent as people just don't crash *that* often
I agree with your list check solution primarily because there's no event trigger to support a wait list since it's an entirely artificial construct to WoW. Unlike raid activity, there are no events to support it.

The crash recovery is pretty reliable. I've closed/reloaded WoW in a number of ways (manually closing, killing the process, reloaded the UI), then returned to WoW, and the active raid recovers and keeps on ticking. It cleans up any mismatched time data and continues gracefully. No assumptions are made about time. If a player can't record proper time data, the addon will not attempt to make a best-guess at what happened in between. It knows what it knows.

A number of users have requested a synchronization feature for the main information (player attendance, boss kills, and loot received). The general use case is to allow users who are in the raid, but outside of the raid instance to be able to record the proper data. Some users have suggested that they would also feel that the ability to manually add a player, boss kill, or loot would be acceptable as well. I, personally, think synchronization could be useful to some groups of users, so it is at least worth investigation for any addon that needs to be concerned with data integrity.

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Old 08/06/08, 5:59 AM   #15
cerbul
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
I see what you mean.
You want to make it state of the art.
So that will track also the moments that some ppl logs into it's alt, or has a fast disconnect.
In my opinion would be good enough to be able to track ppl online not for giving them dkp, just to give them hourly points, other then dkp, you can call them how you want, so that i can see in future who is more online in the raid hours then others.
A feature that can save a variable for everyone in guild, in/out of raid, that can also track atls, and can store the number of hours a player is online, or just to give him one point per hour, would be good enough for me.
I tryed to add this feature into the dkp system as I didn't imagine that no DKP system can track entire guild, or can give by one click an amount of DKP to a filtered list of players inside the whole guild.
I set up the dkp so that will matter attendence hours, but seems like I don't have the suport for it.
A feature to sort the list of the guildies, and cut out offline ppl, and give DKP or attendence points hourly by one click or by a popup window that pops up hourly (or the amount of time i set it), would be really nice.

Other idea would be to have a button that will check everyone online and level=70 in guild, and assign to main character of the online person, a point for attendence or a dkp amount would be great.

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Old 12/02/08, 4:59 PM   #16
Bela
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Lethon
Not quite the same topic but along the same thought- Has anyone found a replacement for CT_RaidTracker or HeadCount to export the DKP string from game to a DKP database outside of the game?

Your responses will be gratefully received. :-)

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Old 12/06/08, 6:15 PM   #17
seppyk
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Gnome Mage
 
Mug'thol
HeadCount 1.3.0

For those interested, I have released a new version of HeadCount (version 1.3.0), the raid tracking addon. This version should be compatible with the new Lich King expansion set. It also fixed a number of known previous bug issues.

HeadCount - Addons - Curse

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