Discord - Maybe not quite so dead

Sovereignty · 08/01/07, 12:50 AM

I know *a lot* of people have stopped checking the Discord Forums since they've turned into an inbred cesspool of foreign debauchery, but - Loz did post something tonight which some might find promising:

Originally Posted by Lozerath

I know I've said before that I'm back and working again and then disappeared without a word once again so I'm trying not make promises that get your hopes up. I have decided to go past the huge wall I hit in DUB and work on other parts of the mod then go back to the wall later. I *think* what I'm gonna be working on tomorrow will be fun and engaging once again and set fire to my imagination. Wait, I have no imagination. Rather I hope it'll spark some inspiration since I tend work in bursts of inspiration hardly understanding what I'm doing. Sometimes I'll look back and go "wow, I wonder how that was done...oh shit, I did it, I should know."

I finally found out it was food poisoning that's been making me sick for the past year, ever since I moved into this new place. I always thought it might be something in the apartment and tried to just live with it. But it turned out to be food poisoning. I've stopped eating at the fast food dive that closest to where I live and have felt TONS better for the past week. I have so much energy right now. Typetypetypetypetype.

If I keep feeling this way things are gonna finally get DONE. Before when I said was back I'd get sick again and just feel lifeless and I couldn't even come to the forum to let people know what's happened. Right now though I've felt extremely good for a week straight and just keep getting better.

Bah, well, stuff. I'm gonna skip over conditionals which I've been dreading reprogramming in DUB and go straight to actionbutton and unit frame support then release a beta, revamp the website (which I've decided make modable as well, should be fun), and then go back and add conditionals before making it a live release. There.

GokieKS · 08/01/07, 1:07 AM

Interesting. For all its faults (especially in terms of memory efficiency), the Discord set of mods are still probably the most customizable AB/UF mods ever made. I'd be highly tempted to try them again if they're revived.

Valoran · 08/01/07, 1:10 AM

The only sad thing being that the vast majority of the things I loved discord for were later irreversibly broken by UI changes and won't have workarounds. Just thinking about what I now actually use, I would find no reason to swap to back to a less functional discord.

Dollar · 08/01/07, 1:16 AM

If discord is returned to its former customizable glory, I will probably switch. Luckily with the computer I am playing WoW on, I don't really care about memory so no deterrent there.

Ryas · 08/01/07, 1:24 AM

This would make me very happy.

Sovereignty · 08/01/07, 1:27 AM

Hopefully Loz gets his conditionals in a semi-working state, because that was the best thing about Discord.

diospadre · 08/01/07, 2:14 AM

It's nice to hear that he's alive but we've all seen this kind of post before from lots of different sources.

Looking back it's funny thinking about what Discord turned into. Back when he first released DAB someone asked him to add some flexbarish functionality to it and he said no, stating that he wanted to keep DAB simple and light on features.

Slash · 08/01/07, 6:04 AM

zenii · 08/01/07, 6:06 AM

I love the discord UI since you could do pretty much anything with it, but I switched over to ace because my computer couldn't handle how much memory discord was using up. Hopefully Loz will make it a little less memory heavy when he goes to update it.

Opioid · 08/01/07, 6:14 AM

Originally Posted by Dollar

If discord is returned to its former customizable glory, I will probably switch. Luckily with the computer I am playing WoW on, I don't really care about memory so no deterrent there.

Thats the thing... its former full glory isn't possible thanks to Blizzard. Full stop.

exog · 08/01/07, 6:31 AM

Im also a old discord user, i remember downloading DAB and DUF and spending literally a whole weekend on learning, trying/failing and customizing my GUI. (Loved floaters)

If a new and supported discord version was released i guess id try it tho. And to the post above: What exactly was fully stopped? And why is that so important that you rule out "former glory"?

Just having DUF where you can customize all elements would be totally awesome.

sathran · 08/01/07, 6:40 AM

Definitely some good news.

I'd been using Discord Action Bars up until the recent UI changes broke the mod's functionality.

I'm using Ace2 based add-ons at the moment and, in terms of memory usage, they're much more efficient than DAB, and almost equally configurable.

I'll definitely take a look at whatever discord mods make it into beta, though.

Malan · 08/01/07, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by exog

What exactly was fully stopped? And why is that so important that you rule out "former glory"?.

The huge thing that DAB did that nobody else did at the time (and is no longer possible) was having action bars/floaters appear when certain combat conditions were met. ie, your health < 2000, HealthPotionBar pops up, and then vanishes again once you've activated the cooldown on it. That sort of thing is no longer possible in the UI.

Shadowed · 08/01/07, 1:57 PM

It'll be interesting to see what he comes up with, but as Malan said anything that intelligently changed from combat events (like health pots appearing < 2000) aren't possible anymore, the closet you can get is changing the alpha value but you can still click on it even when it's "invisible".

Please stop spreading bad information the performance issues that you'd notice with Discord were related to the fact that it gave you a lot of customizating and flexability, you'll notice this with any mod the more it does the more you'll notice changes in your game play regardless of what framework/library it uses. Memory is not a value way of measuring whats better.

Sovereignty · 08/01/07, 10:31 PM

I think that he could also scale the bars in combat, so that a bar could be set to scale .00001 alpha value 0 and then have the scale and alpha change to something useful when certain conditions are met.

No, DAB won't be like it was before; but DUF and DART are still the most powerful and versatile mods in their respective categories.

I'm not sure I'll ever switch back, seeing as I can easily get by without Discord. It is exciting news nonetheless.