[GRID] Addons and Functionality - Page 21

Pastamancer · 12/09/08, 1:21 AM

Originally Posted by Renew

So the incoming heals mod needs the updated UID code as well?

No, it's actually not currently possible since the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event only provides the name of the target.

Scrye · 12/09/08, 12:10 PM

Im not sure if it has been asked before: Im a HolyPaladin and id like to get an icon in grid for targets with Sacred shield on them.
Currently ive manually added the spell and it is displayed as text like "Sacred" in my grid 2nd line.
Is it possible to get the icon shown in one of the corners ? like: having the debuff icon in the middle and the sacred shield notification on the lower left side ?
thanks guys.

healmuth · 12/10/08, 5:43 AM

No, it's actually not currently possible since the UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT event only provides the name of the target.

Wow, that is bad news. So unless Blizz decides to add it as an own event, it basically means that its goodbye incoming heals right?

mmyers · 12/10/08, 4:35 PM

Im fairly new to using grid. In the past I found x-perl handled everything I needed as far as raid frames go when tanking or dpsing. Now That I am healing on my druid I havnt found anything as nice as lifebloomer for tracking my hots.

The part I am having trouble with is that it seems you need to configure grid to be able to detect certain types of debuffs? This is forgien to me as xperl seemed to just understand all debuffs.

An example would be the frost tomb on Kel'Thuzad. Is grid supposed to detect these automatically or do I really have to manually add in debuffs for all encounters we do?

thanks for any feedback

Rodandwa · 12/10/08, 5:13 PM

An example would be the frost tomb on Kel'Thuzad. Is grid supposed to detect these automatically or do I really have to manually add in debuffs for all encounters we do?

My guess is Grid auto displays debuffs that can be removed (Disease,Magic etc). Frost Blast has no classification, so you have to add it manually. I'm not sure if you would want to auto-enable debuffs as then you'd have to end up writing exclusions anyway for things like Sated, Weakened Soul, Hypothermia, Forbearance, etc.

Lizzie · 12/17/08, 6:45 PM

Does anyone know if theres a wrath-updated version of the grid status raid debuff module (the one that automatically creates debuff auras for raid situations, i.e.: bloodboil, etc)? I found that really handy.

Lemanakmelo · 12/18/08, 7:34 AM

Originally Posted by mmyers

An example would be the frost tomb on Kel'Thuzad. Is grid supposed to detect these automatically or do I really have to manually add in debuffs for all encounters we do?

Yes you have to input all the debuffs manually.

Which bring me to my question. In BC I used GridStatusRaidDebuffs, but this isn't updated for Wrath. It always bothered me that I had to have an addon for debuffs, because before I used Grid I used default UI, which you can let show all debuffs. This leads me to believe that it must be possible to allow Grid to show all debuffs. Rodandwa pointed out that this would show debuffs such as hypothermia, but I would prefer all debuffs to none.

Is there any simple change in a line of code or anything that would allow Grid to have all debuffs by default?

Lizzie · 12/18/08, 7:44 AM

Originally Posted by Lemanakmelo

Yes you have to input all the debuffs manually.

Which bring me to my question. In BC I used GridStatusRaidDebuffs, but this isn't updated for Wrath. It always bothered me that I had to have an addon for debuffs, because before I used Grid I used default UI, which you can let show all debuffs. This leads me to believe that it must be possible to allow Grid to show all debuffs. Rodandwa pointed out that this would show debuffs such as hypothermia, but I would prefer all debuffs to none.

Is there any simple change in a line of code or anything that would allow Grid to have all debuffs by default?

I'm going to take a quick look at the old GridStatusRaidDebuff code and see if it wouldn't be easy just to edit in some Wrath debuffs.

edit: Showing all debuffs might be a bit spammy, for me personally it'd be much more useful just to show pertinent information i.e. who has frost tomb. Looking at the code, it seems pretty simple to manipulate for Wrath however I don't have a list of the debuffs to add to it.. anyone has a list, or wants to toss me a few, just message me.

Lemanakmelo · 12/18/08, 5:17 PM

It can theoretically be a bit spammy, but I like seeing things like a warrior's MS, Grievous Wounds in heroics, even Hypothermia, because it's all useful information for me. And while I know I can add abilities afterwards, it seems weird to me to add an ability after I've dealt with it already, especially when I know it's possible to see it up front if I had something other than Grid. Additionally to add every debuff manually I have to find out what it's called, I don't know it just has always seemed like a backwards thing for a healer to do.

chase · 12/18/08, 7:21 PM

Originally Posted by Lemanakmelo

It can theoretically be a bit spammy, but I like seeing things like a warrior's MS, Grievous Wounds in heroics, even Hypothermia, because it's all useful information for me. And while I know I can add abilities afterwards, it seems weird to me to add an ability after I've dealt with it already, especially when I know it's possible to see it up front if I had something other than Grid. Additionally to add every debuff manually I have to find out what it's called, I don't know it just has always seemed like a backwards thing for a healer to do.

Than you run into the problem of information overload. The default frames show all debuffs, so it is great? Not for me, because than you find yourself trying to figure out in that list of 10 debuffs, which one(s) you actually care about.

It does take some setup I agree. However, once you have had grid running for awhile you figure out which ones you want to add and more importantly what priority they should be, things work smooth.

You can also run GridIndicatorSideIcons and set something like bottom icon to all the debuff types you can cure. But this is only something you should really use if you are sure you know how to setup grid.

For instance, I have all my "oh crap" debuffs to show as a center icon. This way if I see a center icon pop up, I know it is a priority. Than I have the bottom icon indicator show for everything else I care about. I also add debuffs I care about manually so that they have a higher priority than other debuffs. mortal strike > frost nova etc.

About the only time I'm truly worried about "personal" player debuffs like hypothermia and such, I'm in a 5 man (or less) setting, and than I simply use party frames.

zedwards · 12/21/08, 8:27 AM

Well, I used grid in BT and it showed major debuffs such as bloodboil/parasites, etc. so healers can react quickly and now with WotLK it is not showing debuffs such as Frost Tomb and so on. I never had to add debuffs and I don't want to if I don't have to. This is really my next priority in getting to work with my setup.

EDIT: So looking at the lua, it seems as the file is not updated for wotlk even though it has been updated since?

Mixe · 01/03/09, 9:23 AM

I'm wondering if it's possible to copy a grid profile and send it via msn to my friend so he can use my exact grid setup? Is there any way of doing this? I tried searching for it but came up with no results.

Khosh · 01/04/09, 4:07 AM

Originally Posted by Lizzie

Does anyone know if theres a wrath-updated version of the grid status raid debuff module (the one that automatically creates debuff auras for raid situations, i.e.: bloodboil, etc)? I found that really handy.

There's an alpha version that's been updated in the last day - GridStatusRaidDebuff - World of Warcraft - WowAce.com
I haven't had a chance to test it yet but should do tomorrow.

vorda · 01/04/09, 7:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mixe

I'm wondering if it's possible to copy a grid profile and send it via msn to my friend so he can use my exact grid setup? Is there any way of doing this? I tried searching for it but came up with no results.

You should just be able to copy your grid.lua file from your C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNTNAME\SavedVariables to your friend (in the same location on his pc, just his Accountname of course) and make him go to Grid, profiles and select your char name/server/default (depends on how you set up your profile).

leithkin · 01/11/09, 6:16 AM

Originally Posted by vorda

You should just be able to copy your grid.lua file from your C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\ACCOUNTNAME\SavedVariables to your friend (in the same location on his pc, just his Accountname of course) and make him go to Grid, profiles and select your char name/server/default (depends on how you set up your profile).

Here's a question regarding that process: would that work across different operating systems? I use a Mac, and everyone else I know who uses Grid is in Windows, predictably. Would their SavedVariables file work with my Mac install, or do the OSes handle those particular files differently?

Lizzie · 01/11/09, 8:37 PM

Originally Posted by leithkin

Here's a question regarding that process: would that work across different operating systems? I use a Mac, and everyone else I know who uses Grid is in Windows, predictably. Would their SavedVariables file work with my Mac install, or do the OSes handle those particular files differently?

It's the same cross-platform.

Garantio · 01/12/09, 5:03 AM

I've installed beta GRID and with some minor problems (GridStatusMending is not working, "My Renew" is not fading off) it's working perfectly. The only question I have now is how it will work with 25 pets in Malygos fight (tbh the only fight where the change was actually needed)? I usually have 25+pets layout but the GRID doesn't show me more than 5 pets.

Mokhtar · 01/12/09, 7:44 AM

Right now : won't work at all, Grid uses name to differentiate units currently and all drakes have the same name, a version using guid should be released shortly (as in targeted to jan 15).
After that : you may still need a custom layout to do that, afaik the current layouts "with pets" only display warlock / hunter pets (possibly DK ?). GridDynamicLayout does that but it's just a feature in an automatic layout that you may not find to your taste.

Garantio · 01/12/09, 7:51 AM

Thanks for the answer. As I've said, I'm using beta version of GRID I got from SNV workspace pointed above. I was using GridDynamicLayout some months ago but had to remove it due to heavy lag spikes when someone died or may be in other circumstances.
Currently, beta version displays all pets including vehicle-type mounts (i.e. tailors' carpet) and mind-controlled mobs but only limited to 5 in default layout. How can I create a custom layout to use in Malygos-like fight?

Drujasp · 01/12/09, 12:31 PM

I am looking for a solution that will allow me to display MT, MTTarget, and MTTargetTarget (with tanks/assists defined using oRa2) as Grid boxes. I have scoured forums (including this one) and have not found anything.

I use Grid + Clique, with decursive mUFs for decursing (I find that separating the removable debuffs from Grid makes response faster and allows me to use Grid Icon for other things -- plus when I raid as boomkin I can ignore Grid and only pay attention to mUFs).

Current setup isn't the end of the world -- I can use Clique on oRa2 bars as well, but it would be nice to see incoming heals and HoT Status (and when my HoTs are about to run out) right there on the MT/MA area. Also for fights with frequent tank bounces it's just easier, especially when I'm mostly raid healing.

Re: Malygos -- tried the new version on EoE10 and it worked(?) but without all pets displaying. For 10 it's not really needed anyway, will try it with 25 and provide feedback.

Mokhtar · 01/13/09, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Garantio

Thanks for the answer. As I've said, I'm using beta version of GRID I got from SNV workspace pointed above. I was using GridDynamicLayout some months ago but had to remove it due to heavy lag spikes when someone died or may be in other circumstances.
Currently, beta version displays all pets including vehicle-type mounts (i.e. tailors' carpet) and mind-controlled mobs but only limited to 5 in default layout. How can I create a custom layout to use in Malygos-like fight?

If by beta version you mean alpha version then it should work.

Edit GridLayoutLayout.lua, for example take "By Group 25 w/ pets" :

GridLayout:AddLayout(L["By Group 25 w/Pets"], {
	[1] = {
		groupFilter = "1",
	},
	[2] = {
		groupFilter = "2",
	},
	[3] = {
		groupFilter = "3",
	},
	[4] = {
		groupFilter = "4",
	},
	[5] = {
		groupFilter = "5",
	},
	[6] = {
		groupFilter = "1,2,3,4,5",
		isPetGroup = true,
		unitsPerColumn = 5,
		maxColumns = 5,
	},
})

Change it to :

GridLayout:AddLayout(L["By Group 25 w/Pets"], {
	[1] = {
		groupFilter = "1",
	},
	[2] = {
		groupFilter = "2",
	},
	[3] = {
		groupFilter = "3",
	},
	[4] = {
		groupFilter = "4",
	},
	[5] = {
		groupFilter = "5",
	},
	[6] = {
		groupFilter = "1,2,3,4,5",
		isPetGroup = true,
		unitsPerColumn = 5,
	},
})

Garantio · 01/13/09, 11:23 AM

Mokhtar, thanks again for the reply. Yes, I meant alpha version. I will try this change.

Pastamancer · 01/13/09, 12:06 PM

Did I miss something?

How do you have more than 25 (unitsPerColumn * maxColumns) pets for 25 players (groups 1-5)?

Kreoss · 01/13/09, 1:35 PM

I'm raiding 10 man only at the moment. It would be extremely helpfull If I could have a Grid layout that would put MTs marked as such in addons like oRA2 to be the first ones appearing in Grid. Is that possible?

cptmurdok · 01/13/09, 3:04 PM

For what it's worth, I updated the old version of GridStatusRaidDebuff for use in Wrath raids. I've used it without problems in Naxx-10, Malygos-10/25, and Sartharion-10/25. I'll be testing it in Naxx-25 tonight. Azethoth is including my updates in his alpha version, but for those still using the current release version of Grid, you may find this useful for the time being.

GridStatusRaidDebuff-WotLK.zip - FileFront.com