[GRID] Addons and Functionality - Page 24

Humbaba · 04/16/08, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by Daboran

Did you happen to notice that if you select a unit with the timer running and don't decurse it, the timer resets to 0secs and counts from there for as long as it is selected? Once you deselect the unit, the timer "remembers" where it was supposed to be and shows the correct debuff time.

The mod author has replied to my enquiry on this issue - if you get this check the status priorties for the unit and the debuff - the unit may be overriding the debuff.

I changed the priority on it, but no, I didn't notice this. That's not to say that it isn't happening, just that I rarely target people. I have all my healing spells plus abolish poison and decurse set up with mouseover macros so I just mouseover the cursed player in Grid and hit "e" to decurse them.

Daboran · 04/16/08, 3:50 PM

Originally Posted by Humbaba

I changed the priority on it, but no, I didn't notice this. That's not to say that it isn't happening, just that I rarely target people. I have all my healing spells plus abolish poison and decurse set up with mouseover macros so I just mouseover the cursed player in Grid and hit "e" to decurse them.

Yeh, it's a little more noticeable on Brutallus, where I changed the addon to show Burn times.

Semadael · 04/19/08, 5:31 PM

Originally Posted by sarf

Clique uses the frame unit as the target, so it will work the same as a mouseover macro - that is, you won't have to target or focus-target the entity you wish to use the spell on. Essentially, just set up Clique to do alt+shift+ctrl+mousebutton 5 to use the Moo spell, and it'll Just Work.

Clique is awesome and very, very low profile. You can even configure it to just touch your Grid unit frames.

Sidenote: it is often good to keep Clique from "hooking" right mouse button and player frame, unless you either have mastered the command line or have another addon to change loot stuff / leave groups.

How can I get Clique to use regular keyboard buttons though and not just mousebuttons? I want to be able to use my current keyboard keybindings. I want to be able to mouseover units in Grid and hit the keybinding for that heal/dispell/cure whatever and have it work like a mouseover macro. But I only want it to do this when I hover over units in Grid not any unitframe or any player, which is how mouseover macros work.

If Clique can in no way do this, is there any other way anyone knows of I can achieve this?

nataku · 04/19/08, 6:37 PM

Originally Posted by Semadael

How can I get Clique to use regular keyboard buttons though and not just mousebuttons? I want to be able to use my current keyboard keybindings. I want to be able to mouseover units in Grid and hit the keybinding for that heal/dispell/cure whatever and have it work like a mouseover macro. But I only want it to do this when I hover over units in Grid not any unitframe or any player, which is how mouseover macros work.

If Clique can in no way do this, is there any other way anyone knows of I can achieve this?

You can use mouseover macros for that functionality.

Hamsda · 04/19/08, 9:46 PM

Originally Posted by nataku

You can use mouseover macros for that functionality.

that's exactly what he did NOT want to use^^

but afair this is not possible, i'm sorry

Kirion · 04/20/08, 3:49 AM

Originally Posted by Hamsda

that's exactly what he did NOT want to use^^

but afair this is not possible, i'm sorry

I did not get this, whats wrong with mouseover macro?

Semadael · 04/20/08, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Kirion

I did not get this, whats wrong with mouseover macro?

Because you can not restrict them to work on only unit frames. They will activate the spell to that target no matter how you hover over your target, grid, target unit frame, the toon itself in the game world ... This causes a lot of mistargets. For a merely annoying example; if some hunters pet happens to run by my mouse just as I am casting PoM. All the way to the catastrophic; where I start a Greater Heal on what I think is my current target but another player moved under my mouse just as the cast started and by the time I notice the heal isn't going to land on my tank getting pummeled I have lost precious seconds and the tank either dies or it can get quite hairy with me trying to catch up on the healing from that lost time.

I would love a way to basically restrict mouseover concepts to certain target types. Specifically just to Grid unit frames. I noticed Clique has this restriction concept in its options. But Clique only works with mousebuttons, and the author has informed me he has no plans to make Clique work with anything other that directly configured mouse clicks. Which seems a waste to those who have found a way to bind everything to keybindings so they don't have to be clickers in the first place.

I think it should be possible to take the guts of Clique that handle restricting mouseover to the specified target types and apply that to the blizzard mouseover macros. This would give the best of both worlds. You can just add a mouseover macro to any ability you want to have it but use this new hypothetical addon for restricting to what types to apply that mouseover to.

jfpro · 04/20/08, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by Semadael

Because you can not restrict them to work on only unit frames. They will activate the spell to that target no matter how you hover over your target, grid, target unit frame, the toon itself in the game world ... This causes a lot of mistargets. For a merely annoying example; if some hunters pet happens to run by my mouse just as I am casting PoM. All the way to the catastrophic; where I start a Greater Heal on what I think is my current target but another player moved under my mouse just as the cast started and by the time I notice the heal isn't going to land on my tank getting pummeled I have lost precious seconds and the tank either dies or it can get quite hairy with me trying to catch up on the healing from that lost time.

I have used mouseover macros for "all my healing spells" with Grid for at least the last year of raiding, never once have I had a mistarget by some other player, pet etc....that had moved under my moused over target, in fact I don't even think my setup will let me target something that is under my grid bars. What am I doing different that you?

Semadael · 04/21/08, 9:04 AM

Originally Posted by jfpro

I have used mouseover macros for "all my healing spells" with Grid for at least the last year of raiding, never once have I had a mistarget by some other player, pet etc....that had moved under my moused over target, in fact I don't even think my setup will let me target something that is under my grid bars. What am I doing different that you?

Apparently not ever moving your mouse away from the Grid unit frames area. I am not saying other things are moving under my moused over target I am saying things are moving under mouse at some times when I am attempting to cast a spell on my current target. I target my main target for healing and generally heal others via mouseovers.

Kirion · 04/21/08, 9:04 AM

Originally Posted by Semadael

Because you can not restrict them to work on only unit frames. They will activate the spell to that target no matter how you hover over your target, grid, target unit frame, the toon itself in the game world ... This causes a lot of mistargets. For a merely annoying example; if some hunters pet happens to run by my mouse just as I am casting PoM. All the way to the catastrophic; where I start a Greater Heal on what I think is my current target but another player moved under my mouse just as the cast started and by the time I notice the heal isn't going to land on my tank getting pummeled I have lost precious seconds and the tank either dies or it can get quite hairy with me trying to catch up on the healing from that lost time.

I would love a way to basically restrict mouseover concepts to certain target types. Specifically just to Grid unit frames. I noticed Clique has this restriction concept in its options. But Clique only works with mousebuttons, and the author has informed me he has no plans to make Clique work with anything other that directly configured mouse clicks. Which seems a waste to those who have found a way to bind everything to keybindings so they don't have to be clickers in the first place.

I think it should be possible to take the guts of Clique that handle restricting mouseover to the specified target types and apply that to the blizzard mouseover macros. This would give the best of both worlds. You can just add a mouseover macro to any ability you want to have it but use this new hypothetical addon for restricting to what types to apply that mouseover to.

Still didnt get this. We are talking about grid arent we? Like previous poster, I dont understand how you can mistarget something when mousover grid frame. Also, using [help] [harm] [player] etc you can set same rules for macro as with clique. The only thing that you can't do is exclude some specific addon frames.

Semadael · 04/21/08, 9:07 AM

Originally Posted by Kirion

....The only thing that you can't do is exclude some specific addon frames.

And that would be fine if I could exlude actual toons from being the target of a mouseover macro. That is what is causing me problems.

jfpro · 04/21/08, 1:12 PM

Wondering why you aren't using Grid for all your healing? I use the grid frame of my target to heal them,isn't that why we all use Grid? I don't ever think I use my in game target frame (Pitbull) for anything but glancing at it every so often...I probably glance at ToT more often..... I use the border of the grid frames to show me the status (red) of who has aggro.

Tsune · 04/21/08, 2:16 PM

Okay so something very strange has happened within the last few days using grid and here it is:

I use grid mana bars and i usually have it set to it's minimum width and at the bottom of each unit's square. This is currently a very nifty way for me to throw HOTs on warlocks that are ~50%. Now since an update a few days ago I can only have a thick bar on the right side. When i go to the options to change it, I can only have it either enabled or disabled.

I can deal with having the bar there, but I would much prefer to have it on the bottom at it's minimum thickness. Please let me know if there's something i can do!

mutagen · 04/21/08, 2:26 PM

The Grid Mana Bar options seem to have been reworked, they are now spread out through different parts of the Grid configuration instead of being all in the same place. I'm at work or I'd tell you exactly where the mana bar options went to. I too put the mana bar at the bottom and shrink it down to a sliver and I had the exact same reaction logging in yesterday: "WTH happened to my Grid and where are my options?"

aadric · 04/21/08, 3:35 PM

Clique has never worked right for me using keyboard buttons. I use spellbinder for anything that isn't a default mouse button.