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08/21/07, 12:18 PM
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#76 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Gnome Warlock
Tarren Mill (EU)
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Hi, as a Warlock and Raid Leader I've currently used Pitbull mainly because I liked the set up and because it was very easy to see the details I needed, aggro, hp, mana debuffs aso on the needed players. Together with the usual raid mods lik ora2, necb, dbm, bigwigs, xrs aso I've never really had any problems keeping up to what is going on. Now my PC has crashed (motherboard and perhaps the ram) so i have to use my old pc and It's not that good.
My question is : how is grid compared to pitbull on a semi crappy pc (i get 10-15 fps on intensive fights), fps lag is horrible when you need to stay on top of most situations.
Using the normal addons for warlocks :
Lylock
DoTimer
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ora2
bigwigs
ace
necb
dbm
xrs
Using Fubar and have removed most other addons that aren't needed for raiding (atlas, auctioneer, skinner, cartographer aso)
Any tips on low memory raid addons that will do the work is most welcome.
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08/21/07, 4:07 PM
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#77 (permalink)
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Hunter
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by Damokles
...very easy to see the details I needed, aggro, hp, mana debuffs...
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If this is all you want to see, Grid + GridManaBars will do everything you want.
Some undispellable debuffs may need to be added manually though.
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08/21/07, 5:11 PM
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#78 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Gnome Warlock
Tarren Mill (EU)
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Originally Posted by Sarutobi
If this is all you want to see, Grid + GridManaBars will do everything you want.
Some undispellable debuffs may need to be added manually though.
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Thx but is Grid lighter then Pitbulls raid set up regarding memory ?
Have searched a bit for that and I couldn't find a clear answer. I know It's kinda nubish since most end game raiders should have decent pc's but in cases like this when i have to use a older one to be able to join/lead memory and fps lightness is kinda vital.
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08/21/07, 7:09 PM
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#79 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Damokles
Thx but is Grid lighter then Pitbulls raid set up regarding memory ?
Have searched a bit for that and I couldn't find a clear answer. I know It's kinda nubish since most end game raiders should have decent pc's but in cases like this when i have to use a older one to be able to join/lead memory and fps lightness is kinda vital.
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From what I have seen it should be lighter, though it all depends on how you configure everything. It is also hard to gauge this as you are looking at pitbulls Total memory including other unit frames, vs grid which is just, well, grid thus making it hard to judge if Pitbull is saving/costing more memory.
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08/21/07, 7:32 PM
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#80 (permalink)
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Don Flamenco
Blood Elf Paladin
Baelgun
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I find the most handy Grid setting out of all of them is making "Aggro warning" bright red as the border condition.
Impossible to miss tank switches and aggro pulls.
It also works for pets in Arenas!
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08/24/07, 4:07 PM
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#81 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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I have really enjoyed using grid as a replacement for the usually space consuming raid bars. However, recently my UI got reset and Grid does not seem to want to return to the way it was working before. The only buffs I would like to see are AI and amp magic (for Gruul), but even with the Grid extra buffs pack I cannot manage to get them to show up after I enable them on the menu. I feel that perhaps my menu is bugged somehow, because many commands don't seem to work (such as people's health showing as deficit, which I don't care to see).
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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08/24/07, 5:00 PM
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#82 (permalink)
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Hunter
Mal'Ganis
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How was it reset?
Did you accidentally switch profiles?
Have you attempted to use the backup of the saved variables for it?
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08/24/07, 6:07 PM
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#83 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Sigea
Is it that the UI won't allow 2 functions from the mouse at the same time (mouseover and mouseclick?) or would it have to be something programmed into the mod?
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For click-casting look into Clique. It should give you the functionality you want and works well with Grid.
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08/27/07, 11:45 AM
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#84 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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I cannot get some of my totems to show up as buffs.
All are spelt correctly, but the only one that will show as a buff is Wrath of Air, anybody got an idea why the others won't show?
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08/27/07, 1:15 PM
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#85 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Draenei Shaman
Auchindoun (EU)
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i had the same prob. I got it fixed now, but no idea how i did it. Just removed buth buffs form aura menu and re-created them :/
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08/27/07, 2:08 PM
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#86 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Mannoroth
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So I recently started using Grid and quick have a question. Is there a way to sort the order that raid members are displayed. For example, if I wanted the MT warrior first followed by the 2 OT druids second and third with dps warriors later in the list.
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08/27/07, 2:24 PM
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#87 (permalink)
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Hunter
Mal'Ganis
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I haven't had a chance to test it out myself, but Grid oRa2 Layouts should provide what you're looking for (for tanks at least).
As far as changing the sorting order within columns for the rest of the raid, I've tried a few things via custom layouts, but haven't been successful in my attempts.
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08/28/07, 4:13 AM
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#88 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Troll Priest
Baelgun (EU)
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Originally Posted by Sarutobi
I haven't had a chance to test it out myself, but Grid oRa2 Layouts should provide what you're looking for (for tanks at least).
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I've tried these layouts on our last Gruul fight.
Even with the Code-correction the Grid-Dev posted in one of the wowace-forums, it didn't work. Instead of showing the Ora-.MTs, it showed the group I was in.
Anybody managed to get this working correctly?
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08/28/07, 5:12 AM
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#89 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Undead Priest
Tarren Mill (EU)
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Originally Posted by Maliva
Sorry I took a couple of days to get back to you, but yes it is working; however, I haven't figured out how to differentiate between my PoM or another priests PoM....that doesn't really matter though since they dont stack, the important thing is to see the buff on them so you dont overwrite it wasting mana.
Just have to create a new buff called "Prayer of Mending" and set the color/priority of the indicator and assign it to a spot on your grid box. When PoM jumps the grid indicator jumps to the individal it moved to.
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Seeing where PoM is, is not at all only mana issue. I use PoM to control agro in raid too quite often. So I recast it when need to make more agro to someone, or just take it away from target that might be in danger - threatmeter helps, but usually just using brains is enough.
Maybe it might be nice to see what is mine PoM, but there are hardly ever 2 holy priest in raid. PoM is awesome spell. So sad it wont show as priesthealing in meter. And there are no hope others would understand how you usefull it is for agro management... If their would, there might be more priests in raids. ;p
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08/28/07, 12:38 PM
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#90 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Mimosa
So sad it wont show as priesthealing in meter.
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Get yourself Recount. It tracks PoM (I have no idea how) and adds it to your effective healing.
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08/30/07, 2:30 PM
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#91 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Sarutobi
How was it reset?
Did you accidentally switch profiles?
Have you attempted to use the backup of the saved variables for it?
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Sorry for the slow reply, unfortunately shortly after I posted that my graphics card decided to overheat and crash (no idea how it happened). Prior to this occurrence I had to delete all my addons anyway when I was trying to see if it was WoW messing up or my graphics card (obviously it was the card). In any case, after loading it on again I am still unable to have Arcane Intellect show up on grid, even when I have the correct profile selected. Several people seem to have fixed a problem like this by creating the buff, how do you go about doing this?
thanks
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08/30/07, 2:55 PM
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#92 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Undead Rogue
Eldre'Thalas
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I am normally the Main Assist for my guild, and we have had alot of problems recently with people not following the correct target. What I would absolutely love is a Grid Indicator that would show up if someone had the same target selected as I have. Similar to how alot of Party frames will show party targets and can show if everyone is on the correct target or not. It might also be beneficial for healers that are assigned to the same target to easily identify if someone is off target or not. I visualize it, for example, as setting the border for each frame as MyTarget, then each unit that has the same target as myself selected gets a white border indicator, for example.
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08/30/07, 4:13 PM
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#93 (permalink)
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Hunter
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by virtuzoso
I am normally the Main Assist for my guild, and we have had alot of problems recently with people not following the correct target. What I would absolutely love is a Grid Indicator that would show up if someone had the same target selected as I have. Similar to how alot of Party frames will show party targets and can show if everyone is on the correct target or not. It might also be beneficial for healers that are assigned to the same target to easily identify if someone is off target or not. I visualize it, for example, as setting the border for each frame as MyTarget, then each unit that has the same target as myself selected gets a white border indicator, for example.
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I'm not sure about Grid, but the only UI I've seen that has that type of functionality is Xperl, which has an indicator that will show you exactly how many people are targetin the same mob you are.
Originally Posted by Apocalyptica
Sorry for the slow reply, unfortunately shortly after I posted that my graphics card decided to overheat and crash (no idea how it happened). Prior to this occurrence I had to delete all my addons anyway when I was trying to see if it was WoW messing up or my graphics card (obviously it was the card). In any case, after loading it on again I am still unable to have Arcane Intellect show up on grid, even when I have the correct profile selected. Several people seem to have fixed a problem like this by creating the buff, how do you go about doing this?
thanks
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Try using the backup of the saved variables for Grid. If it was workign for you previously, using the backup could potentially be the quickest way of restoring that functionality. As for creating buffs, I haven't attempted to make any changes in Grid aside from custom layouts so I wouldn't be able to help with that.
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08/30/07, 4:22 PM
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#94 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by ugla
You're misunderstanding the way a macro's button: modifier works. It pertains to how you click the button. You can't have a mouseover target and button modifier work for the same spell, because to right-click the button, the button is your mouseover target.
/cast [target=mouseover] Renew
/cast [button:2] Power Word: Shield
Will cast a renew on your mouseover target, or cast a PW:S on your current target if you right-click the button.
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I think you misunderstood my question. I know the difference between a mouseover and button: modifier. In fact, my question had nothing to do with that.
If I have a macro to cast renew on my "mouseover target" and I bind that macro to a key such as "E" it will cast renew if I'm "mousing over" a persons grid frame. If I bind that same macro to one of my mouse buttons instead such as "Middle Mouse", it will not cast renew on the person if I'm "mousing over" their grid frame.
My question is, if the UI is already using the mouse to check your "mouseover target", can it not execute a command issued via a mouse button?
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08/31/07, 10:35 AM
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#95 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Paladin
Zul'Jin
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Originally Posted by Nysus
So I recently started using Grid and quick have a question. Is there a way to sort the order that raid members are displayed. For example, if I wanted the MT warrior first followed by the 2 OT druids second and third with dps warriors later in the list.
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There's something very close. Instead of sorting by group-sort by class in the customizations. Warriors and Druids are the two leftmost columns. Makes for very easy tank healing for trash or multi tank encoutners.
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09/01/07, 10:48 AM
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#96 (permalink)
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Glass Joe
Troll Priest
Baelgun (EU)
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Originally Posted by Sigea
My question is, if the UI is already using the mouse to check your "mouseover target", can it not execute a command issued via a mouse button?
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You really want to bind left and right mousebutton?  would be too risky for me^^
I use the Macro /cast [modifier:shift, target=mouseover] Abolish Desease; [target=mouseover] Despell Magic
and have it on my Mouse-Button 4 (shift+MB4). So, i don't really know, if the first two MButtons are blocked or not, but maybe this information helps.
ah, just to mention. I don't use this macro in an original way, i have it bound to the buttons via Clique.
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09/05/07, 7:49 AM
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#97 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Imp
You really want to bind left and right mousebutton?  would be too risky for me^^
I use the Macro /cast [modifier:shift, target=mouseover] Abolish Desease; [target=mouseover] Despell Magic
and have it on my Mouse-Button 4 (shift+MB4). So, i don't really know, if the first two MButtons are blocked or not, but maybe this information helps.
ah, just to mention. I don't use this macro in an original way, i have it bound to the buttons via Clique.
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I have thumb buttons on my mouse that I use, I can also click my mousewheel as a mousebutton, if you count shift and control modifiers (no alt) I have 9 extra buttons I can use on my mouse aside from left and right click.
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09/06/07, 8:59 AM
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#98 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
Undead Warrior
Earthen Ring
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I just switched to grid last night from sRaidframes and I'm having a bit of problem with it.
I'm mostly using it to save space on my UI and it does a good job of that. It's the arrangement that is the biggest problem I've found.
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do the following:
1. Sort by Class
2. Then Sort only for 25man
3. Display name and health deficit without the -NUMBER appearing.
Sraid frames allowed me to say "OK groups 1-5 only and then sort by the class" We usually leave people in groups 7 and 8 for swapping in and out as required by the boss or for composition. When I just sort by Class it sorts all 8 groups and I don't need to see that as MT it can be confusing when to call a wipe or when to keep going.
Are there filters I am missing here?
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09/06/07, 11:52 AM
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#99 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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"OK groups 1-5 only and then sort by the class"
I'd love to be able to do that too, I'm fairly sure it's within the capabilities of the mod but not seen it in either the default layouts or in the "layouts for healers" module unless I'm missing something.
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09/06/07, 12:30 PM
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#100 (permalink)
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Von Kaiser
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GRID freezes and frequently crashes for me when I join a raid (especially in BGs and 40 mans). I have perused through this thread as well as the FAQ/forums on the WoWAce website for a solution but haven't found one which works. I did read that deleting the GRID associated files in saved variables folder should fix it but it only proved to be temporary. A few days after I deleted the files I again started to freeze and crash when joining raids. Any help would be much appreciated.
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