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Old 09/13/07, 1:20 PM   12 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #126 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Liryn View Post
This idea was mentioned briefly much earlier in this thread, but I wanted to get some more input and advice. I was wondering if anyone (healers especially) uses Grid as their only unit frames, for every size of group from a 2-man arena team to a 10 man Kara group to 40 AFK'ers in AV.
I do. I don't find that there is any information that I do need in a 5-man group that I don't need in a raid. And so if grid is enough to manage while I'm in a raid, it's enough to manage when I'm in a smaller group.
 
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Old 09/13/07, 5:52 PM   #127 (permalink)
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I have Pitbull for my party frames atm but am strongly considering even using Grid for 5mans. It's just so much easier in Grid than having big party frames floating around.
 
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Old 09/14/07, 5:35 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Grid newb here, although they are my usual raid frames for buffing and monitoring reasons.

How would I add say, Kael's MC to a corner/debuff/whatever? I'd like to have the mouseover sheep thing going. Sorry for terseness, I'm tired.
 
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Old 09/17/07, 1:34 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
Grid newb here, although they are my usual raid frames for buffing and monitoring reasons.

How would I add say, Kael's MC to a corner/debuff/whatever? I'd like to have the mouseover sheep thing going. Sorry for terseness, I'm tired.
I learned how to do this earlier in this thread

Originally Posted by dukes
You need to make sure that the ability is spelt correctly (and capitalised correctly, in this case 'Icebolt' is correct) as well as having it turned on in the right frame option (center icon). Then make sure that it's set up as a debuff, not as a buff, and is set to a relatively high priority (for something like that setting it to 99 is probably the best thing to do). It should just take the debuff icon from the debuff affecting them, rather than taking it from a file. I know people in the guild that have both Water Tomb and Watery Grave set up for Hydross and SSC, as well as Deadly Poison for Council, so it definitely works on "non-standard" debuffs/buffs.
This has really helped me a ton in healing in encounters with important debuffs .

But as he said, go to Status -> Auras -> Add new debuff, type the debuffs name in, then go to Frame -> Center icon(if you want the debuffs icon use can use center, if you just want a corner highlighted go to the appropriate corner)-> And check the debuffs name that you added.
 
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Old 09/17/07, 7:29 AM   #130 (permalink)
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ive also found Grid best healer tool, thanks to center icon debuffs where im placing all important boss debuffs, inc heals, aggro alert.
sometimes i see some events earlier than DBM or BigWigs alerts are shown

and if someone looking for pets in grid (what i needed for loooong time, specially now - when one of our locks changed build on demo) there is dev version: Revision 49113: /branches/Grid/jerry/Grid
 
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Old 09/17/07, 1:17 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Can you make timers (aka time left on LB/MOTW/Rejuv/Renew) show up over/around the corner & side icons or is that feature available over center icons only? The actual NECB/Quartz mod cast bars take up too much screenspace for my liking. I think I have a HoT timer addon for Grid but I also think it doesn't do timers over corner icons or I haven't been able to figure out how to make it do that. I want to eliminate the stack of cast bars altogether if possible.

If anyone can tell me how to do this; I would appreciate it very much.


This is my current Grid picture for reference. Small white line at bottom of raid member designates mana bar. Health decreases from right to left with a right-side text designating amount missing. I have the different corners assigned to different HoTs/inc heals/missing GOTW.

 
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Old 09/23/07, 8:06 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Northerner View Post
Grid newb here, although they are my usual raid frames for buffing and monitoring reasons.

How would I add say, Kael's MC to a corner/debuff/whatever? I'd like to have the mouseover sheep thing going. Sorry for terseness, I'm tired.
You need the specific name of the debuff applied to people when they get MC'd by Kael, then you add that as a debuff, set priority/colour, then add it to your indicator of choice (corner? center icon? up to you).

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Old 09/25/07, 6:23 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Quick question here, sorry for the lack of details but I am at work and can't check the versions used and such. I will specify later.

Has anyone else encountered a problem with Grid not updating players' health? Sometimes Grid just seems to leave a health deficit up for a player even though they are at full health. It's not just a delay, the health bar simply won't update even out of combat. At the same time Xperl party frames are showing the health correctly.
 
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Old 09/25/07, 10:19 AM   #134 (permalink)
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I have that but only for people out of range. Was wondering about it as well.
 
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Old 09/25/07, 2:12 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lieska View Post
Quick question here, sorry for the lack of details but I am at work and can't check the versions used and such. I will specify later.

Has anyone else encountered a problem with Grid not updating players' health? Sometimes Grid just seems to leave a health deficit up for a player even though they are at full health. It's not just a delay, the health bar simply won't update even out of combat. At the same time Xperl party frames are showing the health correctly.
Make sure you don't have Low Mana Status asigned to the health bar or any other status that might conflict.

This was an issue for me.. bascially when someone was low on mana the health bar would stay at max. Once I correct that, it never happened again.
 
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Old 09/26/07, 11:23 PM   #136 (permalink)
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also, having range filter on health status means that it'll show anyone out of range as full health.
 
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Old 09/28/07, 2:18 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Hey guys, not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but no one has mentioned it. Since the 2.2 patch, my range checker seems to be off. It works, but it says people are OOR when they're actually not. It's really annoying, especially for healing fights like Morogrim where I do Grave healing and the easiest way to see who got graved is to check their range. Unfortunately that doesn't work so well when it says half of them are OOR

Anyone know how to change the range to make it a bit further? I'm not sure how it got changed, but it's driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 10/01/07, 1:59 AM   #138 (permalink)
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I absolutely love Grid and have been using it ever since I made my raiding main a priest in April. However I just recently added the Incoming Heals component and am a little confused as to the functionality. It seems to only predict values for heals that I cast, which kind of defeats the purpose as far as I'm concerned--I know what MY heals hit for, I just want to know what others' heals will hit for, especially when I know that they're casting a heal on said target because I have a corner square indicating someone other than myself is casting a heal on that target. Am I just going about setting up the IH predictor completely wrong?
 
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Old 10/01/07, 3:01 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bohemienne View Post
I absolutely love Grid and have been using it ever since I made my raiding main a priest in April. However I just recently added the Incoming Heals component and am a little confused as to the functionality. It seems to only predict values for heals that I cast, which kind of defeats the purpose as far as I'm concerned--I know what MY heals hit for, I just want to know what others' heals will hit for, especially when I know that they're casting a heal on said target because I have a corner square indicating someone other than myself is casting a heal on that target. Am I just going about setting up the IH predictor completely wrong?
never mind, misread your post
 
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Old 10/01/07, 12:07 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Since the 2.2 patch, I've been having problems with the addon, GridStatusHots. It doesn't show hots on people from other servers in BGs. If the person is from my server it works great, otherwise it won't show a hot on them at all. I looked through the code, and added some debug statements, and it appears GridStatusHots is getting the right hot count, but somehow it gets lost before it triggers a status change in Grid. Any ideas?
 
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Old 10/08/07, 1:15 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sigea View Post
I think you misunderstood my question. I know the difference between a mouseover and button: modifier. In fact, my question had nothing to do with that.

If I have a macro to cast renew on my "mouseover target" and I bind that macro to a key such as "E" it will cast renew if I'm "mousing over" a persons grid frame. If I bind that same macro to one of my mouse buttons instead such as "Middle Mouse", it will not cast renew on the person if I'm "mousing over" their grid frame.

My question is, if the UI is already using the mouse to check your "mouseover target", can it not execute a command issued via a mouse button?
Did you get an answer to this yet, Sigea? I'm having the exact same issue, and it seems to be independent of what unit frames you use (I experience the same thing with grid, pitbull, x-perl and the default party/raid frames (even with all addons disabled)).

Stranger still, mouseover someone running around in the world environment and it works fine. Hover over a frame, and it does not work. I'm a total macro rookie, so I made a post in the UI forums and the only advice I've been given so far is to use Clique, which I guess I'll have to do. Like you, my goal was to just use mouse buttons 4/5 and MM plus modifiers for healing/dispelling, and I am trying to avoid needing another mod like Clique.

Here's my post in the UI forums

WoW Forums -> Mouseover macro problem w/ unit frames
 
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Old 10/08/07, 3:14 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Just been testing this, (I use RDX as all default frames)
No issue at all with either the same spell bound to a key or mouse button, or different spells under the same button modifier / mouse click
My suggestion is get Clique, it'll save you alot of headache
 
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Old 10/09/07, 4:58 AM   #143 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bohemienne View Post
I absolutely love Grid and have been using it ever since I made my raiding main a priest in April. However I just recently added the Incoming Heals component and am a little confused as to the functionality. It seems to only predict values for heals that I cast, which kind of defeats the purpose as far as I'm concerned--I know what MY heals hit for, I just want to know what others' heals will hit for, especially when I know that they're casting a heal on said target because I have a corner square indicating someone other than myself is casting a heal on that target. Am I just going about setting up the IH predictor completely wrong?
The incoming heals component you speak of gets it's data from the Incoming Heals Library. Incoming heals is a standalone addon, which add small numbers on unitframes whenever a heal is inc. It also has a pretty awesome graph feature which I can't live without.
Back to your question. Every healer needs to have the Incoming HealsLib installed for it to work properly. I don't know if IHLib is included in the Grid component, but I have all three (Incoming Heals, Incoming HealsLib and the Grid component) and I've set is as a rec that all healers need to have IH to raid with us. Ofc I tell them how to use it so that they also can get the advantage.
 
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Old 10/09/07, 10:07 AM   #144 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Yessia View Post
But as he said, go to Status -> Auras -> Add new debuff, type the debuffs name in, then go to Frame -> Center icon(if you want the debuffs icon use can use center, if you just want a corner highlighted go to the appropriate corner)-> And check the debuffs name that you added.
If anyone cares, here is a list of debuffs I have inputted into center icons that I personally feel are important to know about for every fight from Gruul to Illidan, sorted appropriately.

http://pinchet.com/~wow/grid_center_icons.txt

Not everyone will want every one of those, because some are magic specific and people who can't dispel may not want to show those, but a lot of these are just spells that cause 1 person a lot of damage so I can react to healing them faster.

For the majority of fights I just turn Bigwigs off now, because it would just be announcing the same shit I can see on my center icons already. Saves a couple FPS.
 
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Old 10/09/07, 9:11 PM   #145 (permalink)
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Can't seem to figure something out, maybe you folk can help.

In an effort to get rid of some memory usage, I uninstalled Decursive. My initial thought was "I'll just start using Grid". I don't see a reason to have Decursive when I already have Grid showing curses, but there are two things that I miss from Decursive that I cant seem to get Grid to do.

First, I loved the noise that Decursive made every time someone was cursed, and would love to somehow add that to Grid, but I can't find a way to do it. Is it even possible?

Second, I got used to just right-clicking the Decursive mini unit frames, so is it possible to replicate this with Grid? I know how to do a mouse-over Macro, but i am talking about somehow making it so that every time i right-click on a frame in Grid, it casts Decurse.

So what do you think, do I have a hope or should I just go back to Decursive?
 
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Old 10/09/07, 10:16 PM   #146 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pinchet View Post
If anyone cares, here is a list of debuffs I have inputted into center icons that I personally feel are important to know about for every fight from Gruul to Illidan, sorted appropriately.

http://pinchet.com/~wow/grid_center_icons.txt

Not everyone will want every one of those, because some are magic specific and people who can't dispel may not want to show those, but a lot of these are just spells that cause 1 person a lot of damage so I can react to healing them faster.
Nice list, thank you.
 
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Old 10/09/07, 10:31 PM   #147 (permalink)
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Second, I got used to just right-clicking the Decursive mini unit frames, so is it possible to replicate this with Grid? I know how to do a mouse-over Macro, but i am talking about somehow making it so that every time i right-click on a frame in Grid, it casts Decurse.
This is easily done with Clique, though I'm not sure if the memory usage would warrent dropping Decursive (its more of a healer addon).

I dont think the sound can be done without editing the lua yourself, but you should try asking on WoWace IRC, those guys are great at questions like these.
 
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Old 10/09/07, 11:43 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Well, another little part of it is that I don't want the mini unit frames taking up unnecessary room in my tiny UI (I desperately need a new monitor, sigh...)
 
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Old 10/10/07, 3:30 AM   #149 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Camora View Post
First, I loved the noise that Decursive made every time someone was cursed, and would love to somehow add that to Grid, but I can't find a way to do it. Is it even possible?
GridAlert does what you're looking for. Read about it here.
 
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