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Old 08/28/07, 6:22 AM   #1
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Pitbull vs AG_UF

Back when there was a bug that Blizzard later fixed, I switched to Pitbull from AG_UF as the latter kept bugging out and freezing the game whenever I entered raids. AV weekend was the proverbial straw (guess why) and I got Pitbull.

After some initial annoyance with that (not saving settings etc etc), it's now fairly smooth. It has a boatload of nifty features and all sorts of other goodies...

However... as you might've read in the Pitbull thread, it glitches when there's a change in the raid. A layer/frame goes from opaque to 50% grey or even 100%, effectively ruining your view. (Gotta love when that happens in a BG.)
I haven't found the cause of this bug yet, and throughout the various updates this bug has remained.

This bug is causing me to rethink on Pitbull and considering going back to AG_UF.

I'd like to hear a bit from other people if they feel going back to AG_UF would be worthwhile, or if they feel I'd better stick it out with Pitbull.
(Note, I didn't post this in the Pitbull thread as I'm interested at least as much in AG_UF and am hoping for a direct comparison.)

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Old 08/28/07, 6:38 AM   #2
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I went back to agUF (from Pitbull) because I was having consistent issues where after a crash in a raid, I wouldn't be able to get back in. agUF is somewhat less flexible than Pitbull, but since I don't use either for my raid healing (Grid), I'm not that worried. My only major gripe is it doesn't enlarge your buffs/debuffs on a target with the clockface tickdown kinda thing that Pitbull does.

However, I haven't actually crashed in a raid since I uninstalled Pitbull last week, so who knows if Pitbull was actually the problem.

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Old 08/28/07, 8:15 AM   #3
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WoWInterface Downloads : Sage UnitFrames

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Old 08/28/07, 9:35 AM   #4
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Can't say I have, as I didn't even know it.

Is it based on Ace2 ? It's not listed on their pages and am trying to keep the mods Ace-based as much as possible. Other than that, from a quick look at the screenies, I think I'd prefer Aguf or Pitbull regardless.

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Old 08/28/07, 11:42 AM   #5
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Im using Astika's Spartan compilation atm and switched from aguf to PitBull. PitBull by far out-does aguf in pretty much every way, shape, and form.

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Old 08/28/07, 12:01 PM   #6
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I am using Pitbull, and I love it. I used ag_uf before and Pitbull is much nicer and has alot more options.

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Old 08/28/07, 1:26 PM   #7
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Performance wise, Ag_uf seems to be taking up significantly less resources than Pitbull, which I like. That's partly a result of Ag_uf having less features and nowhere near the level of customization that Pitbull does. Even though my frames are kinda boring, it's nice being able to see debuffs on my target and not having a crazy aura module eating up resources. That said, I'm thinking of going back to Pitbull because Ag_uf's limited options has been bugging the bejeezus out of me recently.

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Old 08/28/07, 3:48 PM   #8
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I switched from Pitbull back to Ag_Uf about a month ago because of performance issues (the whole Aura module situation), but I'm beginning to think that neither of them are exactly what I'm looking for. Pitbull uses too many resources, because of all the different features and options. Ag_uf is fit and lean on the performance side, but lacks a ton of customization that Pitbull delivers. I'm stuck!

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Old 08/28/07, 5:23 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Camora View Post
I switched from Pitbull back to Ag_Uf about a month ago because of performance issues (the whole Aura module situation), but I'm beginning to think that neither of them are exactly what I'm looking for. Pitbull uses too many resources, because of all the different features and options. Ag_uf is fit and lean on the performance side, but lacks a ton of customization that Pitbull delivers. I'm stuck!
Have been feeling pretty much the same. Thinking I'll be staying with Pitbull though.

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Old 08/28/07, 5:35 PM   #10
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I love agUF, but I switched over to Pitbull for the 5SR bar thingy. I know I can probably find a mod that can measure it, but the fact that it's built into the UF itself is pretty irreplacable.

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Old 08/28/07, 5:59 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
Can't say I have, as I didn't even know it.

Is it based on Ace2 ? It's not listed on their pages and am trying to keep the mods Ace-based as much as possible. Other than that, from a quick look at the screenies, I think I'd prefer Aguf or Pitbull regardless.
It's not Ace but it supports Ace2 SharedMedia, so you can use any textures/fonts etc you want. The old screenshots on the wowinterface page are not really indicative of what you can achieve at all.

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Old 08/28/07, 8:18 PM   #12
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Sage looks ugly as hell though.

I'm using AG_UF, never had any problems with it, and that is exactly the reason why I've never tried out pitbull. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, ala.

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Old 08/28/07, 10:20 PM   #13
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Quick question: I've been using Pitbull since the early days of its release, but I'm starting to want to give AG_UF another shot just to see what it's like now. Could someone tell me how to save my Pitbull settings so I could grab AGUF, play around with it, and go back to Pitbull without starting from scratch?

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Old 08/28/07, 10:29 PM   #14
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Settings for Pitbull should be saved in your WTF folder, (or possibly in savedvariables), I changed to ag_UF for a few hours the other day without copying anything, then went straight back to Pitbull without losing any settings, so you shouldn't need to copy anything.

(If you do want to be sure though, make a copy of your WTF folder, which should contain all the settings for Pitbull)

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Old 08/29/07, 6:23 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by Camora View Post
I switched from Pitbull back to Ag_Uf about a month ago because of performance issues (the whole Aura module situation), but I'm beginning to think that neither of them are exactly what I'm looking for. Pitbull uses too many resources, because of all the different features and options. Ag_uf is fit and lean on the performance side, but lacks a ton of customization that Pitbull delivers. I'm stuck!
I felt the same way. I really enjoyed Pitbull, but with the constant errors I was getting, made it unplayable. I am currently using the default blizzard UI while I wait for Pitbull to, hopefully, be fixed or a new addon to come out. :\

But Sage is not going to be that new addon >_>. I'm going to have to agree with Daize that Sage looks pretty bad.

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Old 08/29/07, 8:07 AM   #16
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I've not really had any errors with PitBull and I've been running and updating in since basically the day it was put on the wowace SVN. What other mods are you using?

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Old 08/29/07, 3:30 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Camora View Post
I switched from Pitbull back to Ag_Uf about a month ago because of performance issues (the whole Aura module situation), but I'm beginning to think that neither of them are exactly what I'm looking for. Pitbull uses too many resources, because of all the different features and options. Ag_uf is fit and lean on the performance side, but lacks a ton of customization that Pitbull delivers. I'm stuck!
You can't get both, more customization requires more code which means performance takes a hit, being given 500 options isn't always a good thing.

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Old 08/29/07, 6:00 PM   #18
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agUF doesn't have a party's target functionality, which I deem as very important.

(Maybe this is offtopic a bit, but I am using xperl. Functionality wise, it is top notch quality, performance wise, it is pretty decent too. Just its look isn't compatible with all of my other ace2 addons, but I can bear with it.

Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
Back when there was a bug that Blizzard later fixed, I switched to Pitbull from AG_UF as the latter kept bugging out and freezing the game whenever I entered raids. AV weekend was the proverbial straw (guess why) and I got Pitbull.

After some initial annoyance with that (not saving settings etc etc), it's now fairly smooth. It has a boatload of nifty features and all sorts of other goodies...

However... as you might've read in the Pitbull thread, it glitches when there's a change in the raid. A layer/frame goes from opaque to 50% grey or even 100%, effectively ruining your view. (Gotta love when that happens in a BG.)
I haven't found the cause of this bug yet, and throughout the various updates this bug has remained.

This bug is causing me to rethink on Pitbull and considering going back to AG_UF.

I'd like to hear a bit from other people if they feel going back to AG_UF would be worthwhile, or if they feel I'd better stick it out with Pitbull.
(Note, I didn't post this in the Pitbull thread as I'm interested at least as much in AG_UF and am hoping for a direct comparison.)

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Old 08/29/07, 7:48 PM   #19
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I swapped from ag_uf to Pitbull. Takes a few more resources but not enough to bother me, and I haven't had any problems with it (as opposed to ag_uf where the unit frames occasionally bugged and I'd have to reload the addon to get them to work properly).

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Old 08/29/07, 10:42 PM   #20
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I would only use AG_UF if they implemented party targets. And to a lesser extent pet target (useful for felhunter.) I'm yet to experience any errors or problems with Pitbull having used it for a while. Only difference is a bit more memory, but that's expected.

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Old 08/30/07, 6:00 AM   #21
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I experienced some odd behavior with PitBull and the art from buffs / debuffs managing to relocate and resize itself to cover whatever frame it should have been attached to, so I just disabled the aura module and have been running Buffalo for my target's debuffs. It seems like the aura module's what most people are having issues with -- perhaps we should all just find alternative buff mods.

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Old 08/30/07, 3:38 PM   #22
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I recently switched from Xperl to AG_UF. I wanted to try Pitbull but I see too many problems with it at the moment.

I like AG-UF frames better than Xperl however Xperl does seem to be less buggy and provide more bells and whistles.

I really miss Xperl's ability to show AFK, Party Targets, Pet Target, etc.

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Old 08/31/07, 12:44 PM   #23
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I use Pitbull myself, and while I wish it used less resources, I have a hard time going back to anything else, and I've tried just about everything I can find. Nothing is worse than having unit frames you absolutely hate.

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Old 08/31/07, 7:58 PM   #24
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I used to think that pitbull was to blame for my in-combat FPS dropping to <10, but now that I've switched back to ag_uf, I'm still getting similar performance. One of these days I have to try raiding with all my addons off to see if addons really are the culprit.

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Old 08/31/07, 8:24 PM   #25
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Haven't had any problems at all with pitbull since I switched from xperl, allthough, the problems with logging in after a crash has to be a processorusage/computer issue, all the ppl in my guild with aged computers get this problem even with deactivated addons, while others can run both grid and pitbull/aguf at the same time without any problem at all.

Sage unitframes, as someone mentioned, are kinda nice though. Very slimmed and fast unitframes which I needed with my old system.

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