It's like a quest for the holy grail for me....

I absolutely love my trusted old Razer Viper mouse,

because it's small, light and very fast/sensitive (i.e. don't have to move the mouse for miles before the pointer crosses the screen). But it lacks buttons! It might help to mention that I'm a female gamer, and every single Razer successor mouse (Krait being borderline) since the Viper is simply too big for my hands to reach the scroll wheel comfortably . Wish they hadn't changed the format/size. So I have a box full of Copperheads, Habus, Deathadders etc and am still looking for a small, fast, light gaming mouse with 5+ buttons.

Though.. currently I'm experimenting with a Microsoft laser 6000.

Not bad.. light, and my hand can reach the main buttons and the wheel.. but not perfect (the side buttons are a tad out of reach).. and can't find a driver to make it move faster.

For a keyboard, I prefer simple Dell

or IBM

standard/slim keyboards. Again, have tried Tarantulas , G15s, Saitek Eclipse's etc and just can't hit the keys as well in a hurry as on a simple but solid standard keyboard with reliable and clearly defined buttons.

/edit: Forgot the headset: Sennheiser PC150.. very happy with it. It's light, awesome quality and has a reasonably small footprint (sense a pattern?).

Hello

My first post here, but i was reading this forum for a long time
I read here about many things that helped me alot and i need only one more thing.

Is there any way to get same effect on standar keyboard like on G15. I mean macros, i was thinking about making specified key to do for example 0,2 sec hits when i am holding it.
I need this coz spamming 1 key as BM Hunter for 3-4 hours is real pain

I believe you can get somewhat the same effect with a newer mouse that has scrolling buttons. With the software following the product you can increase the number of scrolls per click and gain the effect of holding down one buttton spam. I know it works with Logitech MX518. I used it for 2 weeks before I got G15 for my birthday. And I must say the difference is quite huge in favor of G15.

On topic: Logitech MX518 mouse. Feels good in the hand, but it tends to get dirty quite fast. Small "traces" of dirt gathers near your fingertips. If you try to clean it up you might be unlucky and some of it sticks under the surface and you cant click :S
Logitech G15 keyboard. Pure win. Its just impressive.
Steelseries 5H v2 USB headset. The sound quality is good and the enourmous earcuffs are really pleasent dispite the looks

I got MX 510, but i dont understand what you mean. Shal i use scroll wheel constantly to get that effect or those small buttons used to fast forward/backward documents that are locacet in front and behind wheel ?
In software wheel is 3 ( midle button ) and fast forward buttons ( cruise up/down ) are 7 and 8.
Other thing i got limited options ti sign functions to wheel and fast forward buttons. I can set function like "cut" , "double click" etc , but i cant set key like "3" or sth.

EDIT.

Ok i binded "cruise up" to my macro button in Bongos and voila ! Works like a charm
Thx for help.

I've seen this discussed a little in the wow forums, but was curious if anyone has in depth experience with using a foot pedal (usb or otherwise) and having it function within the game. There seems to be a decent amount around (Weapon is one, or the ones standardly used for voice transcription), and it'd be interesting to know which ones can and can't work with the game.

Personally, I would love to get one purely to use as my Vent push to talk key. Since I'm a raid leader, I end up constantly talking during bosses, and it takes a little bit away from what I can do during the fight. It would be pretty awesome to just use a foot pedal for it, and free up my hands fully for the keyboard/mouse.

As of now, I'm not using anything but the kayboard on my laptop. When I move into a house and get my desktop back, I'll go back to my Nostromo and G15.

I also use a Razer Lachesis...



Best mouse I've used. All of it's buttons give me another bar to work with without moving my hand.

If your buttons are hidden you won't see the shift in game. Most people on this forum seem to hide most of their bars. Hence seeing the visual que isn't imortant to them. Also, the LEDs on the n52te are bright as hell so you do get a visual que that you can use to confirm which "state" your bars are in. I fail to see your point other than you want to be able to see the bars change on the screen because you choose to show your bars.

Also, anyone know a way to map the G keys on the G15? I was wondering if there is a way I can map them so they have their own input instead of one from the regular keys on the keyboard.

I've always wondered how someone could use one of these things. Do you use the mouse with your left hand? Or do you just use your left hand for the arrow keys way over on the right?

the buttons on the right of the zboard are not combat-crucial keys, theyre simply convenience so you can rebind others.

With a mostly-social game like WoW, and the fact I'm normally hitting the space bar in the centre - the space bar split right there would be so fucking irritating after a very short period of time. Or?

Fair enough. How useful are the left side buttons anyway? A saw a high def picture of a section and it had like "reply", "guiild chat" - surely just pressing 'r' or typing '/g' would be quicker than moving you hand across the keyboard? I might be wrong and the buttons you gain from rebinding respective keys are worth it, though.

The default keys aren't very useful. Never tried rebinding to make it more functional. The default keys are things like bags, character sheet, quest log, etc., which is much easier to use the regular keyboard for rather than having to move your hand to the side. We stopped using it and went back to the "normal" ZBoard keyboard. Great concept, works better on other games with their specific keyboards, though. For WoW, not so much. I'll stick with my X-Keys, finding it much more useful.

Never mind.

I know this specific question has been answered before, but can I get some input from people as to which is better, given the N52, N52TE, and the Saitek ProGamer? I'm looking to pick up one of these fairly soon, and with the TE having been out on the market long enough now to get some opinions back, I'd love to hear whether it's worth paying the extra to snag it rather than one of the other two. Currently I'm leaning toward the Saitek, but I'm open to the other two as well.

Don't waste the money on the TE. I have both the n52 & n52te. Not really a performance difference I notice. Software is updated and it looks better. Buttons seem to be easier to press but that isn't a reason to spend the extra $$.

Haven't played with a Saitek, between the n52 and the n52te, save some $$ and get the n52.

You play with the touchpad?

I've had both and I def like the TE over the regular version. The finger buttons are overall easier to press, although the biggest improvement over the original is the thumb button on the TE registers every time regardless of where/how you hit the button and it doesn't get stuck sideways when you press it.

The most performance improving investition I did the last month was the new Plantronics CS60 Headset. Not that cheap with around 200€ (~300$) but worth every cent. Impressive sound quality, noise reduction and very smooth wearing comfort for long raiding nights. No swelter by oversized headsets.

I broke my N52 (which I liked a lot) and unfortunately BestBuy didn't have any more in stock, so I grabbed the Saitek Cyborg pad...

I don't really like it a whole lot yet. I miss the big orange thumb button I used to target the closest mob. I was previously using the d-pad on the N52 to toggle shift, hit escape and mount and the F-keys at the top of the Cyborg don't really work out the same. I don't really like the software, I find it a little less elegant than the N52 software. The palm button is nice for shift/alt/ctrl or whatever modifier you like though, I like that a lot. I've bound the thumb buttons to space and shift, although I'm not sure I shouldn't turn the space into tab, cause I'm honestly forgetting why I had space bound to anything at all since the only time i use it is to stop casting... The d-pad stick thing is weird and I haven't tried it yet. I'm pondering using that for movement and freeing up my WASD in the middle of the pad for more skills, but change scares me as I've been using WASD for years and years.

The feel of the pad though, I think is far superior to the N52 and it definitely stays on the desk better and in the right spot. I think my fingers fit to the pad better and my hand isn't as cramped. The buttons are more tactile and I like that. The LED backlight is nice, with the 3 different colors, and I'm not sure I'd enjoy the bright blue LED background of the new N52TE. Plus the orange glow matches my G15 a bit better.

I think that once I get used to the semi-crap key programming interface (I was lazy when i first did it, because my main objective was to find out how to bind the goddamn palm button to shift and it wasn't very intuitive) it might actually be a better pad than the N52. It's definitely easier to make multi-key combos. It's even easier to make multi-press macros in the keys. It's just a bit more confusing at first than with the N52 which was 3rd grade simple.

I'd basically just say it's a tossup really, so if you're worried about money get whatever's cheaper, if you're an impulse shopper get whatever BestBuy happens to have on the shelf.

Yessir. It's not as bad as you might think. I've become adjusted to it.

Why not just get the Logitech Mac Keyboard+Mouse duo? I used that when I played on a Mac and it was fine.