Yeah, I mentioned mine near the beginning of this thread.

Turning doesn't really give me a problem because I turn 90% of the time with the mouse. For me the fantastic thing about the movement controls in the base is their use as a secondary controller to supplement the mouse - as opposed to being a replacement for the mouse (keyboard turning will always be clunkier than mouse and the SC just emulates keystrokes). I tank a lot and it lets me do things like back up or strafe while using the mouse to look over my shoulder. As well, using a combination of the mouse and the controller makes strafing in a circular motion fairly straightforward. When I need any sharp movements it is mouse all the way.

I tried the N52TE but its keyboard keys feel clunky in comparison to the Strategic Commander and the D-hat is such an awkward replacement for the moveable base of Microsoft's product.

Alas, the slip and play of my old Strategic Commander and the fact that its drivers get more and more obsolete each year say very loudly to me that it is in its geriatric years and won't be with me a lot longer.

The problem you're describing is also referred to as having low "rollover" (Rollover(key)-Wikipedia). I PvP pretty competitively, and I got sick of executing some ninja-quality actions in arena with strafe+forward+jump+modifier+randomkeybind, then failing anyway because my keyboard refused to register certain key combinations. Having a movement key not register is definitely the worst, especially when you're pillar kiting a melee class.

This led to me searching for the most reliable keyboard I could find with 6-key or greater rollover. I settled on a Das Keyboard after purchasing a G15 revision2 and returning it to the store the next day due to how awful and unresponsive the keys are on the redesigned (orange backlight) version (It may have been redesigned again since. My original post about it, and my first impressions on the Das Keyboard, are here: WoW and the Logitech G15 Keyboard - Elitist Jerks).

It's been almost a year now and I'm very satisfied with the keyboard, even with the $100 price tag (I got $30 off since I pre-ordered). Users of IBM model M's are likely to be pretty pleased with it, and it has TWELVE-key rollover. I've yet to find a keypress that does not register without pressing more buttons than I have fingers. If you want a sturdy, reliable, no-frills keyboard that won't fail you, and you have the cash to blow, get a Das Keyboard.

Anyone know if those rudder pedals that are used in flight sims can be bound as keys? Alt and Ctrl aren't always all that convenient for me. Would be great if I could use my foot instead.

Saitek's Pro Flight Rudder Pedals use the "Saitek Smart Technology" programming software. It will allow you to bind just about anything to the pedals.

Well I came back trying to delete this post but I guess I am not able to. Anyway, thanks for the reply, I found what I was looking for.

Logitech's G13 works on Macs, but I believe the LCD Panel might not have the ability to display who is speaking on Ventrilo but that is the only shortcoming I've read about. As far as if it'd work well for a hunter - that is largely dependent on how you set up your keybindings on the G13 and in-game. If set up well, it can improve how quickly you use your abilities. It's an excellent tool in my experience.

I'm also using the G15-MX518 combo and love it to death. Actually, I nearly panicked a year ago when I realized that the MX518 was getting increasingly harder to come by and bought 3 of them. I have tried out a lot of different models when it comes to mice and the MX518 just flat out wins over any other mouse thanks to all the buttons you can configure. I just couldn't live without it and I don't understand why Logitech don't make a new model with the same button setup or a better one!? Many of the new mice out there seem to suffer from to few buttons and that alone is the major reason why I don't buy them but rather go out of my way to find another MX518.

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This thing looks incredible. I wish I hadn't bought a mouse like a month ago because this truly looks like the first mouse (including the Steelseries WoW Mouse) that is designed exactly to my spec. My first question when considering a mouse is "how many buttons does it have?".

I said this at another place already. Do you really think you can reliably hit all those 12 thumb buttons? On demand? This looks like a really bad design error from my point of view as I can't think of a way to make those 12 buttons work.

Razer mice: we either have 2 buttons or 90.

This might convince you otherwise: YouTube - Razer Naga™ Trainer Video. Still, there are no guarantees.

Also here's an introduction! YouTube - Razer Naga™ Introduction Video

And they even got their own WoW addon: YouTube - Razer Naga™ key binding and add ons in-game configuration.

The mouse was just announced a couple days ago. I don't believe it is available yet.

Yes. I can hit buttons probably half that size accurately from muscle memory with a lot more speed than the once-every-1.5s WoW demands using only my 2 thumbs (and I'm not alone or else QWERTY flip phones/touchscreens would be a marketing flop instead of pretty much driving mobile sales in mature markets since the credit collapse)

I've been holding off on buying a new mouse for awhile but 12 side buttons is definitely appealing. I can see the concern with being able to reliably hit them but (as Opioid alluded to) I would think it's no different than dialing a flip style cell phone or using the remote control for a tv. I would imagine most don't have to look down to use either it's just something we don't think about. My question is does it have a marker? Like on cell phones or even the number pad on most keyboards have a raised section of the 5 button for a reference point.

I got a LogitechG13 yesterday and played around with it for a little bit. So far, I think its an well made piece of equipment. No sliding around on my desk, no tough to press buttons (except for the joystick button) and loads of functionality. That said... the documentation is lackluster at best. Does anyone know if it is possible to set up separate profiles for different characters or is it one setup per game? For example, I'd like to set g22 to cycle through targets on one character but something different for another.

You have 3 différente setting option With your G13. M1, M2 and M3... juste set different key binding to your M2 or even your M3 profile

The Razer sales rep at their Blizzcon booth said it was a couple months away from release.

I think I might have preferred it if it had only 9, larger buttons on the side - like a phone keypad. Maybe they'll have a "light" version or something in the future.

Again something we don't typically think about but phone keypads have 12 buttons. You're forgetting the 0, *, and # buttons. In fact I would guess that's probably why they went with 12 since it seems to emulate a phone pad.

Having switched from a Logitex MX Laser mouse to a Microsoft 7000 Laser I am wondering how to use the left/right tilt of the scroolwheel ingame.
With the Logitech I could assign a custom key in SetPoint and assign an ingame macro to it, but how would such be possible for the Microsoft 7000 mouse? The Microsoft Mouse application doesnt show a way to reasign what happens when you tilt the scrollwheel left/right.

Razer's website is now allowing pre-orders of their naga mouse, stating it will be shiped in 3-4 weeks.

Just realized this is now available, been following it's development for a while now.


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