This may have been asked in another post but i didnt read completely through all the pages so i apologize if this was already asked. Does anyone know if theres a keyboard i could set up where i could hold down a button and have it spam that function? Like for example if i wanted to spam the hell out of flash heal by just holding down a button would that be possible? I've heard there are keyboards that will do that but nobody seems to know what ones will. Anyone know of or perhaps use a keyboard that is capable of this? Any suggestions?
If you had indeed read the thread, you might have known that the macro-able G-Versions of Logitech Keyboards aswell as the n52 from Belkin can do that.
Thanks alot Koaschten.
Sorry for asking something that was already answered. I was in a bit of a rush to get out the door so didnt have time to read through the 6 pages to see. I appreciate the answer though.
I think im gunna get a Logitech G15 i've heard alot of good things about them and seems alot of people use them for every day gaming stuff
As a matter of curiosity, can anyone reccommend a really good desktop microphone? I use Audiotechnica ATH-A500's for gaming since I love the comfort and sound quality, but obviously these don't work too well with a clip-on mic like the zalman I tried, it ended up making me sound awful and I can't be muffled while I lead raids.
Input:
Nostromo N52 speed pad.
Microsoft 5 button trackball.
I tank and play a few FPS. Trackball is the only way to play, sure it's twitchy but you get used to it. I can't click tank, everything is bound to the n52 with stance dancing on the arrow pad. I can pretty much move and tank anything around me without a problem. I'm paranoid as hell either will break and I'm screwed trying to tank so I bought a spare of each and they sit there waiting just in case!
I use a bluetooth headset for Vent. 13hrs is plenty of time to talk on vent and it'll take an hr to recharge at max. If i'm on vent+wow for 13hrs I got bigger problems.
Right now, I use an N52 and a microsoft mouse with 7 buttons.
I used use a zboard, but decided to try the N52 when I went looking for ways to not always have to have my fingers on WASD. The N52 is excellent because all movement is via a thumb control.
I have recently purchased a G5 mouse from Logitech for extra buttons, and the new N52e which was released this month. Haven't tried either one yet - waiting on shipping.
I have been looking for a Logitech G15 keyboard, but it seems there is a "new" and "old" version - the "old" version looks cooler (blue keys) and has more macro keys, but the new version apparently has a better display and some other things - has anyone tried the "new" G15? (It has orange backlighting). Any suggestions on which to get?
I just bought an N52 today and I was wondering what kind of keybinds people use. I know people have posted theirs and say that they use the thumb for movement, etc, but I was wondering more generally what keys to bind them to so that I don't have to completely unbind my keys. The problem I have is that my laptop travels with me but my N52 probably won't, so I need my keyboard to still be useable while maximizing the potential I get from the N52.
I just bought an N52 today and I was wondering what kind of keybinds people use. I know people have posted theirs and say that they use the thumb for movement, etc, but I was wondering more generally what keys to bind them to so that I don't have to completely unbind my keys. The problem I have is that my laptop travels with me but my N52 probably won't, so I need my keyboard to still be useable while maximizing the potential I get from the N52.
When I used to use an N52, I had movement bound normally, and I used the directional pad for shift, alt, control and jump.
I've been reading this thread with great interest in the various keyboard replacing devices, specifically the Fang and the N52, but when I take a close look at the actual devices I find it hard to see any actual benefit. Like most people here I suspect I'm mostly just interested in these devices if they'd add more buttons in easy reach for use as hot keys, and it just doesn't seem like they offer any more than a standard keyboard. Does anyone actually using one or the other feel that they get more buttons or easier buttons or some such?
On the same general note, I was trying to understand the obsession with the various g11 and g15 keyboards. The extra buttons on the side they offer seem to be too far out of reach to be useful and the rest looks fairly normal, so is the benefit just from the macro software? I must confess I find it difficult to imagine a use for a macro in wow, but perhaps I'm just not thinking hard enough about it. What benefit do you feel you get from using the g15?
I just bought an N52 today and I was wondering what kind of keybinds people use. I know people have posted theirs and say that they use the thumb for movement, etc, but I was wondering more generally what keys to bind them to so that I don't have to completely unbind my keys. The problem I have is that my laptop travels with me but my N52 probably won't, so I need my keyboard to still be useable while maximizing the potential I get from the N52.
You can bind the d-pad of the N52 to the arrow keys, and make sure that they're bound to whatever movement you like. If you want keybinds to remain inextensible without the N52, just bind its keys to the left hand side of your keyboard, e.g. top row is "tab Q W E R".
I am addicted to my saitek Gamer's Keyboard and my MX1000 mouse. I have freakishly large hands, so the greater spacing on the keyboard makes typing a whole lot easier (I've become so used to it that I literally cannot type on most compact keyboards like laptop keyboards or apple keyboards), and the feel of the keys is so much better than any other keyboard I've ever used. I never bothered messing with the included keypad, but if I really wanted some programmable keys, I do have that option as well. My only gripe is that over the years, the keys have become pretty loud.
The MX1000 is also nice because again, I have freakishly large hands, so it is far more comfortable for long gaming sessions (I do have an MX518 that I use for FPSs and when I forget to recharge my main mouse and it runs out of batteries in the middle of a raid). Also, the huge amount of programmable buttons pretty much erases any need for a fancy input device, because I can just program anything not within easy reach of my left hand to a mouse button. If logitech came out with a wired version of this mouse, I would gladly pay over $100 for it.
and it just doesn't seem like they offer any more than a standard keyboard. Does anyone actually using one or the other feel that they get more buttons or easier buttons or some such?
The n52, if you use the thumb-pad for movement, offers some 43 keys and frees up 4 fingers to use them. That includes having more than one finger "homed" on a key that may be needed at a moment's notice.
There are other benefits, but that's the biggest one. You're moving, circle-strafing, and able to not only activate your abilities/macros at the same time, but you can activate FOUR at the same time if you need to. Simply by pressing down with your fingers. If you consider the big block of buttons on the n52, there's 4x3 (4 spare and mouswheel being ignored in this example) you'll see that each finger can find 3 buttons very quickly because you're not forced into reaching to do these things while also using your ESDF or WASD to move.
I get more buttons out of it via pagination from the actionbar mods as well. Currently 36 buttons under my left hand, but if I choose to add one more modifier (alt) then I get 48 buttons under my left hand. That's enough for my class plus a number of raiding macros to target spitfire totems, throw tainted cores, use-equip-use-loot a legendary netherstrand longbow, target a corrupted lightning totem, throw a naj'entus spine, cast spirit volley, cast spirit chains, cast spirit lance, etc.
I definitely get more buttons from it.
I definitely get better buttons from it.
I feel compelled to recommend binding the movement keys to the d-pad for everyone who's ever bought one. Just for a day or two, really, because it's one of the best ways to play this type of game.
I feel compelled to recommend binding the movement keys to the d-pad for everyone who's ever bought one. Just for a day or two, really, because it's one of the best ways to play this type of game.
Just had to quote this to make it stand out more, it takes a day or two to get used to it, but it works really good.
I have my DeathAdder and eXactMat mouse pad and I'm looking for a good corded keyboard I've been searching around and I've saw stuff like Logitech Wave and Seeltpad 6G(atm I have some Labtec wireless keyboard), anyway can anyone recomend me a good keyboard?
Ok, so I've been using the n52 for a few days and i have to say I love it! Thanks for all the informative posts which helped me decide to get it. I just have 1 more question about the n52: does anyone use the custom macros you can make on its software, and are they usefull? How much automation do they give you, and how careful do you have to be with that (I'm thinking about the people who were banned for over-automating with the g15 here)?
I use the D-pad for movement. I use the scrollwheel for "target next enemy/ target previous enemy" (This is amazingly useful as you can scroll to switch targets extremely quickly - one of my favourite controls, for both pve and pvp.)
I use the giant orange button for my mount/dismount/ghostwolf macro.
WTB ergonomic/split/"Natural"/whateveryouwanttocallit version of the G15 =/
Also, I realize the thread title says keyboards and mice, but I feel compelled to point out this headset while on the topic of peripherals, the plantronics cs50:
It's another pricey item but the sound quality is top notch and it has a 300 foot range so I can walk around untethethered even outside while "AFK" and still hear Ventrilo during raids. It has 8 hours of talk time which is more than enough for raiding but probably not enough for a full day pvp'ing but it charges fairly quickly. There's also a new version, the cs55, which has a couple more hours talk time. The noise cancelling mic tech is great too. I run game sound via normal speakers (and/or have tv/music cranked up) and it doesn't translate through when speaking.
How would you hook this up to the PC? I thought this was only used on phones in the home or business.
In its current form, the Nostromo N52 is meant used by your left hand, while your mouse would be held by your right hand- is there a "reversed" version of the nostromo? As a Lefty, I need my left hand for my mouse... and I just realized that i've been using the keyboard numpad + arrow keys *exactly* like a nostromo for two years now.
In its current form, the Nostromo N52 is meant used by your left hand, while your mouse would be held by your right hand- is there a "reversed" version of the nostromo? As a Lefty, I need my left hand for my mouse... and I just realized that i've been using the keyboard numpad + arrow keys *exactly* like a nostromo for two years now.
I think you'd be hardpressed to find a Right handed Nostromo (or a device like it).
Your best bet will probably be something like this.
Originally Posted by Zerchi
(you can google image search for "Ergodex" for more pics of layout examples)
Seeing as it's customisable (the buttons are stick on) it should be doable to create a layout for right handed use. I do believe it had driver issues with Windows Vista, but I am not sure it might be another Gamepad device that had driver issues.
12/10/07, 11:09 PM
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