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Old 12/18/07, 3:09 PM   #1
Gorbag
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Autobar Alternative (custom consumable bar)

I've been using Autobar since it was packaged in Tivoli's NurfedUI packages in mid-2005, so it's with a lot of reluctance that I say: Is there an alternative to this mod that is maintained and does everything it (Autobar) USED to do?

I don't need easy access to class specific spells in expandable bars. I don't need access to quest specific "on use" items showing up on my bars. I don't need access to my quest log on my consumable bar. And I definitely don't need a default setup which includes so many "new button type" options that the Ace/fubar menu literally scrolls off the top of my 19" laptop screen. Seriously, with the version that's been on wowace for the last month, I can't even create a new button option for Conjured Water because every custom pre-setup button supplied with the mod above the letter "F" has scrolled off the top of my screen to a point where its unclickable.

I'm looking for an a mod that will allow me to create a completely customizable bar like the old Autobar would. I don't want "canned" options that have already been setup for me and I can't edit without manually changing .lua code.

Just wondering if there's anyone else who was as frustrated as I am with the new and improved version of this old and once reliable mod that they've found a viable alternative to it.

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Old 12/18/07, 3:32 PM   #2
Noraj
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If you type
/autobar config
it will bring up the new Rock configuration screen for Autobar which is infinitely easier to use than the right-click menu. It doesn't solve the overhead problem of features that Autobar's continually swelling and bloating from right now, but it does fix the configuration usability issues you're running into.

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Old 12/18/07, 4:09 PM   #3
Gorbag
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Originally Posted by Noraj View Post
If you type
/autobar config
it will bring up the new Rock configuration screen for Autobar
I know about that command unfortunately. In fact, from what I've experienced, it now has even less customization options then the Fubar drop-down menu provides in terms of creating myself a brand new custom button and specifying what I want to go into it.

I really just want a mod where it presents me a blank bar, and allows me to pick the exact items I want to go in each slot, and what items will "expand" out of each individual button. In other words, place food and conjured water/food in the same button giving conjured water the priority with food items appearing above the conjured item.

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Old 12/18/07, 4:33 PM   #4
Karmen
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Think people have been asking for a while now for something like this but as far as I can the only other option is to just enable another action bar to use in the same vein as Autobar. It is interesting how a mod can slowly descend from being stable to unstable with each successive update. At least that's the case in my experience.

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Old 12/19/07, 12:24 AM   #5
Daxxiz
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I've been pondering the same question and saw PT3Bar linked on wowace.com. Its a *very* light weight autobar, all configured through text files.

PT3Bar - WowAce Wiki

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Old 12/19/07, 11:39 AM   #6
LucidityAxel
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I don't use the new Autobar. Toadkiller completely broke backwards compability with previous versions when he took it over, refused to fork his new project to a different name like Autobar2 so people wouldn't have their existing configs broken, etc. It really annoyed me.

Plenty of people seemed to like the new Autobar. I did not. My workaround was to revert back to the last pre-Toadkiller version:

http://files.wowace.com/AutoBar/AutoBar-r51227.7.zip

This version has been working just fine for since mid-October of '07, and I intend to keep using it until it eventually breaks.

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Old 12/19/07, 12:10 PM   #7
Decius
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The default version of Autobar is indeed far too much to be really useful. But you can very easily remove everything you don't need (spells, logs, quest items) with a simple click and end up with what the old Autobar was: A simple bar for easy access to potions and food. I find the rock-configuration quite easy to handle. Your screen-size problem shouldn't occur, there should be a scrollbar in the menu.

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Old 12/19/07, 12:12 PM   #8
Gorbag
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Originally Posted by LucidityAxel View Post
I don't use the new Autobar. Toadkiller completely broke backwards compability with previous versions when he took it over, refused to fork his new project to a different name like Autobar2 so people wouldn't have their existing configs broken, etc. It really annoyed me.

Plenty of people seemed to like the new Autobar. I did not. My workaround was to revert back to the last pre-Toadkiller version:

http://files.wowace.com/AutoBar/AutoBar-r51227.7.zip

This version has been working just fine for since mid-October of '07, and I intend to keep using it until it eventually breaks.
I actually did the same with mine and have been running the last pre-toad release as well (found a reference to it in that massive pile of crap Ace forum thread about the mod). I was actually looking for an alternative for when the old unsupported version of it finally breaks. PT3Bar that Daxxiz referenced looks promising, and I think a few guildies are going to sit down and see if we can't write a few config files that cover everything we'd need this weekend.

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Old 12/19/07, 7:18 PM   #9
Daxxiz
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Originally Posted by Gorbag View Post
I actually did the same with mine and have been running the last pre-toad release as well (found a reference to it in that massive pile of crap Ace forum thread about the mod). I was actually looking for an alternative for when the old unsupported version of it finally breaks. PT3Bar that Daxxiz referenced looks promising, and I think a few guildies are going to sit down and see if we can't write a few config files that cover everything we'd need this weekend.
If you could post them here those of us with less free time would appreciate it

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Old 12/20/07, 4:07 AM   #10
roquer
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I like autorack a lot. It uses the priorities you select, and places them in a predetermined bag space. This is especially nice if you have a macro to use any consumables. For example, the macro can simply be /use 0 1 /use 0 2. Then you use autorack to prioritise healthstones then nightmare seeds then crystal foci then fel blossoms, then place the preferred item in the bag slot you specify. Also, depending on whether I am using [Superior Healing Potion], [Red Ogre Brew], [Cenarion Healing Salve] or [Bottled Nethergon Vapor], you don't have to change the macro, just let autorack do the work instead.

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Old 12/20/07, 6:46 AM   #11
VuBce
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If you just want the food, healing potions etc. then you could try out BaudConsumables, it's really old but still works perfectly. Just place some food/healing pots/whatever on your bar and it will automatically change it with the best option available whenever it can. Because it's so old you will have to add the items you want it to replace in the lua manually or find one from someone else though (there should be one in this wowace thread).

The only thing it lacked for me were the bar popup windows, but I use klappa for that now.

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Old 12/20/07, 8:54 AM   #12
adlwow
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Originally Posted by Daxxiz View Post
I've been pondering the same question and saw PT3Bar linked on wowace.com. Its a *very* light weight autobar, all configured through text files.

PT3Bar - WowAce Wiki
I too got tired of the "everything but the kitchen sink" functionality of the new Autobar. I've been using PT3Bar for a couple weeks and it works great. I'm using it "out of the box" and it has buttons for food & drink (regular, not buff), bandages and health/mana pots. Oh, and soulstones. I want to figure out how to add categories/buttons because I'd at least like to add a mount button. It'd be great if people could share some config files.

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Old 12/21/07, 11:40 AM   #13
Gorbag
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I started messing around with PT3Bar on my own (using it in conjunction with PT3Browser makes it very easy to use). One thing I would recommend is making a custom config.lua file for your settings (mine is named gorConfig.lua) and then referencing it in the .toc file at the bottom instead of Config.lua. This way you'll easily be able to recover your settings in case you update and your files get wiped out.

Heres my first crack at a bar after about 1.5 hours of screwing around:


In the PT:AddData variable i have:

	["PT3BarCustom.Mounts"] = "m,Misc.Mount.Flying,Misc.Mount.Normal,Misc.Mount.Ahn'Qiraj",
	["PT3BarCustom.Goofing"] = "m,Misc.Minipet.Normal",
	["PT3BarCustom.MostWater"] = "m,Consumable.Water.Basic,Consumable.Food.Combo Mana,Consumable.Water.Conjured",
	["PT3BarCustom.HealthStuff"] = "m,Consumable.Potion.Recovery.Healing,Consumable.Cooldown.Stone.Health.Warlock",
	["PT3BarCustom.BuffingPotions"] = "m,Consumable.Buff.Healing.Self,Consumable.Buff.Regen Mana.Self",
	["PT3BarCustom.MiscRecovery"] = "m,Consumable.Potion.Recovery.Dreamless Sleep,Consumable.Potion.Recovery.Rejuvenation",
and the below text goes in the PT3Bar:InputSets variable:

	"PT3BarCustom.Mounts",
	"Consumable.Bandage.Basic",
	"PT3BarCustom.HealthStuff",
	"Consumable.Potion.Recovery.Mana",
	"Consumable.Leatherworking.Drums",
	"PT3BarCustom.BuffingPotions",
	"PT3BarCustom.MostWater",
	"PT3BarCustom.MiscRecovery",
	"PT3BarCustom.Goofing",
	"Consumable.Food.Edible.Basic",
It really didn't take very long at all to setup when using PT3Browser (plus I was able to dump atlasloot in the bargain). So I think anyone who wanted to put together a grouping for melee/tanks/offensive casters could easily do so in a few minutes.


Originally Posted by adlwow View Post
I want to figure out how to add categories/buttons because I'd at least like to add a mount button. It'd be great if people could share some config files.
The above buttons for mounts work great

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Old 12/21/07, 12:55 PM   #14
shabee
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I really miss binding hotkeys to autobar buttons functionality of the old autobar.

Can not seem to do it for the new "autobar2".

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Old 12/21/07, 6:42 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by shabee View Post
I really miss binding hotkeys to autobar buttons functionality of the old autobar.

Can not seem to do it for the new "autobar2".
PT3Bar allows for keybinding in Config.lua, I only have three buttons for emergency stuff during raids, food etc I don't mind going to my bag for but I'll post my config because it might save some others typing out my mana potion list.
PT:AddData("PT3BarCustom", {
	["PT3BarCustom.ManaPot"] = "32902:10,32903:9,33935:8,32948:7,22832:6,28101:5",
})
The mana potions are ordered by TK pots, Coilfang pots, Ogri'la use-anywhere pots, Auchenai Pots, Super Mana and lastly Unstable. I just make sure I don't take TK pots to SSC or the other way around and it works nicely.

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