Natur Enemy Cast Bar replacement?

Celandro · 01/15/08, 2:58 PM

According to the download page on curse, NECB will stop working next patch:
Natur EnemyCastBar | World of Warcraft @ Curse.com

What addons are available to replace this? It was the best addon I had for both tracking PVP abilities and keeping up sunder armor/tclap/demo shout reliably.

captf · 01/15/08, 3:24 PM

I'm hoping there's someone around that'll be able to carry on with NECB and fix it to work when 2.4 comes out.
I've tried a bunch of addons and none match it.

An Ace or Rock version of this would make my day - with it also being available on the WAU of course

Aoife · 01/15/08, 3:30 PM

WoWInterface Downloads : Natur EnemyCastBar

Baalzaman · 01/15/08, 4:54 PM

From the comments in that curse thread, Natur refers to a possible ACE version from Funkydude. Imagine we won't see anything concrete until there is a actual 2.4 PTR to test stuff out on however.

Cyn · 01/15/08, 5:10 PM

Antagonist. - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Antagonist

Covers the essential features of NECB except for DR timers.

Wara · 01/15/08, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by Cyn

Antagonist. - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Antagonist

Covers the essential features of NECB except for DR timers.

I don't know if I don't have it set up correctly, but Antagonist basically forgets about everyone as soon as I de-select them. It also doesn't appear to track duration of things like my partners Sap. Am I using it incorrectly, or is it truly not a replacement for NECB?

Cyn · 01/15/08, 5:29 PM

Originally Posted by Wara

I don't know if I don't have it set up correctly, but Antagonist basically forgets about everyone as soon as I de-select them. It also doesn't appear to track duration of things like my partners Sap. Am I using it incorrectly, or is it truly not a replacement for NECB?

There is an option that tracks target only in each of the cast/buff/cooldown sections, you'll need to turn that off.

captf · 01/15/08, 6:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cyn

Antagonist. - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Antagonist

Covers the essential features of NECB except for DR timers.

it also doesn't give respawn timers for instances.

Karmen · 01/15/08, 6:47 PM

NECB has a lot of issues in my opinion. HoT's will sometimes not continue to track when you deselect the person with the HoT on them even when you have that option selected. HoT's will also refresh when another person throw's the same type of HoT on a target. I also have turned off the tracking of others debuffs yet I still get warning for scorch stacks and misery even though I'm a feral druid!

I found Antagonist to be even worse though so what I've had to do is use 3 mods to cover all my needs which is just lame. HoTCandy for tracking all HoT's used. Classtimers for tracking my debuffs on targets when dpsing. NECB for tracking DR's and other PVP related items.

Hopefully the 2.4 changes allow for a new mod to be made which does a better job in making customizable and reliable timer bars easier to manage.

LittleHamster · 01/16/08, 6:17 AM

Originally Posted by Celandro

According to the download page on curse, NECB will stop working next patch:
Natur EnemyCastBar | World of Warcraft @ Curse.com

What addons are available to replace this? It was the best addon I had for both tracking PVP abilities and keeping up sunder armor/tclap/demo shout reliably.

I mostly use it to track thunderclap and demo shout debuffs on bosses. The raid instance respawn timer is handy too. If there's an alternative from ace that'll do these two things, I'd be happy. So far, I haven't found it.

Tauftamir · 01/16/08, 6:32 AM

Originally Posted by LittleHamster

I mostly use it to track thunderclap and demo shout debuffs on bosses. The raid instance respawn timer is handy too. If there's an alternative from ace that'll do these two things, I'd be happy. So far, I haven't found it.

ClassTimer will handle this perfectly fine for you if you want a Bar for debuff duration.
DebuffFilter is also an excellent addon for this purpose if you don't mind using an addon which isn't on the WoWAce SVN.

Yero · 01/16/08, 6:34 AM

Originally Posted by captf

it also doesn't give respawn timers for instances.

Use Incubator for this. Personally i think you normally dont need both active. Incubator is for PvE and Antagonist for PvP.

captf · 01/16/08, 8:42 AM

Originally Posted by Yero

Use Incubator for this. Personally i think you normally dont need both active. Incubator is for PvE and Antagonist for PvP.

You know, I'd actually noticed Incubator, but it didn't click for me that that was what it was for.

However, I'm not too sure about the "Incubator is for PvE and Antagonist for PvP." part, since they perform completely different roles.

Thinking, I may re-evaluate what I actually use NECB for - I mean, I rarely use it for spells being cast [Witch hunt for announcing, and cast bars on unit frames to see how long], although they are a little handy for untargeted mobs/players
I suppose my main use is keeping track of crowd control and dots on targets [and cooldowns on DRs], and I could just look for another mod that handles that.

Wingalock · 01/16/08, 4:47 PM

All I ever really use NECB is to track pally's bubble and mage's iceblock in PvP, the rest I use Incubator, and DoTimers

Shadowed · 01/16/08, 6:05 PM

Originally Posted by Wingalock

All I ever really use NECB is to track pally's bubble and mage's iceblock in PvP, the rest I use Incubator, and DoTimers

If all you care about are a few simple timers, then something like WoWInterface Downloads : Afflicted is going to be better suited for it then NECB given that tracks basically everything known to man.